When will the Board realise that Wenger is past it?

When will the Board realise that Wenger is past it?

Say what you will but this really is it now, Arsène Wenger officially does not quite know what he is doing. A fourth successive 0-0 draw, three of which have come at home against remarkably inferior opposition, and the painful thing is, no one is even surprised that we regularly drop points against the likes of Hull, Stoke, Fulham, Sunderland and the like anymore (need I carry on)?!

The boos ringing around the Emirates Stadium after yesterday's pulseless display would irk any manager in the top flight and have him firmly on his toes. But not Wenger. He has had the security and almost immunity over the last five years, FIVE YEARS, and yet with every failure he grows more stubborn, more deluded, more incompetent. After all, you cannot fully blame him; it is the board that have made his position unbelievably strong, giving him their utmost backing even with the most inept of performances and the most shocking of signings. For all his great rhetoric and promises of greatness and "belief in my team", "his team" have failed to deliver on a regular basis, making themselves, and our fans, a ceremonious laughing stock amongst the football world.

Francesc Fabregas had the cheek to declare recently that we cannot win the title this season. Cannot win the title?! Are you having a laugh? If I were you Fab, I would be looking behind you mate, as Everton and your best mate Arteta are ready to pounce for our fifth spot, never mind the title, never mind the Champions League come to that!

From four points behind the Champions one year, having led the table for most of the campaign, to sixteen points off the top, and with qualification to even the UEFA Cup not secured let alone the Champions League, really stinks of a manager who just does not know how to rediscover consistency anymore, does not know how to function his team ruthlessly and capably anymore, does not know how to simply win anymore. I used to think that José Mourinho was an insecure, arrogant snob (or a word that rhymes with the latter anyway) every time he delivered a thinly veined attack aimed at Arsenal and Wenger for not having won anything for years. But now I believe him and see his point, how are we idolising someone who talks the talk and yet cannot walk the walk?! It is not as if we have slid gradually into relative mediocrity, we are doing it with such dramatic style, and there can only be one man to blame.

Wenger's reign can be split nicely into two halves. Consider Wenger's record up until the last trophy won, 2005, quite possibly the last trophy Wenger will ever be able get his hands on at the Club. Back then, Wenger's record read: seven major trophies in eight seasons at the Club, a terrific return, along with all the other achievements that had put us firmly on the map. Wenger has destroyed all the remarkable "miracle-working" that he had done single-handedly and reduced us to this, being unable to score against Tottenham, West Ham, Sunderland and Fulham in quick succession, slipping from six points to an alarming sixteen points. Toothless. Helpless. Hopeless!

This might sound like an absolute spur of the moment article, where I am being so daft and pathetic in questioning the manager's capability to win football matches. But the results speak for themselves, Wenger is unable to win football matches, it is that simple! We cannot simply turn someone into a god and think of him as irreplaceable for what he has done in the past. The past is in the past, for the record books, and for the good moments of nostalgia.

Life is about the here and now, and our here and now is not good, not good at all, and hasn't been for five years too many! This is what keeps winners like Ferguson, Capello and Mourinho (I say begrudgingly) going. And this is what makes people who like to settle for second-best, foolishly optimistically hoping for a good future like Wenger simply just fall by the wayside.

The people who argue that the likes of van Persie, Fabregas and Walcott would follow Wenger out of the door should he leave are probably right. I happen to believe that the same would happen. But where have they been when we needed them? Can they honestly leave and claim to have done as much good for us as their predecessors have? Can they honestly look at themselves in the mirror and claim that they see the Vieiras, Píres', and Henrys of this world in them? I don't think so, and so they can go, if they have based their dreams on a faltering and failing man, rather than their love for a great Club, a great Club whose name is being stained in the dirt by the manager's clueless management, and the players lack of heart and ability, and their utmost profligacy against timid, weak opposition.

And, for anyone who feels the need to hit back at me should we trounce West Bromwich Albion 3-0 on Tuesday (though I doubt very much that this will happen) and qualify for the Champions League quarter-finals, my response would be, what vindication is that? You are trying to criticise me and bash my argument for beating the team at the foot of the table? A sign of the times indeed!

Right, this is my rant over, and whatever happens, I just do not think I can bring myself to being in love with Le Boss anymore. The Professor has killed every moment of joy he has brought to me as a Gooner when I was used to watching the most magnificent football being played, with trophies being swept along the way, to being reduced to this mess! The boos ringing around Ashburton Grove yesterday will suggest that a few other thousand people, and millions around the city, and across the world, will agree with me.

Prior to the match against Fulham, Wenger was adamant that we'd find our rhythm (isn't he always?) and stated that him and his underachieving players had to convince the supporters of their worth. I have a suggestion to our fallen boss: stop the chat, cut the crap and actually go out there and win some games, we'd be much happier like that, rather than being humiliatingly subjected to your endless list of pathetic excuses game after game!

You have a lot of convincing to do Arsène, a lot!

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naijagooner

Posted on 5 Mar, 2009 at 02:30 PM - Reply

you're spot on mr. i think le boss should do more inward reasoning than talking.

Abasiono, Lagos Nigeria

Posted on 4 Mar, 2009 at 01:26 PM - Reply

Your article show your frustration about the Manager and I quite understand. Every Arsenal Fan is upset but... Football is a game and also a BUSINESS! Wenger has manage to balance both with little finances and the books are healthy even during the global economic downturn. Believe me there is a time for everything under the season. Arsenal will surely bounce back under Wenger, That is a given! Up Gooners for Life

Fredrick

Posted on 4 Mar, 2009 at 11:57 AM - Reply

I completely disagree. If you believe the results speak for themselves, why bother to watch the game? The game speaks for itself and the game is very good. There were a host of missed chances in all of our draws, created by some fantastic, creative, pacy football that was great to watch, despite the score. Stop watching the table, start watching the pitch. Enjoy watching Arsenal for the way they play the game rather than the score line. If you want to win boring matches 1-0, watch Chelsea.

Fungus

Posted on 4 Mar, 2009 at 08:46 AM - Reply

Hahahahaha what a load of crap! You really don't get it do you? Wenger walks and we're screwed! He's the single most important person to this club. Arsenal are currently in major debt. We've taken on loans to help finance a huge investment that we call the emirates stadium. Few if any managers would be able to manage his players with half the aplomb that Mr. Wenger does given the resources he has to work with. You think he wouldn't just love to go out there and splash 30 million pounds and get a torres to give him 20+ goals a season or just gladly offer Flamini 80k a week and keep him here?? Believe me he would, but he cant....such is our position financially. You talk about pre 2005 and post 2005, well guess what happened after 2005...Emirates genius. The man is a visionary, it was his plan to move to a new stadium coz bigger stadium = more seats = more tickets = increase in revenue... and while we all love and appreciate the beauty and magnificence of the emirates, few of us realize that there's a price we need to pay for it. I reckon it'll take atleast another 3 to 4 years for the club to repay it's dues and rid itself of financial burden after which we can possibly start competing financially with the likes of manutd and signing proven players and offering players improved contracts. We've punched above our weight for years and we still must. So be patient and appreciate the work of a great man instead of being petty and just frivolously spitting out whatever comes to mind. Trigger happy. Lets sack Wenger....Jeeez

Larry

Posted on 3 Mar, 2009 at 08:04 PM - Reply

what a load of fickle nonsense

Ross

Posted on 3 Mar, 2009 at 06:15 PM - Reply

Admittedly we are all frustrated with the teams results of late and have seen this decline coming since Wenger began weakening the side two seasons ago by selling our best performers.
For starters what is needed is clarification from the board as to whether or not we have any money to spend.
Wengers hands may be tied by a lack of funds from above.
Even if this is the case Arsene needs to stop consistantly defending players that are in poor form.
I am not saying to crucify them but a kick up the rear is sometimes the best way to motivate people into giving alittle more for the cause.
Eboue and Bendtner are simply not up to top level football and are constantly guilty of giving the ball away. They must be sidelined and fresh blood given a chance. Vela has missed a couple of golden chances of late but still looks more dangerous than Eboue. What happened to young Wiltshere after his promising start of the season??

M AD

Posted on 3 Mar, 2009 at 04:47 PM - Reply

I couldn't agree more. It s time for the Arsenal fans to stop backing and believing in Wenger new / old philsophy which consist of having a mixture of young talented players but also very medoicre ones who have no capacity of improving and who keep costing Arsenal a lot of points before the geniuse Wenger realize he made a mistake in bringing them in to Arsenal and let them go after few seasons Bentder is one of them . god knows how many points were lost because of Senderos during his time same would apply to Cygan......
Yes, nobody can forget the glory that Wenger brought to the team but what it s forgotten is that the glory came with guys like Berkamp, overmans, Viera, petit, Wiltord, Pires, Adam..... and those guys were no spring chikens. GUYS ! be realstic , you can t win trophys with kids and because Arsene Wenger won't admit that i belive that it is time for hime to go. maybe he can go and mange an under 21 if he has obsession for kids.

matthew

Posted on 3 Mar, 2009 at 04:46 PM - Reply

perfect piece! very articulate of you assler and saying what a lot of arsenal fans feel but are afraid of saying for fear of eating humble pie which in all reality does not exist(arsene has nothing to proove again he has lost his touch and focus). Not to mention the arsenal board who are just growing fat and forgetting the footballing aspect of the arsenal. Go David Dein!

MIMO (canada)

Posted on 3 Mar, 2009 at 04:40 PM - Reply

I would be interested to know if Mr. Asser Ghozlan supported Arsenal before 1998? Or is just a glory hunter who can't handle a dodgy period? Wenger has clearly not lost the plot. One foot in the quarter-finals of the Champions League, 5th in the league with 12 games to go, an easy run to the semis final of the FA cup and all this with a lot of injury to very important players like (Tomas Rosicky, Cesc Fabregas, Eduardo, Emmanuel Adebayor and Theo Walcott) who were behind our good run in the leaque last season…

Grth

Posted on 3 Mar, 2009 at 03:35 PM - Reply

Say what you will, I dont care if we won trophies or not, as long as we keep playing attacking football once the likes of Fabregas, Eduardo, vPersie, Nasri and Arshavin play regularly the results will come. There have been multitude of teams that have win the league, the champions league, etc. a lot, so being one more doest give quite a distinction, but being able to watch entertaining atacking football its priceless, not seen very frequently. So no goals in four matches and a just a penalty in CL, I dont care, Arsenal had their fair share of chances for scoring, just keep gaining access to CL football is all I need

CeeTee

Posted on 3 Mar, 2009 at 01:56 PM - Reply

You're quite an impatient fan. If you watched the game carefully, you would notice that we created chances but just lacked the ability to put the ball into the back of the net. Would you blame the manager for that? And also we have Fabregas, Rosicky, Walcott, Eduardo and co. all out injured. The loss of these players in any team would make a significant difference to their attack. I'm happy you know that no matter how much you moan, Le Boss would never get sacked because the people up there know more about the game than you do!

I'm the greatest gunners fan you'll ever meet and if you say the present situation wipes out all your good memories of Wenger, then you need to work on your patience as in my opinion, you are comparing the great manager's present with his own past achievements; Which is insane!

Guna Raj - India

Posted on 3 Mar, 2009 at 01:22 PM - Reply

this is one the most truth yet worrying article i have come across about my beloved Arsenal. the fact that we had 4 successive nil-nil draws doesnt mean that we will be screwed for the whole season. we have to think on the brighter note. yes, we are firing blanks but is our engine room working efficiently? where is the vieira like defensive splitting killer pass? none since cesc out of action.. am not saying denilson or song not level of stature of cesc but we are suffering from lack of creativity of the midfielders.. let put it this way, we didnt concede a single goal for the consecutive 4 league matches.. that means we are defensively safe n sound but not in attacking.. arshavin is still adapting, theo is severely missed in the flanks, creativity of rosicky went begging, n etc..

would i blame wenger? off course no! which manager in the world would want to see his team getting 4 consecutive draws? none for heaven sake! we some crucial matches to be won and lets rally behind our team and our manager.. lots of arsenal fans have forgotten that ROME is not build in a day, and same goes to our team, ARSENAL.. to be honest, am kind off sick and tired reading aka listening to all kinds of crap and unwanted stories, articles that can question Gunners credibility and progress.. let us judge them by end of the season.. who knows, we might ended up finishing fifth or let say 6th but winning the UEFA Champions League??? thats a point to ponder.. or to make it more sweeter, winning it with FA Cup as a double!! u never know till end of the season.. moral of the story, keep the faith with our team!! simple as that!! Gunner for life!!

EZE

Posted on 3 Mar, 2009 at 11:17 AM - Reply

OH YES, THIS JUST SAYS IT ALL, MR. WENGER HAS TOTALLY LOST IT AND NEEDS TO LEAVE THIS CLUB FOR SOMEONE WITH FRESH IDEAS, I SAID THIS LAST TERM AND NOW IT'S BEEN HAPPENING WITH GREAT PACE I WONDER WHERE WOULD FINISH NEXT SEASON IF HE CONTINUES BEING IN CHARGE.

sam

Posted on 3 Mar, 2009 at 10:48 AM - Reply

Who would you have him replaced by then? The team is not upto winning the title or champions league but with the limited money at the club no manager can do as well as he has done even during the trophyless years. If you think the likes of Morihnio (who you seem to idolise these days) can do a job at Arsenal with the limited budget, then you have no clue.

terfaphilip

Posted on 3 Mar, 2009 at 10:22 AM - Reply

Well I thought it was just me thinking this way,Wenger's time is up.We are idolising him for nothing.The man has lost it.Look at his decisions over the past year and you will agree with me.Letting Flamini,Diarra and Hleb go.Keeping and continously praising average players like Denilson,Bendtner,Diaby,Song etc.We knew when Wenger was good,that time is gone.We used to have good players,Henry,Vieira,Pires,Bergkamp, thats why we won titles not anymore.We won't win anything with what we have now.Unless we realize that Arsene's time is past we have not started solving our problems.

wale oyeleke

Posted on 3 Mar, 2009 at 09:15 AM - Reply

i really don't think you have anything to be afraid of, as regards comments bashing your views. i largely agree with bulk of your views. but i think wenger is just being a loyal servant to the board, who are very tightfisted business men, whose only interest is the p and l statement rather than results on the pitch.

he is a willing and able companion, instead of exposing their naivety in thinking we can deliver results with average and above average young players. whose talent is in doubt.

i really think he and the board need to re-think the whole strategy of stinginess and buy some big experience players to support the talented bit of our youthful players.

Mike

Posted on 3 Mar, 2009 at 12:29 AM - Reply

lol..nobody dares to comment...well to be honest you are right..but u could have said it in a less direct way..still shellschocked from our draw I still believe that wenger still got it

arsene knows, keep the faith.

Posted on 2 Mar, 2009 at 11:32 PM - Reply

Plastic Arsenal fan.

YOu fickle, fickle person, no patience whatsoever,we very nearly won the league last season n almost won the champions league before that, what were we before Arsene?

You should be ashamed.

Eugene Onoyake

Posted on 2 Mar, 2009 at 11:05 PM - Reply

Come on lad, it hasn't come 2 dat. just imagin d numba of players we've got sideline thru injuries. i kno dats not an excuse 4 not scorin at least 1 goal each in dose 4 matches, but evry 1 do go thru some patchy tyms & atleast we're not conceding goals. I still have my faith in Arsene. i really felt bad with d boos cos dat's unArsenal n not wat we want at d moment. D team needs evry 1s support at d moment. I can understand d frustration frm d fans, but lets rally round n do our part 2 support dis team. Come on U Gunners. We've still gat 2 cups 4 grab.

BOY BETTER KNOW......

Posted on 2 Mar, 2009 at 11:02 PM - Reply

I 1000000000000% AGREE with every word you have written apart from the bit about maureen,you could not have wrote this better i.m.o well said,well done i salute you,BOY BETTER KNOW

koku

Posted on 2 Mar, 2009 at 11:00 PM - Reply

I share the same sentiments reservedly.my weekend like all others were spoilt cos arsene pulled another on us by not winning this game.I am the laughing stock of all my friends. Its so bad that when my colleagues and friends don't have anything to say they comment on how we (arsenal)won't even make it to eufa cup. And sometimes they speak facts not fiction.I feel luck is on our side and God is a gunner cos aston villa isn't 8points ahead of us.but God is just and won't cheat for us eternally.we must start winning games.if we don't qualify for europe,we will lose all our players and all that arsebe has been building is worth a penny with a hole in it.arsenal for life.but I will live a short life with all these heart preoblemsa rsene has been giving me.

Score more goals than you concede please
Koku

Eugene Onoyake

Posted on 2 Mar, 2009 at 10:59 PM - Reply

Come on lad, it hasn't come 2 dat. just imagin d numba of players we've got sideline thru injuries. i kno dats not an excuse 4 not scorin at least 1 goal each in dose 4 matches, but evry 1 do go thru some patchy & atleast we're not conceding goals. I still have my faith in Arsene. i really felt bad with d boos cos dat's unArsenal n not wat we want at d moment. D team needs evry 1s support at d moment. I can understand d frustration frm d fans, but lets rally round n do our part 2 support dis team. Come on U Gunners. We've still gat 2 cups 4 grab.

Edward Dikgale

Posted on 2 Mar, 2009 at 10:23 PM - Reply

Well. This article is written with far too much emotion.
Though you may have a few points, I dont see any reason why you are being so dramatic. I must admit as an Arsenal fan I feel very offended by your article and also question your social intelligence. Ah.. there it is, by questioning your social intelligence in turn mine is questionable. I dont want to egotistic or side with the manager but here is how I'd like to put it. I love this website very much. I am here at least twice a day. Please if you feel angry or anything like that, write an article but do not publish it until you have read it again the following day when u r more calm.

Thats all I have to say for now.

Dave

Posted on 2 Mar, 2009 at 10:22 PM - Reply

Arsenal are definately failing and i agree arsene is to blame. Im not sure whether he should stay or not, I havnt made my mind up. But as supporters of Arsenal it is shocking to boo them. The word support doesnt just mean celebrate in the good times, but encourage in the bad times. Can we call ourselves supporters if we just talk about the way it used to be? No we need to make some noise and back them on the pitch.

Dazzy Gooner

Posted on 2 Mar, 2009 at 09:58 PM - Reply

Spot on mate, I totaly agree with everything you just said.

Andrew

Posted on 2 Mar, 2009 at 09:53 PM - Reply

Everything was fine before THAT match at Birmingham last season, what has happened? I'd say last season the psychology(and title challenge) of the team nosedived with Eduardos injury. This season has seen the extent of injuries go beyond expectation, affecting Adebayor's form and most importantly losing Arsenal's heartbeat Fabregas.

Something has changed for me also. I feel it is taboo to say, but despite the nostalgia and warmth of fandom over the years, it is hollow. An idiom. I expect, in the future when all traces of wengerball have gone and Arsenal is footballingly indistinguishable from Liverpool, I will feel more and more like a neutral supporter of football.

What do you want, a short term fix of trophies or long term greatness?

Toju Apo

Posted on 2 Mar, 2009 at 07:19 PM - Reply

i don't think i have to add anything to that. But the arsenal fans have endured for FOUR years and counting. No one can accuse us of being fickle. Even Fergie got to a point where he was half out the door because performances were so going seriously downhill. Our board don't seem to be bothered by the current state of affairs at all. Visionaries like Dein are shown the door instead.

It'll be impossible to replace Wenger like for like but I think his talents can be spread across 3 or 4 coaches. A youth coach that's good at talent development, a director of football that'll handle scouting and a master tactician and motivator to handle the first team...

le bert

Posted on 2 Mar, 2009 at 07:11 PM - Reply

put ferguson, mourhino, ancelotti at the head of this team, with that amount of injuried players, and tell me that they will be champions at the end of the season ! fuckin' hilarious if i was'nt concerned !
ok, he made mistake, big ones, not replace flamini and gilberto, but don't you forget that arsene wenger is not on the pitch, the players miss chances, not him...

Conor

Posted on 2 Mar, 2009 at 07:07 PM - Reply

I think this extract is something i totally disagree with. Arsene is a man who has changed not only Arsenal but the Premier League, English Football, European Football and World Football as a whole from the way the clubs run to style of football to the training facilities to the stadium to the diets etc etc etc. Wenger is a man who knows his stuff so noone has the right to judge him we are going through a tranisitional period where Wenger is buildign for the future so we have a squad together for years that can rule England, European and World football! Ive been to every game this season at home and the boos surrounding the Emirates have been targeted at the players, i have over heard conversations blaming the players and injuries, Wenger is doing what will be in a long term great success, just be patient and....
In Arsene We Trust

Terri

Posted on 2 Mar, 2009 at 06:41 PM - Reply

It is not the manager you have to look at but the highly paid players out there.
RVP keeps saying they must play better,Bentner keeps telling everyone how good he is. I have yet to see it
They ALL need to stand up and be counted, not the manager. People like you make me sick, if things are not going well you are so quick to stick the knife in, like you know anything about football
Creeps like you keep critisising do not help
So if you have nothing constructive to say keep your mouth shut and go an support another team.
The only good one this season in Man U unfortunately
so go and support then. See ya, good riddance

Dan

Posted on 2 Mar, 2009 at 06:31 PM - Reply

Unfortunatley i fully agree, every year we are taking another step back, man utd is the only game we won comfortably in the last 2 year and the fact that we, the most entertaining team in the land, are no longer fun to watch. I used ti find solace in losing in style but we no longer have style, who cares if we draw, we may as well lose, in every draw it is the opposition that have the better chances at the emirates. Wengers belief in this awful side is misplaced, the likes of denilson, song, adebayor, bentdner have proved time and time again that they suck. We keep our best players out of action even tho they are fit, rosicky cannot seriously still be injured and cesc is ready to play. Wenger has lost the plot, why the hell hasnt he bought a defensive midfielder???? it seems to me that he wants to keep building the team but he is using cheap useless bricks whilst the rest of the league are getting better. Your right, who the hell cares if we thump brom on tuesday? it only means that we will have false hope again until we play blackburn in two weeks and draw, i dont know whether or not we will even finish 5th, everton look much better than we do and in all fareness should have beaten us at goodison park. All in all, wenger must go, he is no longer a winner but an optimist with poor vision, if he stays, in 2 years it will be 10th place, then we will battle for the top half of the league, how long till relegation? somethings gotta give and unfortunatley its wenger.

Fred Shit

Posted on 2 Mar, 2009 at 06:26 PM - Reply

You got to see the very recent and very Curious Case of Benjamin Button. There is a sequence where a chain of events all fall into place to build up to what we can only perceive as an incident. Had RVPs header off that cross from the right bulged the net in the early minutes, Fulham would have been forced to come out more, and we might have won by 3. But that did not happen and we sunk, and kept sinking as the game progressed to where we kept passing the ball to a white shirt. But you can't blame one man for all that. A lot of shit has happened to us and for a lot of time. But shit happens. We need to come together, stay together and get out of it.

The way I see it is that this shit might happen for a few games more and then suddenly we will snap out of it and that might coincide with the return of one fellow from the treatment table and suddenly he will become the reason for it all.

AW has been a great great manager for us. the single biggest influence on the Arsenal ever. Let him get us out of it. give him his time. He has more than earned it. Remember, not everything has a cause and effect. Shit happens for no apparent reason too.

Shit. This has to end. Come on you Gunners.

C-M 011

Posted on 2 Mar, 2009 at 04:41 PM - Reply

Completely right. He may have done a lot for the club but his time is up. The thing is i do not see wenger getting sacked in years to come (unless Usmanov or Kroenke take over). its ridculuos the immuntiy he has a the club and it is about time the board took some control like other clubs around them!

milkyboy

Posted on 2 Mar, 2009 at 04:33 PM - Reply

certain things you say I can agree with, but how would any of these other wonder managers you seen to love have coped without four first teamers for such a long term. you question what have certain players done for us? well its pretty differcult to do anything when you are injured. yes we in a bad run but support the team when they need it your probably one of these that boos the players, just what they need. NOT

starf*cker

Posted on 2 Mar, 2009 at 03:48 PM - Reply

I agree with every single word of this article. I have been one of the impatient ones since the 2006-2007 season but the mess we're in at the moment is far more worse than anything I have ever experienced as a Gunner.

Sack Wenger at the end of the season regardless of us qualifying for the CL or not. Only a FA Cup AND a Champions League trophy could re-convince me of Wenger's abilities. And what are the odds on that happening?

Not long ago they would certainly have been a 1000 times better.

henry014

Posted on 2 Mar, 2009 at 03:34 PM - Reply

Stop critising Arsene Wenger the manager who have led the gunners to a entire season unbeaten which sir alex have not done yet and to a champions league final 2 yrs ago in paris n who have made cesc n henry frm nobody to superstars. I m too disappointed for yet another 0-0 draw which they can win easily but i still confident in wenger's men they can qualify for the CL spot or they can qualify as champions by winning the tournament. Keep faith in Wenger he will make the gunners champions again.

henry014

Posted on 2 Mar, 2009 at 03:33 PM - Reply

Stop critising Arsene Wenger the manager who have led the gunners to a entire season unbeaten which sir alex have not done yet and to a champions league final 2 yrs ago in paris n who have made cesc n henry frm nobody to superstars. I m too disappointed for yet another 0-0 draw which they can win easily but i still confident in wenger's men they can qualify for the CL spot or they can qualify as champions by winning the tournament. Keep faith in Wenger he will make the gunners champions again.

2bah

Posted on 2 Mar, 2009 at 02:34 PM - Reply

Nice, precise, coincise and very objective article.Any great team is accessed by thier performance and results based on the tactics employed by the manager.Its really disgusted that Arsene Wenger has been supported by the Board for his failure
over the years where other managers have been giving the boot for lack of performance and good results in less than 1 year (Scholari at Chelsea) some were even fired after i year the former Madrid coach while some were fired after less than 3 years former Barcelona and Inter coaches are good example.The Board as it is need to be removed and a more dynamic and purposeful driven board should be put in place.All great coaches of great clubs are constanly under pressure from their Board for great performance and good results and thats what this game is all about not really on past glory but what you can achieve based on your past expereince and results.If you do not perform you go and thats why both the Board and the Manager should go at the end of the season because they have failed the club in the last 44 years. Arsene Wenger refusal to request for money or utilize the money realised form sale of certain players to replace the players will need in certain and vital areas of the team and is sturboness of using average players has really cost us this season.He should be the first to admit his blunder rather than blaming everything else for our lack of spine and consistency.His 4 year experiment has failed woefully and i agree with you that his time has past and he should moved on from the club after this season.Its only failures that will trust in Wenger's failed,frustrated ,humilated and completely wasted 4 year experiment at the club.

Sam

Posted on 2 Mar, 2009 at 01:48 PM - Reply

Hey man! I think you're getting way too harsh on the team... it's a little short sighted in my opinion. Things are not going well for sure, and it's damn frustrating to watch the team... but how can you dismiss wenger when the whole creative staff of the team is out? We're not winning, but not losing. throw in any of rosicky, fabregas, eduardo, walcott, o give arshavin time to adapt and just imagine how things could go. We lost out last year by only a couple points, and that was with the bulk of the team present. So let's just wait. It probably won't be a succesful year in the league but w'll get champions league spot nd hopefully the FA cup.

Diegojay

Posted on 2 Mar, 2009 at 01:34 PM - Reply

Where do I start this....Fans like you, thats a good and polite way to start....You are a disgrace mate, sure things are not great at the moment, and sure there have been mistakes, but to question the ability of Arsene Wenger is a crime! Wake up a pal, we have been punching well above our weight for a long time and the only reason and I mean only reason is because of Wenger! Things are not as horrific has you describe, there have been a number of factors that have lead us to where we currently sit and yes admittedly some are down to Wenger, but no one said he was perfect.

Look at alternative to having Wenger, we would become the same as the scum in west London and those self delusional idiots just north of us, we would get sucked into the results immediately school of thought, where managers are dumped at the 1st sign of problems, The Arsenal is different to everyone else, that’s what makes us special and Wenger is the embodiment of this.

I, personally am ashamed of the booing on Sat, of course we all want results and wins and some goals would be nice, but this is just one of those unexplainable things that happens in football, it will change, suddenly we will score a hatful, it always changes, we just have to have faith.... u speak about how good we were up until 2005, haven't you realised the football worlds has changed dramatically since then and yes we are having to change too, but with very limited resources, no other manager on the planet could do what Wenger has done and still manages to do, you forget that we were on course to win the league and the Champions League last year, but for a freak leg break and disgraceful after game reaction by our Capitan at Birmingham that affected our your lions psychologically on 2 fronts and the worst non penalty in the world ever when kuyt attacked Hleb....These are the margins in this game, sometimes we get the love and sometimes we have to be patient...

Lou

Posted on 2 Mar, 2009 at 01:01 PM - Reply

The best and most accurate view of the current Arsenal that I have read for many years!

Spot on!

OneTrueFan

Posted on 2 Mar, 2009 at 12:30 PM - Reply

Completely agree - Wenger was finished as a manager when we went unbeaten. He should have buggered off to spain. can no one see that he wont bring in experienced players because he cant manage them? Thats whey were struggling. He has flooded the team with unloyal foreign kids, and turned us into a struggling uefa cup team. Adios Wenger, and good bloody riddance

hidi

Posted on 2 Mar, 2009 at 12:29 PM - Reply

I'm not an arsenal fan, I just watch them for time to time because when they want they produce some nice football to watch. I just think you forgot about all those key player that are injured (Fab, edu, Ade)... and in football except for very few exception every club has high and low. With your squad and 1 or 2 good recruit in the summer I don't think you're very far from high.

Koolkaiklan

Posted on 2 Mar, 2009 at 12:25 PM - Reply

i had been a gunner supporter for over 10 years, and also an strong advocate of wenger's leadership. But looking at the situation now, even i have begin to start doubting..

I just hope for once wenger would stop praising the team when its is clearly performing like shit, he should scold them and make them realised that they are playing for one of the top 10 clubs in the world, and their performance of late is unacceptable.

Rob

Posted on 2 Mar, 2009 at 12:06 PM - Reply

So...who would you rather have as a manager then?

Do you really think we will be sucessfull if we start to buy 'expencive' players? The only players we can afford are the ones that ManU, Chelsea, Man City, Barcelona etc etc ..dont want in their team. How are we meant to succeed with those kind of players?

So if Arsene walks...who would you have in his place? Mourinho? Never going to happen. Alex F? Never going to happen.

Try to think before you blog

/Rob

dudu

Posted on 2 Mar, 2009 at 11:45 AM - Reply

If you were blaming for something else other than scoring goals, i'd have been with you.
However i cant help but disagree with you (mind you i did not read the whole article but the 1st paragraph) - yes we have a problem with goals (sad) at the moment but we all know that thats wenger's fortress (attacking football) so to say he does not know what he's doing based on that is out of it really.

Matt

Posted on 2 Mar, 2009 at 11:25 AM - Reply

He is NOT past it! We are falling into this trap of believing the manager is at fault whenever the team don't play well and we are getting this from other clubs who chop and change managers as quick as they lose a game. I'm not saying Wenger hasn't made mistakes because he has...he shouldn't have let Flamini go, he should have goven him anything under £80,000 a week to stay. He should have bough a proper centre-back instead of faffing around with gallas and senderos over the last two seasons and lastly, he should have replaced henry with somebody capable of reaching somewhere near his quality, somebody who could partner eduardo or van persie up-front and win games on their own. He has not been lucky with the injuries we have had again this season but the players need to buck their ideas up. Arsenal have high expectations and the players think as soon as they stick an arsenal shirt on they deserve to be wearing it no matter what...not true, they have to prove themselves. Wenger will sort this out, he just has to put his foot down and stop mucking about will silly policies arsenal have.

David

Posted on 2 Mar, 2009 at 11:01 AM - Reply

It's really hard to take that Arsenal have trouble scoring a league goal whilst Man U are winning trophies lately. Wenger should be fully responsible and should step down as manager before it gets too embarrassing. He must admit that his pure youth policy doesn't work at all! This team clearly lack leadership and a winning mentality. Wenger was a good manager because of Bergkamp, Henry, Vieira, and Pires. Now he is just a good scout and economic expert at most! Can't imagine the board could sustain him that much after five trophiless seasons and five league draws in a roll, other top team managers will definitely be shown the exit already.

Yinka Junaid

Posted on 2 Mar, 2009 at 10:35 AM - Reply

Need we say more? I second your opinions brother. The old man aint got a clue any longer. He and his bunch of rudderless boys will bring us nothing but shame this season and subsequent ones if serious measures are not taken.

KKKaran

Posted on 2 Mar, 2009 at 09:52 AM - Reply

Nice article. Looks like you had a pint too many. This season can be written off now, thats for sure. But Arsene is certainly not past his use by date. Old man has still got a few tricks up his sleeves.

I hope he uses the remaining games to experiment with his team and blood some more youngsters. Just do enough to avoid relegation. Maybe we will get a few surprise performances along the way.

Sam

Posted on 2 Mar, 2009 at 08:31 AM - Reply

GREAT ARTICLE! All my feelings and fustrations are in this article. I mean, how can we not score ONE lousy goal with the likes of Van Persie, Arshavin, Nasri and Vela on the field? It must be the manager. Whilst I agree if we had had a fully fit squad this season (which will never happen again) we would 100% be in the top four, it comes down to squad depth as Manyoo proved on Sunday in the final. Squad, not team Arsene! EVERYONE knows the likes of Denilson, Diaby, Djourou, Vela etc MIGHT one day be top world class players (MIGHT), But in the here and now, they AREN'T. Fabregas was world class at 18, but these are't and they are all 20+. Wake up and smell the coffee Arsene. And finally, the refusal of the manager/board etc to sign a few quality EXPERIENCED players in midfield and at the back boggles my mind.

smith

Posted on 2 Mar, 2009 at 05:57 AM - Reply

Absolutely spot on article

Wenger has past it and we cant live in the past.

Enough of stupid excuses like the 'team has quality' and we should remove Wenger as manager(perhaps change his role to director of coaching)and bring in fresh approach!

Harsh Parmar

Posted on 2 Mar, 2009 at 05:48 AM - Reply

I agree with you to a certain extent. However, lets not forget that it was under Le Boss' reign we happened to be the invincible force in football , a couple of years back. 49 UNBEATEN was some record.

Lets not forget that we were on the brink of winning the title last year, when everyone else wrote us off at the beginning of the season.

Lets not forget that we managed to reach the final of the Carling cup one year before that and ended up losing due to tough luck.

And lets not forget that we also managed to reach the final of the Champion's league one year before that, and lost due to some poor refereeing.

If only we'd had some better luck in each of those matches, we'd be having a big collection of trophies today, and I doubt if any of us would be complaining then.

This season has been a very poor one, but we cannot conclude anything for anything can happen in football. We're still there in the Champion's league, still there in the FA cup.

In this hour of crisis, I believe that our manager and our team, need some backing from us, the fans.
Booing and cursing's only gonna ruin that tiny bit of confidence, left in our team.

Our team's young and budding, an average age of around 22 and they've showed their flashes of brilliance against the best of teams in Europe including Man Utd, A.C. Milan, Chelsea etc. You think, its easy? - beating Milan at San Siro? Beating Chelsea at Stamford Bridge? Beating Man Utd after having played 6 matches in a period of just over 2 weeks?
My good man, I say, we have an excellent set of players.
I definitely wont say that they are as good as the invincibles, but rather I'd say they are not there yet.

Of course, our team needs to demonstrate more consistency, but with all the injury woes troubling most of our players, its hard blame anyone or anything.

And so I'll conclude,

IN Arsene, WE TRUST!!

and...

GO GUNNERS!!

GS

Posted on 2 Mar, 2009 at 05:24 AM - Reply

I will support Arsene Wenger no matter what happens. We are not in a good financial position, just admit it ok? We don't have the money to spend on so many players.

Arshavin needs time to make himself mix into the squad and please never ever get rid of Wenger no matter what happens.

What we are lacked of is LUCK and confidence. Psychologically not good at the moment but we have the quality to beat any team. Denilson and Song are improving very fast, and please stop saying bad things towards them. This is only their FIRST season playing regularly.

All the young guns will only improve for the better. I'll stick with Wenger even if everyone in the world wanted him to be sacked!

Roachy

Posted on 2 Mar, 2009 at 03:27 AM - Reply

Asser, take a chill pill son and look outside the square at what is really happening in the EPL before passing such ridiculous comments.

First, more foreign billionaires own EPL clubs than ever before so dont compare past clubs and players from that era with the present.

ManU, Chelsea, Spurs, Man City, Liverpool, Newcastle, West Ham have all sold out and the list will keep growing.

With Millions of pounds at their disposal they can buy 2-3 world class players for every key position. This means that injuries have minimal effect as they have a bench of players that can come on and turn a game.

Arsenal have resisted selling out to billionaires and have taken the responsible approach to manage their financial affairs and pay their debts.

Having said this we what is the difference between this season and last season. Well lets see we lost Flamini (arsene trusted him and got stabbed in the back) and Hleb wanted warmer climate. Wenger bought Nasri and Bischoff. This year however we have had a nasty run of long term injuries...Rosicky, Eduardo, Abedayor, Fabregas, Diaby, Walcott. All skilled first choice attacking options. (not to mention Silvestre and Bischoff)

What more evidence do you want Asser. And your response to this dilemma is to sack the coach??...give me a break.

GunnerSG

Posted on 2 Mar, 2009 at 03:14 AM - Reply

Wenger has stated his project is a long term one for quite a few seasons now, so I see no point in complaining. His biggest enemy now is his own success, he has given us the fans the taste of not just success, a classy success. As fans its down to whether you want to get behind the team at one of their toughest points or stand aside and go on complaining about the manager and players.

Mos

Posted on 2 Mar, 2009 at 02:01 AM - Reply

I totally agree, i have been saying this all season. Wenger was a great manager and achieved great things but its time for a him to go now and if it means some of the players (fabregas,van persia,nasri,etc) leavin then so be it. Dont get me wrong because i Fabregas but his not irreplaceable, nobody is. When Vieira left most fans, including myself tought it was over but along came the little spaniard. So should Fabregas decide to follow Wenger if he gets sacked then a new manager with new ideas and new players would come in and Fabregas will be replaced and thats the way it is. I know the club have not won a trophy since Vieira has left but i dont think thats down to him leaving, i beleive its because EVERY experienced player we had have left. Most of whome (gilberto,pires,lehmann) did not want to leave the club but were sold by the manager for various stupid reasons i.e players over 30's contracts. For example, players like Pires who was and will remain a legend for the club was not given a two year contract just because they were over 30. When he was one of the best midfielders in europe and all the top clubs were chasing him he remained loyal to us but we could not return the loyalty by offering him the contract he desired. This is all down to the managers stupidity, look at Ferguson and the faith he has shown to his older players(giggs,scholes,neville), i know they are great players but it seems as if their getting better with age. This clearly shows, that just because a player is over thirty it dosnt mean they are finished and should be replaced with a bunch of 15-16 year olds. So what im trying to say is that Wenger made all this happen. If these young players had a few experienced heads to learn from then they could be champions as the quality is there but Mr Wengers arrogance has destroyed our team as he seems to think he can win everything with this young team who have not even won a single trophy together.

David

Posted on 2 Mar, 2009 at 12:25 AM - Reply

I totally agree with you! Wenger has no clue at all after so many scoreless draws, and players might send out a message that they want him out! He couldn't motivate them, didn't have a plan B, made wrong decisions... Just how long do we have to suffer before he gets fired? Why on earth did he bring in so many teenagers when Man U was winning trophies while still buying big names like Hargreeves, Anderson, Nani, Berbatov, Tevez... These kids will probably leave before they can win things for us. For those players who think they play for the manager, please just go. It's us fans who pay you to perform for the club, and no one is bigger than the club. Definitely not Wenger! Sack him, PLEASE!

Arsenal

Posted on 2 Mar, 2009 at 12:10 AM - Reply

With all the respect to you ,, just listen to your self , you are just frustrated and bashing the old man ,, actually i am frustrated too but what can i say more than it was just mere luck that saved fulham if you look at how many chances we got , not that i dont agree of the losses we had befor surprisengly but still every great club have its moments ,, lets not forget the four years for ferguson when he didnt achieve anything and still people asked for his head and even said that he is starting to go nuts with age ...
but look now , where is he standing .. and you know why !!!!!!! because THE BOARD TRUSTED HIM , just as simple as that and the more you suffer the stronger and more experience you will get and grow ,, and of course you can see how injuries affected us but still last season was nearly perfect and that proves some of his insanity was right and i would say mostly ,, and i admint how angry i was and every one was when we didnt strengthen the squad by getting new players in the team but still we dont know much about managing like he does or all managers do ,, i still remember most of the players we baught recenylt were laughed at but look at them now ,, no one can question Arsene Wengers ability to deiscover and develop skills and plus every great managers have thiere mistakes , actually two managers only and thats Wenger and ferguson ,, of course i would never compare jose mour to Wenger or at least every body ,, actually who is mourinho ,, NOTHING ..
only capable of managing teams with loads of cash and players and if you think of it ,, imagine him managing a team like wigan or villa or spurs or even wba , can he really do something or even discover or develop talent ,, i dont think so ...
and lets not talk about his champoins league trophy because everybody knows that was one of the worst years for the champoins plus the last match was funny due to a red card and some wierd stuff happened that day but still history will right it under his name , but actually i would never compare the likes of mourinho to wnger or ferguson or capello ,, its really hard but you just need to have faith and wait just like united did ,, maybe they didnt have faith but they sure waited wether they liked it or not ,, i dont care much about this season cause its over really ,, but what i saw from a very young and promising team makes want to wait lets not forget about our injured players when they come back and maybe we would buy new players im just sure that next season we will rock every ones world just like we usually did and will do ...
Just kee the Faith .

Rubicus

Posted on 1 Mar, 2009 at 11:54 PM - Reply

Football is a subtle game my son, we will return to the top in time

Vinny - Glasgow Gooner

Posted on 1 Mar, 2009 at 08:56 PM - Reply

Hi Asser

Its clear you have thought about this a fair whack, and I'll never knock anyone for having an opinion, but who would replace Wenger...? What level of manager would view the club as a whole and not just a fairly talented but misfiring first team? i dont know enough about the ins and outs of the organisation to have enough confidence that we arent just going through possibly the poorest season since Arsene arrived back in '96.

I remember reading various internet and newspaper articles about the Mancs wanting rid of Fergie back in 04/05 and 05/06 saying he was past it and didnt have a clue. Unfortunately, they're doing ok at the moment after living through the 2 crap seasons. I know you've said its 5 since we won something but the Champ Lge final was fairly special and we have some real exciting players coming through. i;m clearly a Wenger fan as I believe we have shown the right way to go about a managerial appointment is give the guy carte blanche over a long period of time (an idea we successfully borrowed from Man U).

So who would you want in to replace Wenger, surely not TA?

Disillusioned Gooner

Posted on 1 Mar, 2009 at 08:27 PM - Reply

To all true Arsenal fans out there, let's start a petition tp get Wenger out. The results speak for themselves; weren't we supposed to improve on pour performance last season? instead we have retrogressed; 16 points behind by February. I know a lot of fans out there would say we were unlucky with injuries, my answer to that is look at everton. They have had injury problems this season too, playing without main strikers yet only 2 points behind us. AW has to stop the rot or he goes.

ched

Posted on 1 Mar, 2009 at 08:06 PM - Reply

We have so many players out and how many other teams could do with out the players we do apart from man u. CALL ME MAD But with the players coming back we might just win cl as no one thinks we have a hope.Lets get behind the boys and the boss till the end of season

Stephen Pearson

Posted on 1 Mar, 2009 at 07:28 PM - Reply

True we have had injuries but this is the poorest team I have seen since I started to watch Arsenal as a 7 year old in 1959. Why is Van Persie such a hero he missed two great chances against Fulham, another against Sunderland You will not win the league with a player who at best will score 12 - 15 league goals a year. Song, Bendtner, Eboue, all have to go A world class centre half needs to be bought and a strapping ball winning midfiuelder need to be bought who can also play a bit.

Joe Richardson

Posted on 1 Mar, 2009 at 07:05 PM - Reply

Are you kidding? Who else can we get in? I don't think we could get another manager that could take us to success and attract big name players. If we were being out played, were under spurs and had a number of overrated players hitting 30 years old than I'd understand. Changing Wenger would only make us as a team suffer, Hell look at Tottenham and Chelsea and their large manager count in the last few season, what have they done that could really count as a success recently. I would have thought that the bloggers on this page would understand that and I'm actually shocked that this blog has been posted by an Arsenal fan.

Watching at the Emirates for the past few weeks we have been dominating, fair enough we haven't won or scored but you can tell that the team is getting better, and thats without some big injuries. With the likes of Theo, Cesc, Eduardo all playing I could guarantee that we would be winning, and by big margins. It can be frustrating, sure, but is that not the life of an Arsenal fan?

Soon as we find that scoring edge we'll be hitting the heights that a lot of us Arsenal fans desire, but until then we need to stick behind the team. Booing at the end of a great Arsenal performance, but goalless draw sickens me to my stomach.

This season hasn't been what any of us wanted or had hoped for but a strong end to the season can lift us to champions league spot and maybe even win the FA Cup (or maybe Champions League).

Ooo to be a Gooner!

morgao

Posted on 1 Mar, 2009 at 07:05 PM - Reply

Wenger has never been able to win games. Its players that win games and we have too many at the moment who seem unable to close out matches Wenger is absolutely not past it. Have faith.

ross

Posted on 1 Mar, 2009 at 06:58 PM - Reply

i think you have some valid points but i think you are mad to think aw is past it, he has helped change the face of the premier league let alone arsenal. before he arrived at arsenal when everyone was saying arsene who? what had we done before that yes we won a few trophies here and there but except from way back in the day ie the chapman years and other such periods we had not really won alot of silverware. In the 80s arsenal were not the dominant force they have been recently, under aw if we have not won a trophy we have always finished in the top 4 and quite often the top 2 in the 80s and also the early 90s we were finishing mid table. under aw we have been in the champs league every season and brought some of the most exciting football ever seen and who can forget the invincibles. yes he has made some bad decisions this season ie not replacing flamini and gilberto but he has also lost some very very important players thru injuries which if that happened to any other team and manager would also damage them if man u lost rooney, ronaldo, carrick, giggs, berbatov for a long period im sure that would effect them like it has effected us ie eduardo, fabs, rosicky, wallcott, adebayor of whom should be enable us to score more goals esspecially eduardo i dont think people realise how many goals this guy will score in the prem i have so much faith in him. so all this does not help aw like i say he has made mistakes but so did fergusan a while back now look at man u. so lets just get behind the team stop all the sick booing that seems to be happening after each game by fake supporters who should be ashamed of themselves, when we we get to full strength things will change i just hope its not too late

MAD GOONER

Posted on 1 Mar, 2009 at 06:25 PM - Reply

THE BOARD WILL REALISE THAT WENGER IS PAST IT WHEN YOU REALISE THAT YOU'RE TALKING SPAFF!

Why is this site so negative? - Wenger is a LEGEND! There is NO manager on this planet that could replace him. I suppose all you plastics would want that pikey mourinho to come to Arsenal?! Forget it..... WENGER ALWAYS No.1 !!
Nuff Said!

Habu Balteh

Posted on 1 Mar, 2009 at 06:20 PM - Reply

I agree with you Ghozlan in toto. Wenger is suffering from self delusion and has long pass his prime when it comes to football ideas. He have been fooled all along by the past media praise of him that he is excellent in terms of raising young players. But what he forgot is that, we were used to seeing his toddlers in the past play in carling cup and subsequently FA cup; all trophiless. Now what on earth makes him believe that these same mediocres can win on the big stage(premier league)? The future which he think he's building will never remember how skillful and remarkable these so called young players play without winning anything,rather it will recall how Arsenal fc witnessed long years silverware drought necessitated by his managerial ineptitude...

billp79

Posted on 1 Mar, 2009 at 05:23 PM - Reply

11 leaders....
time for the whip
5 of next 5 is all that is acceptable now.

creggangooner

Posted on 1 Mar, 2009 at 03:59 PM - Reply

i have to agree the way it seem,s to me the more people tell wenger what the more stubborn he gets regardless of results or fans feelings he,ll say he shouldn,t listen to so called experts but what about us the fans !!!!!

irish gunner

Posted on 1 Mar, 2009 at 03:59 PM - Reply

how are people so quick to forget what this man has done for arsenal. How is he past it get a grip will ya. This man is the most committed and work horse you could get. I believe he gives his all for arsenal. The people to blame are the likes of van persie like how many chances does it take him to score. The other problem are narrow minded people who call for the managers head and boo the players as soon as anything goes wrong.

Neil

Posted on 1 Mar, 2009 at 03:57 PM - Reply

If we hadn't made the champions league final a few years ago, wenger would have gone before now - the inflexible way we were playing at the time allowed teams to know what to expect from us. But the fact that we played 4-5-1 showed that wenger is able to change the team to suit the opposition, even if was always the same change.

Since then the team has gotten slightly worse in almost every position who would you rather have:
Gallas or Campbell
Rosicky or Pires
Nasri/Helb or Ljungberg
Song or gilberto (or even flamini)
Adebayor or Henry (although I think a fit eduardo is now first choice, but still no henry)
Van Persie or Bergkamp

Wenger still wants to play 'wengerball', but to play sexy football you need top class players, and we don't anymore. He is still playing the tactics that suited our best ever team with players who simply don't compare. It is no good saying that we are building for the future if we slide down the table while doing so, and loose all our best players - we won't be able to attract any top players to replace them, and we will slide farther.

I think wenger would be a great director of football - running the scouting, instilling a philosophy in the club, but leave the day-to-day running of the team to someone who knows how to adapt to changing circumstances, someone who is willing to buy a player for now (that is why I think he rushed into buying arshavin - he wanted to prove he can buy players for the present) It is a shame that this would not be possible, as he would never be able to let go and would keep interfering with the manager.

It would be a shame for our most successful manager to go out on a low, but like you say 'The past is in the past, for the record books, and for the good moments of nostalgia.'

Wenger Jnr

Posted on 1 Mar, 2009 at 03:38 PM - Reply

I think u shouldnt be allowed to write blogs anymore. Simple. Because i'd hate to see u even remotely upbeat WHEN results turn for the better. Go join Wigan or turn to Basketball all together or go do somethin better

dave

Posted on 1 Mar, 2009 at 03:23 PM - Reply

Say what you will but this really is it now, Arsène Wenger officially does not quite know what he is doing.
Really, that's officially, he does not QUITE know what he is doing. Maybe he knows exactly what he is doing, a difficult job where some fans expect everything, whilst the truth is they can't have it.

MacM

Posted on 1 Mar, 2009 at 02:57 PM - Reply

Your arrogance knows no bounds! Fine, if you're not happy with old Arsey then you're entitled to say so, but your pathetic digs at the honest, hard-working sides who put up strong performances against the Arsenal 'stars' only serve to underline your pomposity. I would not expect my team to role over for anyone, especially those sides / fans who think they have a devine right to win against 'lesser' teams. Get over it!

ayda

Posted on 1 Mar, 2009 at 02:43 PM - Reply

At last someone said what i was trying to say.
How can you compete in the top league in the world with the likes of danilson,eboue,song....
how can anyone in their right mind say that these are great players.

Pete

Posted on 1 Mar, 2009 at 02:25 PM - Reply

Lots of people want Wenger out per all the knee-jerk articles published recently across the web - but I very rarely see any alternatives put forward.

Why is that?

Mister J

Posted on 1 Mar, 2009 at 02:11 PM - Reply

I aint an Arsenal fan but I miss the way they used to play. I hate United and want other teams to be able to whallop them which is not gonna happen this season or the next for that matter because no one else seems good enough. It is becoming a one team league with United miles ahead of everyone.

billp79

Posted on 1 Mar, 2009 at 01:48 PM - Reply

while i like the fact that some pressure should be put onto Arsene (he is stubborn). I don't think you can yet call him incompetent. The team has been struck by the injury bug. I have heard big things about Ashivan, but what I have seen so far realy depresses me. I think SAF hit it spot on- we already have a number of players like Ashy, so why pick up another a few inches shorter (which as we can now see is problematic in getting the ball down onto his feet).
We need another fighter in the middle...Diaby, Denilson and Song all look over their heads, and day to day....no consistency.
also,
Now we run into the problem where our star players will be demanding equal weekly shares...

Femi

Posted on 1 Mar, 2009 at 01:21 PM - Reply

More eyes are beginning to be opened. That's good.

Valdet

Posted on 1 Mar, 2009 at 01:05 PM - Reply

Perfectly sums up everything that I have been feeling over this season. Top read.

Paul B

Posted on 1 Mar, 2009 at 12:56 PM - Reply

It's fans like you that are embarrassing, still in the FA Cup and CL, season not over yet but you wave the white flag, do you know what true support is, it's posts like this that make all our rivals laugh at us for being fairweather fans, you are a disgrace and should not call your self an Arsenal fan.I bet you agree with the booing, PATHETIC

tom the gunner

Posted on 1 Mar, 2009 at 12:37 PM - Reply

as soon as i saw your title i stopped reading. you dont know anythng about football. the answer to a problem in football isnt just chuck out your manager.

Alistair

Posted on 1 Mar, 2009 at 12:15 PM - Reply

Thats all well and good that Wenger hasnt built a replacement squad and has reduced Arsenal to a mid table mess, but it wasnt much better before he arrived even with the likes of Bergkamp, Adams, Wright etc. Those guys absolutely loved the club but couldnt make a serious title challlenge once Graham left.
I think wenger's biggest mistake has been getting rid of all the experience in the sqaud and with a team of youngsters confidence is even more fickle with such expectations. Most of the team has little if any international time (even Cesc) and basically there is more pressure on games you should win which the lads cant deal with. That is wegners fault only because he hasnt got a man on the pitch who can properly calm and enthuse the kids (Gallas, Manuel and Ade certainly cant), Cesc can on his day but there is no reliable babysitter for lack of a better word to pick up the players not doing well and chill out the ones who try too many moves. One or 2 of those in the summer could change our fortunes. It isnt our inherant right to be in the champs league, and the kids need a bloody awful season to give them that reality check. Same old record to finish with but injuries have robbed us of a lot of creativity and having those 5-6 players all year round would give a different result.

keiron

Posted on 1 Mar, 2009 at 12:04 PM - Reply

Where were Arsenal before Wenger tock over? Going nowhere and playing boring football. And now we are at a brand new stadium and have a host of young talent.
We have been seriously unlucky this year to suffer some serious long term injuries which would have adversely affected any of the so called big clubs. Yes we are all disappointed but the season is not over yet and we may still win 2 trophies!
Stop acting like a spoilt child and accept that no one has a right to success.
Get behind the team and give them your full support and then lets see where we end up.

george johnson

Posted on 1 Mar, 2009 at 11:43 AM - Reply

I understand what your saying mate but you sonud more like a fan than a supporter....so we have gone five years without a trophy, so what mate.
Dont loose faith in the overall plan of what wenger has envisioned for the club.
yeah things seem bleak but it is not the end of the world for the club. i can see the club developing and as long as it is developing then i have no problem. yeah i might get upset but who would you have come replace the great one?? you FANS want instant things and sometime forget about the game itself and winning is great but the ARSENAL way of doing things should be appreciated more. ARSENE has made as a world club not just a british club.
Have faith and remember that we ARE the ARSENAL and WE support the club through good times and bad times.
BE A SUPPORTER NOT A fan!!

raijanni

Posted on 1 Mar, 2009 at 10:45 AM - Reply

i want to add,that it takes great patience as a coach to build a team.trust me it isnt easy as we outsiders think so.its such a thankless job.we dnt have resources or money like oter clubs or even a club lik tottys,n then also there arent good players available.what arsene wenger has done it incredible n we asking for his head at first sign of failure,its like rats abandoning a ship at first sign of water.think bout it,he cud have gone to real madrid or any other club,they have been after him so many years.lot of us have already given up,come on we expect players to fight till end,but wat bout us,matches r still not over n majority of ur r thinking we will not make it,ok its difficult,but it can be done.and even if we dnt make it to champions league this year i wud love arsene wenegr to be manager next year as well.i am looking for long term rather than short term.any manager or player who is loyal to club is worth his weight in gold,cause there arent many around

Aaron

Posted on 1 Mar, 2009 at 10:16 AM - Reply

You pissed off like the rest of us. But RVP, Cesc, and Theo are the future of the club. Let them walk? Dont think so. 5 Years is a long time, but put your money on thropies coming out way in the next 2 seasons.

Youngun

Posted on 1 Mar, 2009 at 10:11 AM - Reply

Well said mate. I can't even watch games anymore because I know what the results are going to be. And if we do win one game we cannot continue with it. Consistency has gone completley out of the window. The players are too blame too. Some of them are simply not good enough and others show lack of determination and heart. The only players I excuse this season are Asharvin, Vela and Nasri because its their first season. Nasri has been decent. The rest really don't have much excuse to be honest.

LUCKYFRANK

Posted on 1 Mar, 2009 at 09:46 AM - Reply

Spot on Asser ive being preaching alot of what you said for the last year on the forums ang get lambasted for it some people unfornetly worship wenger more than the club and they will never change

Stilol though if he delivers us the CL 'doubt it' ill happily look like a fool but at the moment the only fool is wenger

Krishna

Posted on 1 Mar, 2009 at 09:34 AM - Reply

I m sorry but I don't agree with you at all. You r frustrated ( myself too ) and you r not looking bigger picture. You can't always blame manager for everything. Ofcourse he has made some mistakes but u also need to look at board and players as well. I still trust wenger not for this season, but for next season.

Kenzy

Posted on 1 Mar, 2009 at 09:23 AM - Reply

i think wenger is a good manager but he hasn't got the right players ,it's unbeleivable he banked on players like carlos vela ,bendtner ,diaby ,song ,denilson to achieve something ,they are all average players and have nothing to offer to the club ,i don't think there is any manager who can acheive something great with these players playing firsting football in his team
the arsenal team of today is a shadow of the arsenal team in the past ,the team of today is foolof young players who without doubt ate talented but lack intelligence and have poor decision making without this 2 things you can't play against stubborn opposition and win ,so i think the boss just needs to look for a way to get rid of all these average players and bring in more intelligent and matured players

Olly King

Posted on 1 Mar, 2009 at 08:43 AM - Reply

Spot on matey! I've been telling friends for a couple of years now that this guy should go. The guy is clueless. Unfortunately, some in the media have turned him into a demi-god! Hence the spineless Arsenal board dare not go against the media, by getting rid of him, in-case the latter turn the fans against them!
Talking of Walcott, Wenger underused the guy! Claiming he want's to protect him! I strongly believe he has managed to set the boy back a couple of years. If Fergie had done that to Rooney, where would Rooney be now? Remember that Michael Owen and Rooney were effectively spear-heading attacks at their clubs by the time they were 17, 18 years old!
Wenger out! Now!

SA Gunner

Posted on 1 Mar, 2009 at 08:30 AM - Reply

I refuse to read this rubbish, who the hell are you to oust a manager who has done so much for this club? Do you forget that we have Fabregas, Rosicky, Walcott, Eduardo, Adebayor all out of contention? Secondly why are you not looking at the players on the park as well as Wenger? Is it Arsene that misses the great chances which are created on the park? If you cannot write sensible articles please refrain from sitting in front of a computer keyboard. Arsene Wenger is to blame for not buying key players and establishing a rotation policy. But look again at the football we play and how many goals we could have scored had we TAKEN those chances. This hunk of crap you have put together makes me want to petition for you to be PERMANENTLY removed.

Salman ali al-Jalahma

Posted on 1 Mar, 2009 at 08:27 AM - Reply

I Totaly agree with you mate, realy nice article but to be honest players like song, bentner, almunia, dijoro, should never ever wear arsenal shirt. and arsenal club ATM is a BUSINESS club more the football club. even the DEAD WOOD ( peter hill wood ) said if we didnt cualify to the champions leage... as it wont be a disaster we will only lose the money !! he never think which way to get more trophies for the 60,000 people paying 40 pound to watch and support arsenal. at the moment i am sick from watching arsenal for the 4th years failing to win something AND I AM SICK WATCHING arsenal selling our worldclass players, face the true and lets say arsenal atm is nothing else then a club who produce player to sell NOTHING ELSE!!! ( Arsene said Almunia is a worldclass goal keeper ) MUHAHAHA he is out of his mind ( he also added bentner has a bright future ) MUHAHAHA i Swair to my god that i am totaly better player then bentner. and if i played the games he had this season i will score atleast 10 goal and thats if i was abit blind!.
the thing is i am afraid we can reach the Uefa cup cuz seems like we are going 7th or 8th or evenin the midtable. holy shit this is totaly unbelievable.

kb

Posted on 1 Mar, 2009 at 08:04 AM - Reply

I am a great fan of Arsene Wenger; but as a passionate Arsenal fan, it hurts to find the team in such a mess. I have always been denying criticism aagainst Arsene but I hate to say that the comment made by Asser seems to be realistic. I also feel that he needs to change his assistant, which may be very difficult thing to do as a manager, but if u r truly loyal to Arsenal, something needs to be done.

Iqbal

Posted on 1 Mar, 2009 at 07:32 AM - Reply

Emotional but in the main, I agree with you mate. But the question remains, do we REALLY REALLY have the guts to show Wenger the door? Secretly, most fans and the Board too are afraid to give him the boot for fear that we may be making a huge mistake (given his past record). Also for sure, Wenger won't be short of suitors if we get rid of him.
As much as we are sick of the current situation, in an ideal world, we would like Arsene to listen to us and change his methods...but we would still have him, won't we? Sadly yes I would suggest.

useroz

Posted on 1 Mar, 2009 at 06:13 AM - Reply

Well, you are angry and you are not wrong. I am as angry though alarmingly it's lesss so than we drew last (and the one before (and the one before that))... actually, it's sickening.

So what's sickening? Seeing 'matured' lesser quality players overran our young, energetic, talented, spirited and 'class' MF players... what the hell was Denilson and Diaby walking/ jogging behind Fullham players and not dare to get close? It's also embarassing...

Our FBs also happened to play poorly (incidentally until Eboue came on!). But then, even if they'd managed to get in a position to cross quickly, what good was it when there were hardly any souls (Arsenal ones) in the box!

Why were our 'attacking' MF (as we were told they couldn't defend, so it must have been an attacking one, unless they are crap) always stay far from the box. Other teams would have parked half dozen in/around the box and pressed like hell for a goal in the 2nd half... not us, we stayed away and passed?!

Vela had few clues and not passed the rather ordinary RB even once... that's okay if he made up his mind and shot a few... but no. I feel talented players who actually know how to shoot would simply lose their shooting abilities after joining Arsenal. Look at Nasri, Vela? I hope it's a case of 'old' habits die hard for Arshavin, and he'd still want to shoot no matter what the rest of his team mates do!

Horrible weekend.

Noel

Posted on 1 Mar, 2009 at 05:52 AM - Reply

hey pal
just relax.
you wanna sack the gaffer?
find a better replacement first.

Fishchip

Posted on 1 Mar, 2009 at 05:20 AM - Reply

You didn't see the vid of le Boss almost tearing his hair out this afternoon? How many gimmes did RVP miss today? I love him to death but I mean, come on, he should have had two, maybe three. You cannot magically direct a player's head to the correct angle to score properly when you're the bench boss. It's just not possible. This was a winnable game. We had the chances. Vela started, like everyone wanted, and... you can't go blaming the boss for starting the peoples' choice.

At some point or another it has to come down to the players on the pitch. Wenger can't score goals. He can only pick players who score them. Everyone was fawning over RVP the past few weeks -- today he misses a bunch of gimmes. Fuck, shouldn't have started van Persie, now, should he! What an idiot Wenger is! Why didn't he start Adebayor!

This isn't a Wenger defense. It's just... man, that was pretty harsh. We had our chances out there today, and we didn't capitalise. Peple wanted to see Vela start -- they saw him start. They wanted to see Bendtner -- they saw him. And we still drew.

At some point the accountability has to rest on the players. I thought Arshavin had a great game. Diaby, pretty good, Eboue, damn good for a sub, he really had his heart in it today. And I usually dislike Eboue. But if you keep missing gimme goals... (RVP, I'm glaring at you) how can you expect to win? By the coach opening a magical can of EXTRA SKEELZ that he sprinkles on his players?

This bunch of Arseholes has to find it in themselves to stop screwing up, stop giving away those rotten offsides and start scoring the goals they should be utterly burying.

sad gooner

Posted on 1 Mar, 2009 at 04:57 AM - Reply

spot on, today was a disgrace. We are a mid table side, we don't scare anyone. Wenger is in lala land with his signings - stop signing short guys that can't hold on to the ball. We need some tough players that scare people, and strikers that know where the goal is.

YON

Posted on 1 Mar, 2009 at 04:54 AM - Reply

This is a desperate post! Know this.... if Wenger goes then you better find yourself a new owner. No other manager can survive with his resources. We are a top 4 club with the 3rd largest revenue in the world but with the spending budget that is even less than Sunderland, Spurs and Newcastle. You have no divine right to be in the top 4 and until you realize that you wouldn't even be angry like this if it weren't for Wengers previous success. He didn't manage the transition from the Flamini/Hleb team to the current one nicely but he has also been hit by major injuries. Take a chill pill and relax.

Clsmooth391

Posted on 1 Mar, 2009 at 04:27 AM - Reply

The board may be to blame even more than Wenger if they've denied him funds to strengthen. I would love to see them kicked out as they seem more than happy with mediocrity.

Harribo Gunner

Posted on 1 Mar, 2009 at 04:10 AM - Reply

Excellent article, Wenger has become so bereft of ideas and only stuck on his idea of youth that he is dragging the team down. I don't care who comes in, but as you said no one is irreplaceable and that applies to Wenger. He is simply not producing the goods and we ar ein danger of finishing outside the top 6!!!

Wenger must go, NOW!

NickTheGooner

Posted on 1 Mar, 2009 at 03:41 AM - Reply

mate honestly go support somebody else people like you just make things worse. watch every single games highlights for these past games and every time the camera cuts to the crowd with fab, ade, rosicky, walcott all sat next to each other and EVERY time the commentator, no matter who it is, says wow look at all that talent the have to come back yet.

anybody would struggle with 4 of their MAIN creative players missing.

justinmitchell

Posted on 1 Mar, 2009 at 03:03 AM - Reply

By Wednesday we will be in 6th place.

Anyone think the board will wake up then?

siddhant das

Posted on 1 Mar, 2009 at 02:09 AM - Reply

i agree with you mate. 5 pts out of a possible 15 in the most crucial stages of the season is for a pussy team!!!!!! something needs to be done and done soon.... but whatever happens please do not become an arsenal hater.....peace.

afriX

Posted on 1 Mar, 2009 at 01:57 AM - Reply

wenger lost the plot a long time ago when he decided 2 replace world cup winning players who were a spine of his team with supposedly world class youngsters,basically his youngsters r not developing fast enough & stubborn wenger is refusing 2 address that problem. Also I doubt these youngsters will blossom 2 world class players because their attitude simply sucks. Question is how long will the fans put up with wenger? Personally I've wanted him out 3 yrs ago coz I could see where his strategy was goin but didn't think it would b this bad!

Cro gooner

Posted on 1 Mar, 2009 at 01:29 AM - Reply

What has happened is very sad, but the display today was in no way worse than most of the last 15 games we've played, or the hole season for that matter.

The last 10 mins did show that even the players don't believe they have what it takes anymore, even
Wenger seems to finally have realized that the team is missing some key factors, loosing his temper at the end.

This is what happens when you push your luck to far, setting up unrealistic goals for this very very yong squad. It has hit back on them, and their development for sure.

a battle can be lost before even started, just as our PL challenge, it was obvious we did not have the quality for it, not even in the first 11.

How on earth can replacing Flamini/gilberto/Hleb with Song/Denilson/Diaby, lead to us outperform results achieved by flamini & co? This is what AW declared as realistic.

It is good to push people to outperform, but it has to be atleast somewhat realistic goals, it is sad to see AW lacking the ability to accept reality and act upon it. If it is true the board didnt have money(preseason), then AW has done a fantastic job tryin keeping the spirit up. but I really doubt it is case.

A couple of weeks ago I wrote that we are very likelly to finish sixth this year, but deep in side a voice still said no. That little voice has now packed his bags.

Adeks,LAUTECH_Nigeria

Posted on 1 Mar, 2009 at 01:06 AM - Reply

U r definitely right! No true gooner in his right senses wd attempt 2 bash u bcos success is not success until it is sustained. It's only a wake up call. I only wonder if d board members watch our goaless n boring matches, n if they really love football or are just there to declare d profits at d expense of d fans' satisfactn. God help redeem the Great ARSENAL

paul.

Posted on 1 Mar, 2009 at 12:50 AM - Reply

you have just put into words what i have been thinking all along,its time he made the right choices and make the best of this team they are perectlty capable of wining every game ,i support your comments 100% my freind .

get over it

Posted on 1 Mar, 2009 at 12:40 AM - Reply

I appreciate your frustration and can see aswell as you the facts but actually agree very little with your opinions, wenger is still one of the greatest managers on the planet and you would be hard pressed to find any replacement for him at arsenal. Although I concede that our curent team are undeniably failing to deliver and will clearly not have this fully resolved before the end of the season, I have seen enormous improvement and development in the stature and playing ability of a number of the young pro's working in the team over this debacle of a season which can only give enormous hope for the future. Another 'transitional' season was the last thing any of us wanted for our dear club, but the situation and climate for football is as-is. We will come good in the end but only if you continue to support and believe, thru good times... and bad

The ski

Posted on 1 Mar, 2009 at 12:26 AM - Reply

Wenger knows more than u! look at our team, we have quality players in arshavin,fabregas,nasri,van persie,walcott,eduardo,rosicky,ade,vela,ramsey,wilshire,sagna,clichy,gallas.Its when all these players are fit and fighting for the first 11 will u see the true quality come through. our attacking players are all very clever footballers. our fullbacks are world class. one world class centre half and one defensive midfielder is all thats is needed!!..not a new manager!! look at how arsenal football club is run, I mean really have a look and you will come to find that wenger has done is nothing short of a miracle!! the seeds have been sown now just sit back and watch it blossom!!..even if a new manager came in all thats before him will be wengers team and philosphy which is thankfully engraved into the club!!

Joel

Posted on 1 Mar, 2009 at 12:17 AM - Reply

This is possibly the most fickle blog I have ever read. Do yourself (and every other true Arsenal fan) a favour: sell your season ticket and start to support Man United! You take the good and bad as a fan and this is something you are not capable of understanding. How come you believe we have a divine right to win trophies every season? Yes, we had a good period and now it looks grim but the club would benefit more if negative fans like yourself actually got behind the team. Who knows, maybe we could then actually help lift the team, instill some confidence and get back to some winning ways. Your negativity is not needed! Stay at home and please stop embarrassing yourself by publishing such ill-thought articles on this site!!!

Seb

Posted on 1 Mar, 2009 at 12:04 AM - Reply

AW won trophies in the past with players who had been taught how to win BY OTHER MANAGERS. It's as simple as that.

Seaman
Dixon
Winterburn
Adams
Bould
Keown
Parlour
Overmars
Bergkamp
Wright
Lehmann
Campbell
Lauren
Pires
Gilberto
Ljungberg
Henry

All either already winners with previous managers or clubs, or champions in their own mind. Now he has a bunch of rookies who don't know the first thing about winning things, and he doesn't know how to teach them it either. We need even more experienced heads in the squad if we are going to taste success again in the next few years.

Mattin Biglari

Posted on 28 Feb, 2009 at 11:50 PM - Reply

Completely agree with you, great and honest article! Clough took Forest down... no one is good forever. The transfer policy he has adopted over the last 4 years does not suit the Premier League. We're more injury prone than other teams for a reason! Can't see us coming ahead of Everton. The board needs a shake up and Wenger to needs to wake up!

Dav

Posted on 28 Feb, 2009 at 11:48 PM - Reply

Got to admit your right, as much as its painful to admit even the most ostrich like 'Wenger Knows' style fan must admit theres something seriously amiss at the Groove.
Anyone could clearly see during the summer we were going to be seriously lacking in central midfield. Diaby, Song and Denilson were never likely to be adequate for a team with champions league aspirations and sadly they've prooved both poor technically and poor effort wise. I don't think in 15 years of following the Arsenal i've seen lazier players than Diaby and Song.
Wengers continuing insistence of picking the most senior 11 players as opposed to giving players like Gibbs, Wilshire and Vela a chance when they were playing well has probably destroyed their confidence. And his continual support of Eboue is just baffling.
Finally why he's signed yet another small, skillful, winger/attacking mid when we already have plenty with Rosicky / Fabreagas / Walcott / Eduardo due to come back and Vela and Wilshire looking good prospects is also confusing. Surely the £15million would have been better spent on a Veloso or Barry???

Aysun

Posted on 28 Feb, 2009 at 11:46 PM - Reply

You are wrong. Those last four games could have been easily finished 1-0 if one of those many chances were converted. It is not Wenger's fault that shots were being blocked by the goal posts! The board is doing the right thing to support the boss. We will find our winning streak on Tuesday and afterwards, I am just optimistic, all those injured ones will be back and the business as usual!

peter

Posted on 28 Feb, 2009 at 11:40 PM - Reply

your article is shameful. i read half and could not go on. this is a bad spell. i will be waiting for your article a year from now in which you will take back almost all of the conclusions you have come to here.

Steve lockwood

Posted on 28 Feb, 2009 at 11:20 PM - Reply

A very fair assessment of the present decline under AW's leadership. I like most supporters was under his spell. The turning point for me was the summer transfer period with the release of influential players and arrogant refusal to strengthen the squad adequately. His PR spin doctoring as been an ever increasing embarassment and maybe reminiscent of a general in a state of denial even though is troops are being slaughtered on the battlefield. I blame equally the board for there weak management. The cost of this is going to be significant.

chris

Posted on 28 Feb, 2009 at 11:07 PM - Reply

brilliant article...EXACTLY what i am thinking, i am glad that someone has written the article that every arsenal reaslist wants

jason

Posted on 28 Feb, 2009 at 10:55 PM - Reply

I must start by saying , I don't go to many games. I suppose that makes me an arsenal follower rather than a supporter.
But it still hurts. It hurts to see that not only do the team not have a plan A or B, they don't seem to have plans for C,D,E or F either.They used to try to walk the ball into the opposition goal. Now they struggle to pass to their own team mates, thus struggling to even walk the ball into the penalty area. All the 5 aside stuff in training- they need Wrighty in to tell them where the goal is.
Who knows if anything will change when all our creative players return over the next few weeks....all the defensive players will probably get injured instead, and I guess we'll start drawing games 4-4, (it can happen again)!
One things for certain, the way its looking, Arsenal will have to win this years Champions League if they want to be in next years competition, I would'nt bet on it.

gunner 4 life

Posted on 28 Feb, 2009 at 10:46 PM - Reply

i agree with that, 16 points off the top is a disgrace .we are losing and drawing to the worst teams in the league .I would like to see arsene get the chop ,how many more chances are we going to give him ?
I feel ashamed to be an arsenal supporter , and i love the club to my core , but this is not just a blip we are going through . bottom line is we cannot score and i blame that soley on the manager ...thats what happens when you sell world class players like thierry henry and do not replace him.

truegooner

Posted on 28 Feb, 2009 at 10:43 PM - Reply

so who can we bring in who will do a better job?

this should be comical!!!

delboy

Posted on 28 Feb, 2009 at 10:43 PM - Reply

you have been very consipious in your absence of late azzer. I agree that wenger has run out of ideas. You are clearly very angry and rightly so, we need something to change. Plan A has been exposed for a while now and we never had a plan B apart from long ball Huffs. You want wenger out. Let him finish the season and see what happens, He at least deserves that!!!!

igunner92

Posted on 28 Feb, 2009 at 10:41 PM - Reply

So true... AW has lost it. End of the season, sack him and get Frank Rijkard =D.

gooner76

Posted on 28 Feb, 2009 at 10:33 PM - Reply

The board will keep Wenger because they cannot afford another manager - a new manager would want to buy the players the squad is missing and there just isn't any money. Ashburton Grove was supposed to allow us to compete in the transfer market with the likes of Man u and real Madrid instead it has become a burden and means fans have to watch the likes of Song, Eboue and Bendtner who realistically are lower prem at best,instead of the likes of Henry, pires, Bergkamp et al. Even if Wenger's prediction that this crop of youngsters will be great is true it will take too long to find out, more than one season outside the Champs League will see them leave for more money and glory and we will be back to square one. An injection of players/cash is what is needed not necessarily to by a host of £30m players just to buy some experience.

redanddread

Posted on 28 Feb, 2009 at 10:29 PM - Reply

Wow. That's some diatribe my friend! I am a brow beaten supporter, not knowing where to turn right now. Not even a 15 game unbeaten streak can put a smile on my face! After a long exasperated sigh I HOPE, WISH, PRAY that OUR team put egg on ALL our faces and make us proud for the rest of the season!

What else can I wish for??

Don

Posted on 28 Feb, 2009 at 10:25 PM - Reply

You are so right - maybe you should apply. God it was so much better before.

Babatunde

Posted on 28 Feb, 2009 at 10:21 PM - Reply

Shut up, it is so easy to stay on the side lines and accuse the manager, results haven't been fine and the premiership is definitely out of reach but Arsene remains a good manager and fully deserves the backing of the board.


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