Why Arsenal dropped two points at Wigan

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Date	Time	C	Opponent	F	A	R	S
09 Mar	4:00 PM	P	Wigan Athletic (A)	0	0	Draw

Of course the headlines will reflect the result of the game. Had Adebayor scored after 30seconds; had van Persie nicked one, the papers would be talking about "resilient" Arsenal.

My own view is that Arsenal are two points clear. Manchester United have a game in hand but a game in hand is not 3 points. This season has also taught us not to count any points until they are won. Yesterday, Arsenal won a point and made it 2 points on top.

Arsenal are top of the table because the defensive unit is good and the midfield unit is good. Our attack has been irrelevant to our season. It's not to say attackers are not scoring or not contributing, but it's not their contribution that is responsible for where we are. With Manchester United, van der Saar can pass to Ronaldo, who can find Tevez to Rooney and goal! Arsenal cannot do the same, the midfield has to be involved to make a success of anything we do.

It is also the case that we don't have a match-winner. Theo Walcott is the closest thing we have to a match winner. So our position is down to our defensive unit and out midfield unit (Alexander Hleb, Francesc Fabregas and Mathieu Flamini).

In Wigan, Wenger broke up the midfield unit by putting Fabregas wide and Gilberto in the middle. That made them completely ineffective. It was so telling how much of a mistake that was because when Kolo came in for Gilberto and went wide with Fabregas resuming his normal position, Arsenal played much better without even using Kolo. Basically Arsenal played better with "ten men" than they did with "eleven men" because the midfield unit was restored as normal.

It is then clear why we dropped two points at Wigan.

First, Gilberto (he's still a good player) split the key Arsenal trio making them ineffective. As long as they were ineffective, the attack was always going to be rubbish.

Second, the pitch destroyed Arsenal. Manchester United can play one long pass and three short passes to score. Arsenal play eighteen short passes to score. They are therefore so much more vulnerable to bad pitches. Chelsea lost to Barnsley with the pitch as a contributing factor. With Ballack, Essien, Lampard and Anelka instead of Drogba, Grant is making Chelsea into a short-passing team like Arsenal and they paid for it.

In addition, Hleb's game is based on losing people in tight spaces. He turns quickly on the spot, with very flexible hips and he's gone. On a bad pitch, Hleb just sank into the soil and could not turn quickly. I really felt sorry for him because there was nothing he could do to get better other than being someone else. Milan would be wondering why they re-laid their pitch before meeting Arsenal.

But there was good news!

Bendtner and Adebayor looked like they are on speaking terms. Maybe a little too late since van Persie is back.

And the best news is that van Persie is back. It is difficult to know how much we missed him because he has not really had a "bang bang" season so far. But he looked very good, very dangerous and most importantly, he will shoot even when he should pass. It's good to have one player that will do that. If you have three it's too much. One is definitely necessary.

van Persie really looked a threat and could have scored if he was sharper and if he had come on at half time. Many fans saw Arsenal problems before half time and I wish Wenger had substituted earlier. Anyway, I look forward with hope that van Persie will be a match winner for Arsenal in the run-in.

So we are two points clear with van Persie back. It could be much worse, we could be where Chelsea or Liverpool are. We have to see how Chelsea and Manchester United get on before we play each other. I am not about to start giving up.

User Comments

MASIKA HOPE SYLVIA

Posted on 26 Mar, 2008 at 12:43 PM - Reply

I believe that in the match between Arsenal and Chelsea,arsenal tried its best though there was a problem with the striker,other wise the mid field and defense did their best to the extent that Sagna scored,its not surprising that Arsenal consided goals after his substitution but all the same there is still hope if Van persie becomes more focussed.

fat. al

Posted on 12 Mar, 2008 at 07:44 PM - Reply

is that the same titus bramble as the wigan geezer

Alfred

Posted on 12 Mar, 2008 at 08:44 AM - Reply

We don't have a good bench that is why gilberto was on the field. Wenger shd buy n stop the kid policy we'll win nothin this season

hlebsitaa

Posted on 12 Mar, 2008 at 07:00 AM - Reply

Lost two points, but that does not mean defeat, if shortened the advantage, but you have to trust the equipment and that with the arrival of Van Persie will be much stronger attack ...

I support until the end ...

Go Go Arsenal

Titus

Posted on 12 Mar, 2008 at 06:29 AM - Reply

Its wonderful to see how the Arsenal fans are boosting their support for their team;but the fact of the matter is that they will stay trophy-less for the fifth season in a row not remembering the F.A cup win of 2005.Arsenal should learn how to play a fantastic but winning game,and not their so-called sexy but with no results kind of game.

Titus

Posted on 12 Mar, 2008 at 06:26 AM - Reply

Its wonderful to see how the Arsenal fans are boosting their support for their team;but the fact of the matter is that they will stay trophy-less for the fifth season in a row not remembering the F.A cup win of 2005.Arsenal should learn how to play a fantastic but winning game,and not their so-called sexy but with no results kind of game.

Robin

Posted on 11 Mar, 2008 at 11:05 PM - Reply

Barcelona definitely

FAT.AL

Posted on 11 Mar, 2008 at 10:35 PM - Reply

anyone got any preference to who they would like to face in the c league draw on friday.

casicky

Posted on 11 Mar, 2008 at 09:26 PM - Reply

its fine Eboue is our second choice RB but if Hleb and Rosicky were fit he would have played less games and turned into Diarra,i sriously dont feel his future lies with us esp if he fails to be better on that wing.as for Gilberto i cant wait for the season to end and we can bid him farewell i hope it will be during a trophy procession,besides that i feel Wenger sees sumn in these plyers i stopt seeing long time ago

casicky

Posted on 11 Mar, 2008 at 09:23 PM - Reply

we have to be truthful to ourselves first and foremost if we dont win the league its coz of our own doing,not some pitch or referee that doesnt protect us,if we score a genuine goal neither of those two can take it away,so in turn if manUre end up ahead of us then thats that they were better and if they win that game in hand and go top they are better,jus coz we play brilliant footie doesnt mean we merit the premiership.i feel Wenger either mis-calculetd or has jus been shocked by this teams progress hence his faced with all these difficult decisions.Gilberto and Eboue do not impress me at all anymore the do the basics we expect well but anything else they fail.

cesc

Posted on 11 Mar, 2008 at 08:46 PM - Reply

hi joel
having watched the wigan sluggers v arsenal match on sunday, i was appalled at some of the tackles. the first one was the stamp by brown into flamini's groin area when he was lying on the floor.missed by ref.
the second was the shoulder high studs first challenge on bendtner. missed by ref.
bendtner got a yellow card for a very legitimate fair tackle because the wigan player simulated injury.
is there anyway you could relay these incidents to fifa to show sepp blatter what we have to put up with week in and week out.
good luck.

ibiz

Posted on 11 Mar, 2008 at 08:16 PM - Reply

i agree gilberto cn not play 4 us anymore he's 2 old and 2 slow 2 do anyfing,we should just sell him and quaresma and aguero

danny bitch

Posted on 11 Mar, 2008 at 07:27 PM - Reply

i KNOW HU DAN IS, HE IS A FUKING UNITED FAN, GET OFF OUR SITE TRAITOR

danny bitch

Posted on 11 Mar, 2008 at 06:54 PM - Reply

i KNOW HU DAN IS, HE IS A FUKING UNITED FAN, GET OFF OUR SITE TRAITOR

Robin

Posted on 11 Mar, 2008 at 06:18 PM - Reply

So your saying that the arsenal players r a bunch of quitters?

kalange adam

Posted on 11 Mar, 2008 at 06:07 PM - Reply

once again i dont mean to demoralise the gunners but even liverpool might finish ahead of us after such a disappointing start they had.the point is they have players who never give up in the likes of gerrard, torres,callager,kuyt,macherano even crouch.but with us after toure and flamini who else?

kalange adam

Posted on 11 Mar, 2008 at 06:00 PM - Reply

for sure at least for once in a season, i had started to believe that we can finally win the title after four years, but it seems like we have got to wait more.to me the problem has been lack of strength in depth, the injuries, and the failure to maximise points from weaker oppositions like wigan, birmingham, middlesboro, and we might as well lose to the likes of sunderland, bolton everton.....

Robin

Posted on 11 Mar, 2008 at 05:47 PM - Reply

You cant drop adebayor, it cuts out so many options. RVP is not a centre forward, he is usually in support, so we would lose the target man. PS Dan, i can see either van persie or fabregas scoring, and possibly a defender from a set piece.

David

Posted on 11 Mar, 2008 at 04:22 PM - Reply

Gilberto is much of a burden these days as he is no longer in the game. Actually I never liked him simply because he doesn't suit our passing game. Flamini is now more reliable as Defensive Midfielder. I am sure when Rosicky is back, we could have Rosicky and Eboue on the flanks, Flamini Fabregas in the middle and V Persie up front with Hleb supporting him. Ade and Bendtner as subs for more attacking options, and Walcott Diaby as midfield backups. Also, guys like Hleb and eboue should really learn to shoot more and shoot accurately. By doing so we would be in a better winning position. I am confident that we will beat the other big three in the coming games and clinch the title by late April.

Baz the Gooner

Posted on 11 Mar, 2008 at 04:03 PM - Reply

The state of pitches DOES matter at Premiership level!Remember - Wigan share the ground with the rugby team. I want both the Premiership and the FA to assess these pitches regularly and reject those that are below professional quality. Any club unable to maintain the pitch at such standard should have points deducted.

Panther

Posted on 11 Mar, 2008 at 02:59 PM - Reply

When the final whistle blew on Sunday, it ushered in St Totteringham’s Day 2008.

Pherain

Posted on 11 Mar, 2008 at 02:14 PM - Reply

Look guys .... im a gooner and respect you all but it just sounds to me like you all are making excuses.
Shure the pitch was pitiful and played a part in the draw but we shouldnt make comparisions to the manc's.
All in all the boys had a tough game and wingan played well.
Happy RVP is back
We gonna take the title .... keep faith
GO GOONERS!!!!!!!

gooner

Posted on 11 Mar, 2008 at 01:44 PM - Reply

frustarating, looked like the arsenal of last season but the pitch played a part, adebayor isnt in form at the minute and perhaps bendtner should have stayed on when wenger brought van persie on and played all three up front:- van persie, adebayor and bendtner! also, look at the injuries we have at the moment, eduardo out, toure out, djourou out, rosicky out, diaby out, walcott out, van persie just coming back, song just coming back

matt

Posted on 11 Mar, 2008 at 01:41 PM - Reply

frustrating, looked like the arsenal of last season but the pitch played a part, adebayor aint in part at the minute and perhaps bendtner shud hav stayed on wen he brought van persie and had three strikers to try and claim all three points

f15faisal

Posted on 11 Mar, 2008 at 01:11 PM - Reply

I think arsenal need a one player has a good finishing ... Adebayor is good but not 4 all ... He lost a many chance ... also player have to shoot from far to make a another way to aim .

Ebba_WonderFabregas4

Posted on 11 Mar, 2008 at 12:46 PM - Reply

We lost 6 straight points in the absence of Edwardo,and the big news is Van Persie's back to keep the position followed by Rosicky can keep us to the top title and eventually to win the title.

Terri

Posted on 11 Mar, 2008 at 10:46 AM - Reply

For christsake why don't you all stop whinging and whineing. Did you hear Chelsea supporters moaning when they had to wait about 50 years for the title. Do you hear Liverpool supporters moaning because they have not won the title for about 30 years
The answer is NO because they are TRUE supporters
If we don't win the title so what, no one died
They tried there best as we all do in life. Don't any of you fail at things in life!!
Support your team whatever if you are a TRUE GOONER

simon

Posted on 11 Mar, 2008 at 10:41 AM - Reply

problem was no natural wide men, our best performances have been with eboue and Ridiski wide with Heleb in a free role, Bentner or Adeboyer not both.

Oyelakin

Posted on 11 Mar, 2008 at 09:34 AM - Reply

good article but to say our attack is irrelevant is too harsh on the likes of adebayor.

gemechis

Posted on 11 Mar, 2008 at 09:15 AM - Reply

I think AW should see back at its substitition for Bendtner. He was better than Adebayor. AW must start thinking that Adebayor is not hthe only player. He should be substitituted when has to be and stop believing always in chances. First of all Adebayor is not a player that deserves to be the gooners' top priority. That happened only becausew of AW's unnecessarily economic than match and trophy oriented atitude. At Wigan Adebayor shouldn't have been on th pitch after the 1st 45. Bendtner could have made good moves with van persie

gemechis

Posted on 11 Mar, 2008 at 09:15 AM - Reply

I think AW should see back at its substitition for Bendtner. He was better than Adebayor. AW must start thinking that Adebayor is not hthe only player. He should be substitituted when has to be and stop believing always in chances. First of all Adebayor is not a player that deserves to be the gooners' top priority. That happened only becausew of AW's unnecessarily economic than match and trophy oriented atitude. At Wigan Adebayor shouldn't have been on th pitch after the 1st 45. Bendtner could have made good moves with van persie

Jay Patel

Posted on 11 Mar, 2008 at 08:03 AM - Reply

he shouldn't spend his 70 million on young players, he should buy some world class attacking players. because these are the sort of people we need, Liverpool, man utd and Chelsea all have got more than 1 world class players.

Michael Tollins - California

Posted on 11 Mar, 2008 at 06:48 AM - Reply

I agree, a very good assessment of the situation at Wigan and, sadly, two valuable points dropped. Let us get it right against Middlesborough at home please.

Alister

Posted on 11 Mar, 2008 at 06:21 AM - Reply

Yeah having two defensive in the middle really stuffed up the balance fabregas should always be played in the middle.

Wandera charles in uganda

Posted on 11 Mar, 2008 at 06:08 AM - Reply

Absolutely!Wenger caused it.Gilberto is a menance!Even his body language talks.He gives blind passes,doesnt fight,i mean Gilberto is so pathetic.He's no longer a true gunner.Lets offload him.I preffer Denilson!

Windy

Posted on 11 Mar, 2008 at 05:44 AM - Reply

If we keep on playing like, there's no wonder why MU is the champion again. That's so bad guys.

Pavi

Posted on 11 Mar, 2008 at 03:29 AM - Reply

Bollocks. you should see the number of long passes arsenal played to adebayor yday. And compare that to the number of high balls manutd play to their strikers. Pitch was pathetic but they shud have taken their chances..

49arsenal

Posted on 11 Mar, 2008 at 03:05 AM - Reply

i am not sure if we will win premier leaure hopefully we do because we deserve it. we just have to wait and see. 4 years could be even much longet is we dont win this year

49Arsenal

Posted on 11 Mar, 2008 at 03:02 AM - Reply

i did not say we will win all games but i rather win 2 lose 1 = 6pts rather then 3draws=3 points

49Arsenal

Posted on 11 Mar, 2008 at 03:02 AM - Reply

i did not say we will win all games but i rather win 2 lose 1 = 6pts rather then 3draws=3 points

Pavi

Posted on 11 Mar, 2008 at 02:58 AM - Reply

Bollocks. you should see the number of long passes arsenal played to adebayor yday. And compare that to the number of high balls manutd play to their strikers. Pitch was pathetic but they shud have taken their chances..

49Arsenal

Posted on 11 Mar, 2008 at 02:57 AM - Reply

Arsenal FC need to do this to improve and win Premier league and prepare nex year-

1) improve finishing-adabour, fabregas, helb (be more inventive when finishing instad of shooting straight( chip, go around keeper(like torres), curl around keeper(henry), shoot into the corners eairly not when its on touch line. if they do this they will be top scorers easily and win a lot of games.

we have 10 chances and score none/ man utd 4 chances- 3 goals thats the differnece

2)pass less- still play passing game but clever ones (when they ar needed) rather then extra ones just to make it look good. like 5 passes rather then 20. whats the point you are going to loose the ball if team just defend

3) buy proper wingers nex season -not VERy expensive - Requardo qurasma, even rubury (20m its worth it) REMEMBER Carlos vela(Osusana loan)

4)buy some central defenders- good ones to replace toure in africa nations- wanted Micka richards but he increased contract.
5)use veriation-
pass though defance- if it does not work don;t keep on doing it -AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH do this>>>>>>>>
Long pass-header/shoot
goalkeeper long ball- pass-pass- shoot
Cross header/shoot
run with ball then shoot

6)Attitude- try aginst small teams beacuse it shows we are aggrant. carling cup Arrogant 5-1. manu arrogant 4-0 .see how when we actually try we can beat millan.

i am not saying get of ade but, i think gilbeto and eboue and bentner do not have the right way of thinking so shoud be sold. (£15m) use it to buy proper players.

I know its critical but what is so hard about what i mentioned. it will cost about 20m but what are u ment do with money just keep it. use is sensiably. its not going to make us poor.

think about it man utd have a youns squad as well as us see anderson - 19 nani- 21 rooney-22, ronaldo 23- tevaz-24 and they could get KAKA

i think we have to stop developing eveyone- buy some good ones develop some so( not pouch off bercalona) = Best team

49Arsenal

Posted on 11 Mar, 2008 at 02:57 AM - Reply

Arsenal FC need to do this to improve and win Premier league and prepare nex year-

1) improve finishing-adabour, fabregas, helb (be more inventive when finishing instad of shooting straight( chip, go around keeper(like torres), curl around keeper(henry), shoot into the corners eairly not when its on touch line. if they do this they will be top scorers easily and win a lot of games.

we have 10 chances and score none/ man utd 4 chances- 3 goals thats the differnece

2)pass less- still play passing game but clever ones (when they ar needed) rather then extra ones just to make it look good. like 5 passes rather then 20. whats the point you are going to loose the ball if team just defend

3) buy proper wingers nex season -not VERy expensive - Requardo qurasma, even rubury (20m its worth it) REMEMBER Carlos vela(Osusana loan)

4)buy some central defenders- good ones to replace toure in africa nations- wanted Micka richards but he increased contract.
5)use veriation-
pass though defance- if it does not work don;t keep on doing it -AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH do this>>>>>>>>
Long pass-header/shoot
goalkeeper long ball- pass-pass- shoot
Cross header/shoot
run with ball then shoot

6)Attitude- try aginst small teams beacuse it shows we are aggrant. carling cup Arrogant 5-1. manu arrogant 4-0 .see how when we actually try we can beat millan.

i am not saying get of ade but, i think gilbeto and eboue and bentner do not have the right way of thinking so shoud be sold. (£15m) use it to buy proper players.

I know its critical but what is so hard about what i mentioned. it will cost about 20m but what are u ment do with money just keep it. use is sensiably. its not going to make us poor.

think about it man utd have a youns squad as well as us see anderson - 19 nani- 21 rooney-22, ronaldo 23- tevaz-24 and they could get KAKA

i think we have to stop developing eveyone- buy some good ones develop some so( not pouch off bercalona) = Best team

49Arsenal

Posted on 11 Mar, 2008 at 02:53 AM - Reply

Arsenal FC need to do this to improve and win Premier league and prepare nex year-

1) improve finishing-adabour, fabregas, helb (be more inventive when finishing instad of shooting straight( chip, go around keeper(like torres), curl around keeper(henry), shoot into the corners eairly not when its on touch line. if they do this they will be top scorers easily and win a lot of games.

we have 10 chances and score none/ man utd 4 chances- 3 goals thats the differnece

2)pass less- still play passing game but clever ones (when they ar needed) rather then extra ones just to make it look good. like 5 passes rather then 20. whats the point you are going to loose the ball if team just defend

3) buy proper wingers nex season -not VERy expensive - Requardo qurasma, even rubury (20m its worth it) REMEMBER Carlos vela(Osusana loan)

4)buy some central defenders- good ones to replace toure in africa nations- wanted Micka richards but he increased contract.
5)use veriation-
pass though defance- if it does not work don;t keep on doing it -AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH do this>>>>>>>>
Long pass-header/shoot
goalkeeper long ball- pass-pass- shoot
Cross header/shoot
run with ball then shoot

6)Attitude- try aginst small teams beacuse it shows we are aggrant. carling cup Arrogant 5-1. manu arrogant 4-0 .see how when we actually try we can beat millan.

i am not saying get of ade but, i think gilbeto and eboue and bentner do not have the right way of thinking so shoud be sold. (£15m) use it to buy proper players.

I know its critical but what is so hard about what i mentioned. it will cost about 20m but what are u ment do with money just keep it. use is sensiably. its not going to make us poor.

think about it man utd have a youns squad as well as us see anderson - 19 nani- 21 rooney-22, ronaldo 23- tevaz-24 and they could get KAKA

i think we have to stop developing eveyone- buy some good ones develop some so( not pouch off bercalona) = Best team

gunner 49

Posted on 11 Mar, 2008 at 02:14 AM - Reply

arsenal are so inconsistant . they can beat milan becauase it was setup for us. does wenger train players finishing because its rubbish. if our finishing if better we wiould 10ponts clear

Nickolas

Posted on 11 Mar, 2008 at 02:07 AM - Reply

Give up now will mean their pass efforts will be wasted. As an Arsenal fan, i refuse to do so!

gunner 49

Posted on 11 Mar, 2008 at 01:41 AM - Reply

arsenal are so inconsistant . they can beat milan becauase it was setup for us. does wenger train players finishing because its rubbish. if our finishing if better we wiould 10ponts clear

casicky

Posted on 11 Mar, 2008 at 01:25 AM - Reply

off to bed its dry here now

We Gunner Gunn Em...

casicky

Posted on 11 Mar, 2008 at 01:24 AM - Reply

we can score goals,that squad can score goals,9 games left and we the second highest scorers the season is nearly over its the last stretch and i feel we have enuf in our ARSENAL if we somehow avoid injuries(hahaha)van P,Ade,Bendtner,Theo(1 or 2),Cesc,Rosicky n even Flamini on any given day they can notch up goals and i believe they will.the top4 fear us jus as much as anyone else becoz we are capable of beating them this cud be the best season end or the worst capitulation but i prefer the former

casicky

Posted on 11 Mar, 2008 at 01:15 AM - Reply

wish that squad knew how dissappointed we are,sumtimes i believe mos of them jus dont get that if you are up there you might as well give your all not jus expect that we will be better next season,grasp the opportunity there and then thats why Gallas was so down he understands that when you are on top you dont let it slip you might not be back there for a long while.
i wamt to win sumn this season um tired of pple going on bout how yung our squad is and experience will be great for us,we are in the thick of it at the moment so lets fight till the end

Steve

Posted on 11 Mar, 2008 at 01:12 AM - Reply

I think this is an insightful analysis. Arsenal must win these matches if they hope to win the league. We can't be giving away points to Wigan. What's worse: if this article is correct, it's Wenger who lost this match. The one point I would dispute is the claim that our front line is irrelevant. Van Persie is a talent but prone to injury, Adebayor has had a great year but is always inconsistent in his finishing (which isn't good enough), Cesc's scoring has cooled (as it was bound to do), so one must ask where our goals will come from. The mid-field and defence can keep us in the match but they aren't going to consistently win matches.

Big M

Posted on 11 Mar, 2008 at 01:07 AM - Reply

Wigan's pitch was their 12th man...

Ejiro

Posted on 11 Mar, 2008 at 12:49 AM - Reply

Am one of d few people that can say that even when adebayor was on form,i never had confidence in him.19goals a season is an absolute shame when you consider the number of chances he gets.torres has played 32matches nd has scored 25 goals.he has more goals than adebayor,has played less matches nd hsnt scored a penalty all season,compared to adebayor's 2or3. So please lets nt shout 19goals.thats very average relative to d chances he gets.2ndly he's nt intelligent,his failure to lob kirkland proves that nd in a counterattack he almst nevr picks out d right pass.thirdly his short r almst alwys inacurate.finally(saved ths for d last cs its without doubt d worst part of his game),his control nd touches r shockinly abyssmal.thy simd to improve against milan bt thy'r bac to their same old poor state.so please lets stop hailin him as the best or one of d best cs he's not

Ejiro

Posted on 11 Mar, 2008 at 12:49 AM - Reply

Am one of d few people that can say that even when adebayor was on form,i never had confidence in him.19goals a season is an absolute shame when you consider the number of chances he gets.torres has played 32matches nd has scored 25 goals.he has more goals than adebayor,has played less matches nd hsnt scored a penalty all season,compared to adebayor's 2or3. So please lets nt shout 19goals.thats very average relative to d chances he gets.2ndly he's nt intelligent,his failure to lob kirkland proves that nd in a counterattack he almst nevr picks out d right pass.thirdly his short r almst alwys inacurate.finally(saved ths for d last cs its without doubt d worst part of his game),his control nd touches r shockinly abyssmal.thy simd to improve against milan bt thy'r bac to their same old poor state.so please lets stop hailin him as the best or one of d best cs he's not

Ejiro

Posted on 11 Mar, 2008 at 12:49 AM - Reply

Am one of d few people that can say that even when adebayor was on form,i never had confidence in him.19goals a season is an absolute shame when you consider the number of chances he gets.torres has played 32matches nd has scored 25 goals.he has more goals than adebayor,has played less matches nd hsnt scored a penalty all season,compared to adebayor's 2or3. So please lets nt shout 19goals.thats very average relative to d chances he gets.2ndly he's nt intelligent,his failure to lob kirkland proves that nd in a counterattack he almst nevr picks out d right pass.thirdly his short r almst alwys inacurate.finally(saved ths for d last cs its without doubt d worst part of his game),his control nd touches r shockinly abyssmal.thy simd to improve against milan bt thy'r bac to their same old poor state.so please lets stop hailin him as the best or one of d best cs he's not

john quinn

Posted on 11 Mar, 2008 at 12:14 AM - Reply

you are assuming utd and chelsea are not really going to drop points however utd have tricky games ahead too after derby they play bolton liverpool a villa and boro before arsenal they never play well at boro ............. CHELSEA are a bigger threat after derby they play sunderland spurs arsenal boro and man city ... if we beat them and spurs take a draw of them thats it we have done it .. are you convinced ?

Hey Fuss

Posted on 11 Mar, 2008 at 12:08 AM - Reply

robin is king of arsenal
he will be great player in epl and orange country

Hey Fuss

Posted on 11 Mar, 2008 at 12:05 AM - Reply

robin is king of arsenal
he will be great player in epl and orange country

Aussie Fan

Posted on 11 Mar, 2008 at 12:04 AM - Reply

Having RVP Back for the run in, is like having a complete new player in the squad trying to impress!! He is the Match Winner no questions about it!! He makes a better partner for both Ade & Bendtner!! He has vision, precise passing and lethal right and left foot. Clinical and technically the best player on our Books!! Hope he can have a stellar final 3rd of the year and help bring us both trophies!! to the empty cabinets of the Grove!

Hey Fuss

Posted on 11 Mar, 2008 at 12:02 AM - Reply

robin is king of arsenal
he will be great player in epl and orange country

Hey Fuss

Posted on 11 Mar, 2008 at 12:02 AM - Reply

robin is king of arsenal
he will be great player in epl and orange country

DAN

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 11:37 PM - Reply

beat boro,draw or lose with cfc,draw or beat bolton,beat Lfc lose man U BY THAN IT WILL BE OVER IM AFRAID.

john quinn

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 11:31 PM - Reply

DAN tell me how you think the remaining fixtures will pan out .ihave said earlier i think we will beat chelsea what do you relly think

Dan

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 11:07 PM - Reply

flamini all day

john quinn

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 11:03 PM - Reply

who has been our player of the season so far? anyone like to comment?

DAN

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 10:55 PM - Reply

femi i totally agree with you if you look futher down the comments i have been givin back you know i agree wid you

john quinn

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 10:54 PM - Reply

SCORE ON SATURDAY 1-0 WIN

Dan

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 10:52 PM - Reply

i did not think you could comment like this, i thought you have to be a member.i wrote what i was feeling about the team and just carryed on. i think this is good aswell chating with fellow gooners rather than all the other idiots geeting you down with there comments.robin who do you think will score for us

Femi

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 10:52 PM - Reply

It think it's time to use some strong language to address fellow Arsenal Supporters! This season is LOST already! Shout me down if you like!!! The only way to salvage it is beat Chelsea, Man U and Liverpool at home. Do you think this Arsenal team can do that? They can if the strikers come together and do overtime trainng for themselves to sharpen up. BUT IT WON'T BE DONE. It might even be a task to take second place, because even Chelsea is creeping up. A TOP FOUR TEAM, ESPECIALLY LEADER IN TABLE DRAWS THREE MATCHES IN A ROW AND EVERYBODY IS EXCUSING THEM ESPECIALLY MR. ADEBAYOR 'COS OF PERSONAL RECORD. THAT'S WHY GALLAS IS THE ONLY ONE WHO HAS REAL PASSION IN THAT TEAM. THIS IS DISGRACEFUL. IF MAN U HAD DONE THIS, FERGUSON WOULD BE LIVID WITH PLAYERS AND BOARD WOULD BE LIVID WITH HIM. I'M SURE WE'LL GIVE THE EXCUSE OF THE FACT THAT WENGER SAVES MONEY AND NOBODY GAVE US A CHANCE. WAKE UP!!! THE CHANCE IS NOW REAL WHY NOW WASTE IT AWAY. I BELIEVE WENGER IS THE ONE BUILDING THIS WASTEFUL AND CAREFREE ATTITUDE INTO THIS PLAYERS 'COS THAT'S HOW ARSENAL HAVE BEEN. BECAUSE THIS IS A GREAT TEAM THAT CAN OVERWHELM ANY TEAM ANYTIME! PORTO WON CHAMPIONS LEAGUE BECAUSE THEY HAD A COACH THAT WANTED TO WIN NOT JUST HAVE A GOOD TIME.
THE SAN SIRO DREAM IS PAST. FORGET ALL THIS BIG TALK. TELL ADEBAYOR TO BE QUIET. HE TALKS NONSENSE. HE SAYS THEY CAN BEAT ALL COMERS BUT CANNOT BEAT STRUGGLING TEAMS IN PREMIERSHIP. THINGS ARE GETTING OUT OF HAND IN THIS CLUB. I JUST HOPE THERE'S SOMEONE WHO(ALONG WITH GALLAS ALSO)FEELS THE SAME!

NB: I don't know why Wenger sold Pires. Since then Hleb, Rosicky, Flamini even the GREAT Fabregas are playing football, but not scoring goals often. He (Pires) scored more goals in a season than all of them combined. I for one was against it. Now it's clear Wenger made a mistake!!! Maybe he should be bought back to add experience to the midfield. WENGER SWALLOW YOUR PRIDE AND BRING ARSENAL BACK TO CUP WINNING WAYS- PLEEEEEEEEEEEEASE!

john quinn

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 10:50 PM - Reply

in reply to dan i think we will win he following games v BORO CHELSEA READING DERBY SUNDERLAND and draw v BOLTON LIVERPOOL MAN UTD EVERTON = 85pts WHAT DO YOU THINK ?

Robin

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 10:45 PM - Reply

3-1

faiz

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 10:44 PM - Reply

I agree with alot of ur article. but i think for a team to be able to hold onto the top spot, they need to be able to adapt their game plan to suit the pitch we're playing on and the teams we're playing against. on the tactical front we seem quite flat at times and i think this could be our downfall this season.

casicky

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 10:44 PM - Reply

i have been on this blogg before and i mus admit its never been this way comments after every minute i like it,its a pity it aint always like this or is it????
Roma look set up for the takning i agree but i think its going to be one of the big ones..

DAN

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 10:42 PM - Reply

anyone got any predictions for saturday.

Dan

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 10:39 PM - Reply

i think the team i want in the next round is roma

john quinn

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 10:38 PM - Reply

i have a message for depressing dan .. who was the last team to beat chelsea at the bridge ? answer ARSENAL we were all down after the wigan game ... i find watching a video of FEVER PITCH very consoling and keeps the spirits up ARSENAL are the most unique team in world football and it takes a special kind of fan to support them ... you know what we are like ... it is all part of the pain of our love affair with this most wonderful club IREPEAT WE WILL BE CHAMPIONS just wait and see

casicky

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 10:37 PM - Reply

um not sure what i want really,i feel we need to play team sthat want to play and are not built on their defences Barca,Fene,Schalke,Roma whereas all the rest are kinda built from behind and so they dont all out attack,so um not sure i want to meet the englich teams yet.i bet will meet either lpool or manUre,jus see us playin them during the wk n then at the wkend.

Robin

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 10:36 PM - Reply

yeah, i wouldnt mind getting barca actually, we would play better against them than fenerbahce for instance

DAN

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 10:32 PM - Reply

does anyone want to avoid an english team in the next round of the c league.

Robin

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 10:31 PM - Reply

we will have 2 more before next season though, so itll be worth the wait

Dan

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 10:29 PM - Reply

surely a team like arsenal should not be going 4 years without a trophy tho it is absolutely shocking.

Robin

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 10:26 PM - Reply

I think we need 2 win more than 5 to get the title, at least 7 or 8.

casicky

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 10:26 PM - Reply

we not really two points clear,that kinda sounds like no one else has games in hand,realistically we a point behind manUre and we can still overhaul them...

casicky

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 10:22 PM - Reply

jq go on i wanna know too

Andy

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 10:22 PM - Reply

Dan, the way to look at it realistically is would you have been happy at the beginning of the season if someone told you we would be 2 points clear with 9 games to go..........the answer has gotta be yes. We have a cracking team. Look at the beginning of the mancs run when scholes etc. first started. We have the players to do similar and this season will show you that much. The team have had a few off days but they are still a great team. Clichy, Ade, Cesc, Sagna, Flamini, Rosicky have been superb (apart from Clichy forgetting where he was against birmingham). Cheer up and enjoy YOUR team. Stop reading the daily dirt from fat twatslike that samuels bloke in the news of the world. That fat git has no idea and has clearly never played the game. All the other papers are the same. One week they slate someone the next he is the best player in the world. Don't be one of those people. Support your team through the hard times when they need you most and believe in the quality players we have. A negative crowd has a bad affect on the players. You only have to go to shite hart lane to know that. Those sad bastards have bought out a commemorative watch for the muppet cup.....how sad. Surely we haven't become that desperate for success????

DAN

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 10:18 PM - Reply

so what 5 will we win. and what 4 will we draw

john quinn

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 10:16 PM - Reply

we have 9 games to go we will win 5 and draw 4 and we will be champions ..stay positive and calm and everything will work out fine

Robin

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 10:14 PM - Reply

what is wrong with those villa fans? y would u laugh at a professional footballer who has a serious injury? they have no respect...

casicky

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 10:07 PM - Reply

nobody is saying they happy wiv our recent domestic form its absolutly atrocious for a championship chasing team,but what we optimistic Gunnz are saying is its a depressing run of games and results but its not over infact its far from,we still can do it its the premiership and its tugging every which way and we are still in it,we have to stay upbeat and make sure we transfer that to the team..come on u Gunnz.

DAN

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 10:06 PM - Reply

ok.ok im sorry for being so negative,but this situation is bollocks,it just gets me down. we should be beating these shitty little teams.as for the wigan and villa fans there scum of the earth.singing about eduardo that is below the belt man.

Robin

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 10:06 PM - Reply

3 goals wouldnt be good enough if it happened consistently, but this is the first rough patch weve had all season, it will get better from here.

DAN

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 10:02 PM - Reply

andy you must be one of those club level supporters.me mate im old skool arsenal.im just saying what im seeing and at the moment it's not looking to clever.do you think if man u were in our position they would not have capitalised on the situation.3 goals in 3 prem games is not good enough if you are wanting to win the prem.

casicky

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 09:58 PM - Reply

DAN,come on man get over ur doom,we beat Milan at the san siro didnt we???the good thing is that chavz are going to be going for it and thats what we want its going to be an open game each team going for it and if we really do feel our team is that good at it then then will be the time to show it to US to themselves and to all them stupid doubters out there,most of you have said on any day we can beat ANY team so whats so invincible bout the stupid chavs??

Robin

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 09:56 PM - Reply

Arsenal are obviously going 2 step up their game when they play chelsea...just look what happened in milan, they had NEVER been beaten there by an english team before, and we dominated them. arsenal will be fired uo for the big games

Robin

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 09:54 PM - Reply

Yeah, u cant buy a ticket and whinge when arsenal dont win. no-ones forcing u 2 buy it..

DAN

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 09:52 PM - Reply

can some one please tell me why every one thinks we are gonna go to chelsea and beat them when they have not lost there in four years,we can't even beat wigan or birmingham away.the best we can hope for is a draw.after that there is bolton away apart from the fa cup
when did we win there last.

Andy

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 09:50 PM - Reply

Don't give me that spending money crap. Thats not what supporting your team is about. They could survive without your money as there are thousands of people who would happily take your ticket off you. People who would support their team like I do. We have had a few bad games but so have your other team. If they were as good as you think they are they would be romping away with the league. You must have been listening to Alex Ferguson tapes as you nod off because you are believing what he says over Arsene. Get over yourself. Get behind you team and enjoy the football you and I get to watch every week. If not give up your ticket to someone who wants to get behind their team.

Robin

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 09:47 PM - Reply

Yeah we r still top of the league...somewhere basically no-one thought we would be before the season began. The players will be motivated for saturday, and united will be under pressure as well, dont forget, so we r still in a fantastic position.

casicky

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 09:43 PM - Reply

cant believe pple cud actually give up now??there is jus so much to look forward to..van P back as well as Kolo and if yo ulook at it we could have our best eleven back for the chavs and i bet the argument will be 4-5-1 or 4-4-2 coz 4sure Rosicky(the main man) will be back,its bad yes but its far from being over!!

Robin

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 09:42 PM - Reply

Why do u buy season tickets, if u dont even support your team properly? if u r going 2 whine every time they draw a game, it seems like a waste of money.

Andy

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 09:41 PM - Reply

Thats one game away from home. That was a good enough excuse for the mancs a minute ago but not your own team. You seem to think everyone is going to roll over for the mancs. They have still got to play Chelsea, Liverpool, Aston Villa, Blackburn oh and us. I know you probably see these as 3 pointers. I don't. There is still alot of football to play. Ade has scored 19goals. We are no longer reliant on one person scoring and making our goals. Ade has a tremendous work rate which goes un noticed to people who don't understand the game. He is by no means the finished article but the team are spreading the goals about. My main concern is letting in sloppy goals but that doesn't mean I want to sell our back four. You need to get a life and see past Henry. He was the greatest but is no more. Gone but never forgotten. He is a shadow of the player for Barcelona and Ade is the future. You can't say he hasn't improved from last year. He is much better and still only 24. I bet you criticised Henry and Bergkamp in their early years. You would have had to eat your words then and will be chomping away on them again. Come on Arsenal

DAN

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 09:40 PM - Reply

you can't win every game in the season. well you have got to win against wigan when you are only one point ahead of your'e nearest rivals in order to win the league.im so annoyed about this because i spend lots of money on a season ticket every year to see us play preety football and win nothing .i dont know if your'e one of these jonny come latelys but if your'e happy to blow grands on season tickets and see us win f all you must have money coming out you're ears.

Robin

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 09:38 PM - Reply

I agree with Casicky, u guys were all probably worshipping adebayor when he was scoring in every single game, and as soon as he stops you want to sell him? wow, a few games without a goal. leave him alone.

casicky

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 09:35 PM - Reply

talk of selling Ade is ludicrous going onto stupidity its a pity we cant look back on the pple talking bout selling him when he was on fire they were probly the same pple going on bout how he has improved and his work rate is jus even better,u jus have to admit the three draws have really dealt us a mean blow but normally we have met the big four and performed admirably the boys jus have to step it up to exceptionally...we can do it,deep down you all know we can do it.

Robin

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 09:32 PM - Reply

Why would we sell our top scorer? thats ludacris, it doesnt make sense. U cant judge him on 2 missed chances, think of all the other important goals he has got aver the season. And I wasnt blaming the pitch, even though it was terrible. You cant win every single game in the season, and i dont know y u r so annoyed about this.

re andy from dan

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 09:27 PM - Reply

look at the excuses you are comin out with, about the pitch we played on, in case you didn't see the robin van persie interview he did not blame the pitch at all.adebayor should of put that game to bed in the first minute.instead he missed that chance,and the other one where he should of stuck the ball over the keepers head. in my opinion he is not good enough for this club and we should cash in on him and sell him to milan.if you want to win the league you have to put them chances away.

Andy

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 09:24 PM - Reply

to the person asking why I am so positive. We are having a bad run, which every team has. We are still top of the league. We have to play all our nearest rivals and can beat all three and are a team noted for coming on strong in the latter stages of the season. The team has improved every year with nothing yet to show for it but I think this year we have as much chance as anyone else and I hope the team shove your negative thoughts where they belong and Ade picks up the golden boot. The mancs are very reliant on Ronaldo. I he isn't scoring he is setting them up. He doesn't do that well against Clichy from what I recall. However you'll probably disagree with that and stick up for your other team again.

Robin

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 09:21 PM - Reply

Yeah, complaining & whinging isnt helping anyone. Y r u even on this site, it is supposed to be for arsenal fans, u should be on the united fan site.

Robin

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 09:16 PM - Reply

Because, we r still top of the league despite drawing 3 in a row, and we just knocked out the champions league holders by beating them at the san siro, and van persie is fit again and will hopefully help us in the remainder of the season.

Andy

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 09:16 PM - Reply

there is only one disillusioned fan here. Thats the one that is criticising his ownteam. There is no doubt that the mancs are a good team. But the premiership is never a done deal. As I already stated against the mancs and the yids we did not turn up. But on our day we are more than a match against them. 2 of our 3 recent draws were away. One of them was in a ploughed field against another team who put alot of men behind the ball. You don't mention this but happily make excuses for our rivals. Good on yer. Hope you get everything you dream for which is clearly F*&k all for us and a double for the mancs.

re robin from dan

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 09:14 PM - Reply

can you please tell me why you are still so positive please.

casicky

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 09:13 PM - Reply

with you all the way Andy,although i still can 4give sum of these pple on here who moaning big time you can only moan when you feel your team is actually punching below what you know they can do,Derby fans dont rant bout their team coz they know they cant produce mos of the time...come on Gooners the team has jus made sure we set it up in a way that we show the manc and the chavs what we all bout.

Robin

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 09:06 PM - Reply

They could drop points at any time. remember against man city, bolton etc? NO-ONE expected them to lose, yet they did. Show some positivity, we r still top of the league (which nobody expected us 2 be at start of season)

re;andy and robun

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 09:01 PM - Reply

one of them games were a local derby anything can happen the other two were away from home with them having more home games then away games left at this point in the season they simply won't emplode like we have.even if we were to win the double don't make me laugh your'e just a dissalusioned fan.can't you people see this.

Robin

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 08:58 PM - Reply

Andy is right, you should just support united if u cant support the gunners properly and respectfully. Who badmouths their own team?

Andy

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 08:50 PM - Reply

Dan, this would be the same mancs who have lost to Man City, West Ham and Bolton. There so invincible. I can see why you prefer them to your own club. I bet your never happy. Even if we were to win the double people like you would still find something negative to say about players or the manager. I say again, you have a short memory. No doubt you are the sort of supporter who boo's his own players when they are having a bad game instead of getting behind them when they need your support the most.

Robun

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 08:45 PM - Reply

DAN, shut up, what kind of supporter are u? Andy, good on u, u know what 2 support ur club means

DAN

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 08:37 PM - Reply

hey andy your'e going to end up very dissapointed at the end of the season when we win nothing.i came to terms with it when we drew with birmingham also can you really see man u droping anymore points this season.nooooooooooooo

chibyx

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 08:34 PM - Reply

ANDY I FEEL U

Andy

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 08:28 PM - Reply

Have just found this site and cannot believe what I am reading. I thought this was an Arsenal supportrs forum. Some really negative comments from some so called supporters. You support your team through thick or thin. The alternative is you support the mancs or chelsea. We went for years without decent trophies in the 80's and now we have a cracking team who have more about them now than ever before. We lost 1 game in the league and 2 cup games where we just didn't turn up. Get over it. Judge them in the return against the mancs and we will see what th players are made of. We will beat them and Chelsea because the players have come on leaps and bounds since last year and they will show how much Arsenal means to them. I wear my shirt win, lose or draw and am honest in my assessment of our team. We will win one and hopefully two trophies this year. How can anyone slate Ade after what he has done for us this year. You lot have got short memories and need to take a long loo at yourselves. For those remaining as positive as me good on yer. Come on Ade silence these doubters.

Andy

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 08:24 PM - Reply

Have just found this site and cannot believe what I am reading. I thought this was an Arsenal supportrs forum. Some really negative comments from some so called supporters. You support your team through thick or thin. The alternative is you support the mancs or chelsea. We went for years without decent trophies in the 80's and now we have a cracking team who have more about them now than ever before. We lost 1 game in the league and 2 cup games where we just didn't turn up. Get over it. Judge them in the return against the mancs and we will see what th players are made of. We will beat them and Chelsea because the players have come on leaps and bounds since last year and they will show how much Arsenal means to them. I wear my shirt win, lose or draw and am honest in my assessment of our team. We will win one and hopefully two trophies this year. How can anyone slate Ade after what he has done for us this year. You lot have got short memories and need to take a long loo at yourselves. For those remaining as positive as me good on yer. Come on Ade silence these doubters.

Andy

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 08:20 PM - Reply

Have just found this site and cannot believe what I am reading. I thought this was an Arsenal supportrs forum. Some really negative comments from some so called supporters. You support your team through thick or thin. The alternative is you support the mancs or chelsea. We went for years without decent trophies in the 80's and now we have a cracking team who have more about them now than ever before. We lost 1 game in the league and 2 cup games where we just didn't turn up. Get over it. Judge them in the return against the mancs and we will see what th players are made of. We will beat them and Chelsea because the players have come on leaps and bounds since last year and they will show how much Arsenal means to them. I wear my shirt win, lose or draw and am honest in my assessment of our team. We will win one and hopefully two trophies this year. How can anyone slate Ade after what he has done for us this year. You lot have got short memories and need to take a long loo at yourselves. For those remaining as positive as me good on yer. Come on Ade silence these doubters.

Sara

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 08:11 PM - Reply

Guys, chill out. Arsenal are two points in front. We've had a bad batch but we're still two points in front as the writer said. Man Utd don't have to drop points against Derby; they just have to drop points (lose or draw) at some point in the next 10 games. Don't focus on Derby, they are other bigger games. Keep the faith and keep calm. Don't be knee jerk - 90mins is a long time. 9 games is an even longer time.

dan

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 07:10 PM - Reply

basically people like gallas are coming to the end of there career and if arsenal end up with nothing which is very likely he will want to leave the club than that would put things back futher we can not afford to be losing experianced players

casicky

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 07:05 PM - Reply

we can do this boys we jus have to buckle up big time against the big teams,i dont believe the other teams are gona go unbeaten and we shud realise that we can go to stamford and trafford and actually cum out wiv 6pts we can do that...sumtimes tho jus feel those boys in that team are young and it jus crosses their minds sumtimes that they still have time to win things and if this season aint the season then well theres another season..but pple like Gallas play like theres no 2moro and give all thats why he always shows up...any thoughts on that???

casicky

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 06:55 PM - Reply

thats the way to look at things, amte of mine was down in the dumps talking bout how we had done well and our only chance was the champs league but i kept telling him we are still in the thick of things and there is no need for us to start beating ourselves up.i disagree on the fact that you said that there is a likelyhood Derby will get sumn from manUre its jus inconceivable to me and so shud be to all of us we lie in second 1pt behind manUre as far as um concerned

DAN

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 06:54 PM - Reply

MAN U LOST IN THE FA CUP NOT DROPED POINTS TO WIGAN,VILLA OR BIRMINGHAM.THIS BAD PATCH HAS COST US THE LEAGUE FOR FUCK SAKE.

U guys MAke me SICK

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 06:51 PM - Reply

OK, we av had a bad patch!!. AND SO UR FUKING HIGHEST GOAL SCORER SHULD BE SOLD, IF U ASK ME D ONLY PERSON TO LEAVE IS VAN PERSIE ( dis guy is def not an arsenal player) to prove dat point, i will ask, how many games has he played 4 us dis season? I GUESSED AS MUCH! VERY LITTLE!!. ADEBAYOR's WORKRATE WAS DEFINATELY GONNA CATCH UP WID HIM SUMDAY, HE NEEDS A BREAK, SO IF ADE DOESNT SCORE, NO1 ELSE CAN?. I AM SICK OF READING ALL DIS MIND BLOWING FANS SAY TRASH HERE!!, DIS LEAGUE IS NOT LOST cos MAN U r JUST AS INCONSISTENT AS US. I SAW DEIR FA CUP WID PORTSMOUTH AND WOW, dATS NOT HOW D LEAGUE IS WON EITHER, I JUST HOPE VAN PERSIE doesnt GO BAK TO HIS HOME (INJURY ROOM), DEN MAYBE WE CULD BE ALRITE, N HUI SAYS CHELSKI CANT LOSE @ HOME, WE BEAT MILAN @ SAM SIRO 4 CHRIST SAKES. AND YES MAYBE I MUST AGREE ARSENE NEEDS TO ADD DEPTH TO D SQUARED.

DAN

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 06:50 PM - Reply

find it hard to find a better side than arsenal.im an arsenal season ticket holder for the past 18 years. yes the football we play is excellent but you have to back that up with trophys and that's something we have not done or looks like we are going to do for some time.terri are you telling me that we are going to win the league now after droping so many points.

MAJEBELE NSHIMBA

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 06:47 PM - Reply

Thats what I want to hear from die hard supporters, the Prem is still there to play for, and we are that close mate, that close! Come on arsenal!

Terri

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 06:34 PM - Reply

agree whole heartedley with Robin. This team had done wonders this season with such a young side after nobody gave them a chance. Funny how you all know how to run a football club better than Arsene Wenger. You support your team on good days and bad. Don't suppose you were thinking this way when they won at the San Siro.
If you can't support the Gunners all the time go soemwhere else you will find it hard to find a better side than the Arsenal

Koen Nmgn

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 06:10 PM - Reply

I hope Van Persie will step up, we need goalscorers as Bendtner and Adebayor are not up for all the games we play. Van Persie can do it for us, let's hope he gets the playingtime and has the ability to show his quality immediately after his injuries.

DAN

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 05:12 PM - Reply

SURELY IF WENGER HAS GOT A SO CALLED 70 MILLION TO SPEND ITS TIME TO GO OUT AND SIGN SOME PLAYERS ITS AN ABSOLUTE SHAMBLES AT LETTING THE LEAGUE SLIP LIKE THAT.WE HAVE GOT TO MANY INJURY PRONE PLAYERS IN THIS SQUAD ITS TIME TO GET RID OF THEM AND GET SOME SUSTAINABLE PLAYERS WHO CAN LAST THE PACE OF THE SEASON.ALSO IT IS SO CLEAR THAT ARSENAL LACK A NATURAL WINGER HLEB AND ROSICKY ARE NOT NATURAL WING PLAYERS.THEO AND DIABY ARE GOING TO BE INJURY PRONE ASWELL.

Robin

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 05:05 PM - Reply

what the hell kind of arsenal supporters are you? we get a couple of bad results and u all want adebayor 2 leave, and start blaming wenger. you r all a bunch of glorios and u make me sick, u dont know what supporting a team is.

Ihatenoball

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 04:56 PM - Reply

That if it was easy 4 arsenal 2 draw 3 game consecutively then it will b easy 4 man u, chelsea 2 win.

WENGER IS AT FAULT

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 04:38 PM - Reply

THE MANAGER IS COMPLETELY AT FAULT....I was at the Fa cup at man u, THAT WAS A ABSOLUTE SHAME & A EMBARRASSMENT. To become a great team you must be consistent & a winner when its VERY VERY TOUGH.

I AGREE ADE IS AWFUL THE SERVICE HE HAD HE SHOULD HAVE HAD 30+. He is a arrogant little creature.

We need a world class striker, a game winner a midfielder that can score goals, & not be injured all the time.

true say

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 04:27 PM - Reply

OUT ADE OUT
OUT ADE OUT
OUT ADE OUT
OUT ADE OUT
OUT ADE OUT
OUT ADE OUT...............GET THIS FOOOOOOL OUT.

saracen

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 04:22 PM - Reply

Wenger is to blame, for not buying any players in Jan, knowing Arsenal have injury prone players.........GET RID OF ADE, GILBERTO, HOYTE & Rosicky IN GOURCUFF, NASRI, & BENZEEEEEMA.
WENGER IS TO BLAME....another season with no trophies I envisage.

Naz

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 04:15 PM - Reply

Jasper man u ll nt lose cos u lost

Naz

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 04:10 PM - Reply

U ve spoke well bt d truth is when u fail 2 win, u got punished 4 it. Man u ll try nt 2 lose anx game again especially when dey are out of F A. So d cup is till floating.

DAN

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 04:00 PM - Reply

AS MUCH AS IT HURTS ME TO SAY ARSENAL WILL END UP WITH NOTHING THIS SEASON JUST WAIT AND SEE.MAN U'S NEXT GAMES R DERBY AND BOLTON THATS 6 POINTS,CHELSEA'S NEXT GAMES DERBY SUNDERLAND & THE SCUM 9 POINTS ARSENAL NEXT GAMES BORO AND CHELSEA.DOUBLE YOU HOW CAN YOU JUSTIFY US BEATING CHELSEA AWAY WE CAN'T EVEN BEAT BIRMINGHAM OR WIGAN AWAY LET ALONE VILLA HOME.

brigham

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 03:58 PM - Reply

We always struggle against the 'supposed' smaller teams, always. All is not over and we can still win the Premiership as there are plenty more points at stake. I agree that it will be more difficult now, but if and its a big if, we beat both the Mancs and Chelski, then it will be ours.

Also, Wigan were no mugs and defended well against us by denying us space, closing us down and looking to get forward themeselves.

Keep the faith Gooners, keep the faith.

Jesper

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 03:44 PM - Reply

How can you say that ManU will not lose when they lost their last match....

Scott Brown

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 03:35 PM - Reply

Premiership title run in is over. Man U will not lose another game. It sickens me to admit this but Fergie's teams just do not drop points the last games of any season. I am really frustrated that we could not score against Wigan (who is relegated threatened for goodness sake). Does not bode well for the Gunners . . .

deji

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 03:31 PM - Reply

you'r right all the way thru bro. Anyhow, nothing dey happen....na we get Premiership this season. Gunner 4 life

John

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 03:22 PM - Reply

Obviously nothing to to with Wigans defence. You lot are laughable

Paulinho

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 03:21 PM - Reply

C'mon United are playing Derby. They're already two points clear taking into consideration goal difference.

Double-you

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 02:49 PM - Reply

and thats another thing. this point may be valuable down the line. Wigan have conceded just 2 goals in their last six games (both against sunderland away). Defensively they are shaping up well and have a fantastic keeper in Kirkland.

Thanks for the support edam

Obeweh Lawrence Maduabuchi

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 02:44 PM - Reply

Even the pitches in Primary schools here in Nigeria are by afr more better than what we saw at the JJB stadium. I wonder why such a pitch is allowed for competitive matches in the premiership. Even b4 the match, i knew that Arsenal chances of grinding result out of JJB is 50-50. Although Wigan played very well to be honest, but i think Arsenal would have still got a result if the pitch was better. Ade actually missed a glorious chance in the first 49 seconds.
I still confidently believe that the premiership still belongs to Arsenal. Atleast Man U will have to win their outstanding first b4 we start talking about the title tiltling away from the Gunners.

Double-you

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 02:44 PM - Reply

Totally disagree with Dan (below 13). Chelsea will lose at home soon. i think it will be this season. Either us or man utd will beat them. If man utd don't beat them, that means there is an opportunity for us to pick up points. Don't be so negative. Who would have thought man utd would have lost at home to man city or portsmouth in fa cup. Yes, it's no looking as good as it was in february, but anything can happen.

edam

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 02:34 PM - Reply

obviously i am biased as a wigan fan, but you fail to mention the fact we played very well, our defence contained you as a unit, kirkland made some superb saves, and the pitch was bad for you but it was the same for us. the pitch is a good excuse but its not as if its different for arsenal just because their style of play - if that is the case you need to reconsider your tactics to suit situations.

man utd still have to visit the JJB so they will also have to deal with the pitch, and whilst i agree it is a disaster, it is no different to when any other team visits.

good luck guys, i hope you do win the league.

DAN

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 02:13 PM - Reply

I THINK YOU SHOULD START GIVING UP BECAUSE WE LOST THE LEAGUE WHEN WE DREW WITH BIRMINGHAM.MAN U HAVE GOT GAMES IN HAND AS HAVE CHELSEA BOTH OF THEM WILL NOT DROP POINTS LIKE WE HAVE.ALSO I REALLY CANT SEE US WINNING AT CHELSEA BECAUSE THE SIMPLE FACT IS THEY DON'T LOSE AT HOME.BY THEN MAN U WILL BE AHEAD ON POINTS AND HAVE A MASSIVE GOAL DIFFERENCE.WENGER IS TO BLAME FOR ALL OF THIS IN HAVING NOT BROUGHT STRENGTH IN DEPT.I THINK SOME QUESTIONS ARE TO BE ASKED OF WENGER IF WE DON'T WIN NOTHING AGAIN.IN MY OPINION ADEBAYOR IS JUST NOT GOOD ENOUGH IF YOU WANT TO WIN THE LEAGUE YOUR'E GONNA HAVE TO STICK THEM CHANCES AWAY IT'S JUST NOT GOOD ENOUGH.

bert bragg wigan

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 02:05 PM - Reply

do u not think wigan gave arsenal a game because we tryed to play the same game

Mark C

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 02:02 PM - Reply

OK so we all know Fabregas should not play out wide, why does Wenger not know this?

I think playing Traore and Clichy down the left with Hleb and and Sagna down the right would have been better.

Also that red card Eboue got has realy cost us. After missing over 8 games due to the ACN, he gets a red the game he comes back into, so he has missed 11 out of 12 domestic games.

Lets hope we have some wide players to select from on Saturday and we focus on the title. It is still in our hands, if we win all of our games, we will win the league.

Adam

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 01:34 PM - Reply

No, wrong, Gilberto is NOT still a good player, he is utter shite, can't do a thing right and the worst [player on the pitch. The sooner we get rid, the better. As soon as he came off, we looked so much better, he is fucking useless!

The reason

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 01:34 PM - Reply

We miss edu and rosicky,and van persie is unfit.

Obrey Mwale

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 01:30 PM - Reply

pliz minmize 16 shot passes when u r in 18.TRY GOAlS.

moxx

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 01:21 PM - Reply

i'm from romania and i don't give a shit about your goalkeeper/your team.

we need a good game against boro, the pitch will definentally bring better quality. only if we don't win, then we should start worrying.

nacer olubengo

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 01:18 PM - Reply

guys we are going for both cups, yes we have injuries but then still 9 games plus 3 with cl, just hangon there, all the boys will be back soon gunners never give up remember last year this is a big diffrence

thomas

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 01:11 PM - Reply

I'm from holland and i have a comment. The name of our goalkeeper is wrong!! It's Van der Sar! with 1 'a'. just a typing fault, not a big deal haha !!

Anon

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 01:09 PM - Reply

We currently have four midfielders injured (Walcott, Diaby, Song, Rosicky) five if you include Dudu and one suspended (Eboue). You can't build your squad to cope with that. Also Kolo was a winger when he first joined us, it's not like he can't play in that position.

thomas

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 01:00 PM - Reply

I'm from holland and i have a comment. The name of our goalkeeper is wrong!! It's Van der Sar! with 1 'a'. just a typing fault, not a big deal haha !!

UNPREDICTABLE

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 12:56 PM - Reply

Hi, i think Wenger was scared to substitute Adebayor, he was shit yesterday, Bentner played very well i thought, he shud have stayed on with Van Persie, Anyway, all is not lost we have plenty of matches to play, with Van Persie back, it is all rosy(spl) Wigan shud not be allowed to play in the epl, the pitch was so awful. Go gunners, nine games to go, everything to play for.

Iain

Posted on 10 Mar, 2008 at 12:44 PM - Reply

We are going to lose the league because we have such a shallow squad that we have to play Toure as a winger. It is a disgrace that we are in this position. And only one person can take the blame for that.

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