Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain: Less Ox, More Snake

[Trilly]

'Chump opposition'. That one gets wheeled out when it suits. I don't see it said when Özil gets a hattrick against a bunch of roadsweepers though

It's still 3-4 games where he's looked better than anyone else. It's 3-4 games that has given me more to be excited about than any of the others have all season long. I agree he has a loooong way to go, but that must mean the others have a loooooooooooooonger way to go.

The quality of your posts are getting worse by the day.

I've gone past bothering to point out what's wrong, I just pray for you now.

 

[Garrincha]

Its comes down to if you think Ox will be a starter next season & if you believe Wenger will still be here. If either is 'no' we would just be pissing away the 100k p/w & 20m potential fee.

Those figures can buy you a star outwide & no way the new manager is trusting a raw player who can count CM games on his hands in such a key position. Just look at the quality our rivals have! You just dont learn the position overnight.

 

[Jury]

The quality of your posts are getting worse by the day.

I've gone past bothering to point out what's wrong, I just pray for you now.

The roadsweepers bit apart, I'm not stating any facts in that post, so how can it be possible to point out anything that's 'wrong' with it? You keep praying for me, and I'll pray that you can one day differentiate between fact and opinion. You can take this L and move on, boss

 

[Rain Dance]

Needs to play as CM more in order to lower his mistakes there. You cant expect him to play wing all the time and once switched to CM not to make mistakes

You know...I think there is something called the training ground for that.

 

[Trilly]

The roadsweepers bit apart, I'm not stating any facts in that post, so how can it be possible to point out anything that's 'wrong' with it? You keep praying for me, and I'll pray that you can one day differentiate between fact and opinion. You can take this L and move on, boss

Comparing an established top class player to a prospect who's showing the first signs of serious development was the first warped track in the eventual train wreck.

Players can only perform against the opposition they face but it's one thing when an established quality player performs against a poor team and a completely different thing when an inconsistent player does the same. Of course there's going to be doubts man!

So no. The others don't have a longer way to go, they're more proven than the Ox

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you wallad.

 

[Taylor Gang Gunners]

 

[SuperGoon]

You guys frustrate me to no end sometimes. The **** I read on this site on a daily basis and most of it isn't coming from the usual suspects anymore.

 

[yybecause]

Yes, but what are people to do with their agendas in the mean time?

Pretend its an ice cream, just one of the ideas

 

[The_Playmaker]

@carlito'sway . You keep bringing up that you can lsit 12 or more players you would rather play there. It isn't really relative as the Ox has barely played there but when he has, he has stood out and also against good opposition like Ac Milan and Bayern.

There is such a massive difference between playing wide and central. It will take Ox time to adjust. Out of curiosity, of the players you can name, how many of them could play on the wing? And how many of them have been moved all over the place before getting a chance in the middle?

 

[Cudareli]

The quality of your posts are getting worse by the day.

I've gone past bothering to point out what's wrong, I just pray for you now.

He hasn't really said much wrong has he?

 

[karl]

He hasn't really said much wrong has he?

You can tell there is no game this weekend.

 

[bingobob]

Ox is our best performing CM lately--this can not disputed.

Damning with feint praise. Some of our midfield performances recently have been Flaminiesque.

Two things going for the Ox currently are the lack of credible alternatives currently and that he has the attributes to succeed as a CM. That said if others started upping their game and attributes fail to materialise into performances then what you have is the Ox's Arsenal career in a nut shell.

That said give him a contract. Its more important that we protect the club and the next manager so that when they decide what to do with him they have a contract in place that allows him to play (without a Walcott gun to the club's head) or gets true value when they sell him.

 

[Jury]

Comparing an established top class player to a prospect who's showing the first signs of serious development was the first warped track in the eventual train wreck.

Players can only perform against the opposition they face but it's one thing when an established quality player performs against a poor team and a completely different thing when an inconsistent player does the same. Of course there's going to be doubts man!

So no. The others don't have a longer way to go, they're more proven than the Ox

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you wallad.

Who's comparing players per se?

All I've said is Ox's best performance/s in MF this season have trumped anything Xhaka, a proven super gangster G Pirlo-esque of a midfield machine, has done for Arsenal. ...Whether I think he's a better MFer than Xhaka isn't being discusssed.

What is wrong with your reading skills? I know it's hard when you get hung by your balls, but creating a non existent argument just so you can then attack it, before running away with foam dripping from your mush, claiming your 25th world internet crown, won't reverse anything

 

[carlito'sway]

@carlito'sway . You keep bringing up that you can lsit 12 or more players you would rather play there. It isn't really relative as the Ox has barely played there but when he has, he has stood out and also against good opposition like Ac Milan and Bayern.

There is such a massive difference between playing wide and central. It will take Ox time to adjust. Out of curiosity, of the players you can name, how many of them could play on the wing? And how many of them have been moved all over the place before getting a chance in the middle?

I don't know if Saul Niguez, Corentin Tolisso or Julian Brandt ever played on the wings, but frankly it is irrelevant in my views. My point is that, either on the wings or in CM, I have not seen enough talent or quality in Ox to warrant a contract extension and an over 100K/w wages.
He is not starter material on the wings and even less in CM where composure, technical ability, tactical intelligence and passing are keys.
He is currently being graded on a curve in CM when we rather need to be objective and realize he is not up to the standards required at this position. A couple of decent games here and there are surely not enough body of work to convince me otherwise.

 

[Penn_]

If a new manager doesn't want him then we could easily get 20M+ for him. He's relatively young and English, there's always going to be a market for him. Makes sense to give him an extension.

 

[carlito'sway]

If a new manager doesn't want him then we could easily get 20M+ for him. He's relatively young and English, there's always going to be a market for him. Makes sense to give him an extension.

That would make sense if his salary is reasonable for potential buyers.
Look at Theo's situation, I doubt, outside of the MU clubs, too many teams will be able and willing to afford him with his 140k/w. He will be very hard to unload.

 

[ARSNLNO1]

If we were to sell the Ox I think we would massively regret it. It has always been stated that Wenger sees him central long term and when he has been asked to play there has exceeded expectations. Give me the Ox any day over Ramsey or Coq.

 

[Trilly]

Who's comparing players per se?

All I've said is Ox's best performance/s in MF this season have trumped anything Xhaka, a proven super gangster G Pirlo-esque of a midfield machine, has done for Arsenal. ...Whether I think he's a better MFer than Xhaka isn't being discusssed.

What is wrong with your reading skills? I know it's hard when you get hung by your balls, but creating a non existent argument just so you can then attack it, before running away with foam dripping from your mush, claiming your 25th world internet crown, won't reverse anything

25th world internet crown. You know what, I'll hand you your first crown. 24 more to go.

Yeah Ox in CM has been impressive. The skills he possesses allow him to effect the game more against lesser opposition than someone like Xhaka would if you see where I'm coming from? Xhaka has done what he does consistently and at a higher level, a 9/10 performance from Xhaka isn't as glamorous as a 9/10 from Ox.

 

[Trilly]

He hasn't really said much wrong has he?

You can tell there is no game this weekend.

Stay out of it.

You guys really should read the room...

 

[Gooner Zig]

'Chump opposition'. That one gets wheeled out when it suits. I don't see it said when Özil gets a hattrick against a bunch of roadsweepers though

It's still 3-4 games where he's looked better than anyone else. It's 3-4 games that has given me more to be excited about than any of the others have all season long. I agree he has a loooong way to go, but that must mean the others have a loooooooooooooonger way to go.

Better than anyone else?

You're supposedly a 'hype hater' but you damn sure love to pump up the tyres of your favourites.