Life after Wenger | Ornstein: Arsenal set to appoint Unai Emery

[HBL]

Getting rid of Wenger to hire Arteta/Vieira, would be like trading your old broken down Ferrari, for a ****ing bus pass.

Would it? We’ve got 13 points away from home this season and we’ve conceded at least 13 more than any of our rivals. We need a change badly, unfortunately for us we have no say in who the next manager is; we’ll just have to get behind them and the team.

 

[tap-in]

Guessing they’ll let Arteta go on holiday first.

Yeah, hopefully get the new manager in while he's on holiday

 

[Highbury_2006]

Aah. Here we go. People blaming fans even before the season has started. Arsenal fans were hostile in recent seasons because our players and manager performed badly consecutively for so many seasons. It is not the other way around. Don't tell that players and manager performed badly because of fans' hostility. We have been patient and supportive of the club for many years. Only when we realized that the same mistakes have been repeatedly made and nothing was going to change with Wenger at the helm, people started protesting. The atmosphere was not like this when we were still paying for the new stadium because our fans understood the situation we were in.
YES. OUR FANS UNDERSTAND.
If a new manager didn't perform well in the first season itself, our fans will understand as long as the methods are good. So stop blaming fans for every nonsense that happens around the club.

The fans that attacked Wenger without even mentioning the real enemy (Kroenke) should feel ashamed of themselves.

 

[Sanchez11]

The fans that attacked Wenger without even mentioning the real enemy (Kroenke) should feel ashamed of themselves.

The whole club are to blame by sitting on their hands

 

[dashsnow17]

This thread should be locked till there's some actual news, cos right now it's just regurgitated articles and arguments about whether someone who's never managed a game in his life should take over the 6th richest club in the world. (spoiler alert: probs not). Lock this thread.

 

[hydrofluoric acid]

This thread should be locked till there's some actual news, cos right now it's just regurgitated articles and arguments about whether someone who's never managed a game in his life should take over the 6th richest club in the world. (spoiler alert: probs not). Lock this thread.

You can also just close your laptop and throw it out of the window.

None forcing you to take part in those discussions.

 

[Pat Rice]

**** going through this every couple of months on the manager merry-go-round.

Sign up Allegri, Arteta or Asamoah Gyan for all I care now.

Give the new guy a 20 year contract and let’s all go back to being happily dissatisfied.

 

[Red London]

Arsenal fans are battered and bruised, so many let downs over the years has exhausted them. Many felt Wenger leaving was going to solve everything, but the links to Arteta and Vieira has maybe hit home with some that this club has different plans to what the fans thought and expected.

The thing is.. a lot of fans and pundits are mocking us for wanting a change saying "be careful what you wish for" but whether or not we show the ambition we expect from here, it's a scenario that we'd still have to face if Wenger stayed another decade and then left...

A lot of Arsenal fans have grown tired of the regime we've been through since moving stadiums. Even though most of the blame has to be put on Kroenke, some may say that Kroenke's lack of willingness to spend enabled Wenger to have much more power than any other manager in Europe. Not enough time to go into details but there are massive drawbacks to this..
On top of all this Wenger has become more and more tactically inept as the years go by. It will be very tough but if Kroenke wants us to act like a Sp**s or Liverpool level club then we can try to find our own Poch/Klopp who gets the best out of our players.

 

[Red London]

Beginning to strongly believe that we need a strong elite manager. This Arsenal job is going to be so hard that you’re really going to need someone with the calibre of Allegri or Simeone to come and shake things up.

Others managers point to a continuation of the current regime and system.

Wenger created a legacy and revolutionised the EPL when he came so there's no doubt that he left a massive mark on the club. I dont think a random inexperienced manager can take over the players who just had Wenger as a manager and gain enough respect to kick them in their backside and change the way they play.

United tried with a hipster decision in Moyes but no player respected him enough

 

[Kingslayer]

 

[Slartibartfast]

Wenger created a legacy and revolutionised the EPL when he came so there's no doubt that he left a massive mark on the club. I dont think a random inexperienced manager can take over the players who just had Wenger as a manager and gain enough respect to kick them in their backside and change the way they play.

United tried with a hipster decision in Moyes but no player respected him enough

This is my biggest concern with Arteta, even forgetting the lack of experience. If he's hired, as many as 10 of his players will have been his teammates just two years ago. Teammates have a certain type of relationship. Many become friends, but even those who don't become friends are comrades. A manager must have a completely different relationship with his players than teammates have. You must be an authority figure. You can get away with having a friendly relationship with players as an assistant coach, as a conduit between the players and the manager. But the manager must have a certain type of respect. How can Arteta change the relationship he has with the current Arsenal players? I think it would be nearly impossible.

 

[Trilly]

I thought we had no away wins in the league in 2018, turns out it's actually no away points. I'm crying.

 

[Jasard]

I thought we had no away wins in the league in 2018, turns out it's actually no away points. I'm crying.

Be a shame to ruin such an incredible stat by getting a draw at the weekend really

 

[Mark Tobias]

Be a shame to ruin such an incredible stat by getting a draw at the weekend really

But also gives some legitimacy to Wenger's recent comments about the team being capable. Clearly they are considering the stark contrast in home and away form.

 

[Hunta]

No updates I’m afraid.

As you were.

 

[Stannis]

oh to be a fly on the wall at Juve's meeting

 

[Artisan]

Imagine expecting people to get behind Arteta as a manager when the only reason he'd be hired is pure nepotism. Two years experience as a video analysts wouldn't even qualify him for considerations at the likes of Swansea...

 

[Jasard]

No updates I’m afraid.

As you were.

I know you're holding back on something. Cheeky.

 

[TriniGunner]

Wenger created a legacy and revolutionised the EPL when he came so there's no doubt that he left a massive mark on the club. I dont think a random inexperienced manager can take over the players who just had Wenger as a manager and gain enough respect to kick them in their backside and change the way they play.

United tried with a hipster decision in Moyes but no player respected him enough

Moyes should have just been himself.

 

[Stannis]

Imagine expecting people to get behind Arteta as a manager when the only reason he'd be hired is pure nepotism. Two years experience as a video analysts wouldn't even qualify him for considerations at the likes of Swansea...

No, but buying Gazidis a watch does