Premier League 2016/17 season

[Trilly]

Alright this one is more fair. If we beat Chelsea I suppose we can't complain.

I'll eat my hat if we beat Chelsea though.

 

[Notorious Big]

So it looks like our main contenders in my eyes City are out of the race for the title.
We've underachieved imo if one of Sp**s, Liverpool and Chelsea win the league over us, we are better than all three and should be ahead of them in the table.

The thing is that Wenger isn't better than Klopp and Conte.

 

[Sapient Hawk]

but but the stats say that its because of the cost of our squad, that we can never win the league because the other teams have more money than us.

It boggles the mind how people believe this nonsense when, as pointed out earlier, Koeman continues to outwit Wenger with Everton now as he previously did with Southampton. Both have squads that have been put together at a fraction of what we spent to build our team.

 

[samshere]

The thing is that Wenger isn't better than Klopp and Conte.

We've got a better squad than either Chelsea or Liverpool. Beat Chelsea and we'll be just 5 points behind them.

 

[Makingtrax]

There was a top 6 league posted below, which is better. A top 6 table is perfectly fair considering they are all within touching distance, before the big drop off to Everton.

It's an objective statistic. No bias, it's perfectly rational to include the top 6. You don't like it because it reflects poorly on us.

Of course I don't like it if people are posting stuff to make us look bad. That's part of being a supporter ffs.

We're 4th in a very tight league of 20, and people are posting a mini league of only 6 games where we've played fewer than the others,just so we can be bottom.

 

[Notorious Big]

We've got a better squad than either Chelsea or Liverpool. Beat Chelsea and we'll be just 5 points behind them.

You're probably right,but they have better managers than Arsenal.To have any chance to win the league,we have to beat one of those away games ( Sp**s,Chelsea,Liverpool ) and to beat Utd and City at home.Count that we have away fixtures where we always play like ****,Stoke and Southampton.

 

[Notorious Big]

Of course I don't like it if people are posting stuff to make us look bad. That's part of being a supporter ffs.

We're 4th in a very tight league of 20, and people are posting a mini league of only 6 games where we've played fewer than the others,just so we can be bottom.

Isn't that the easiest way to see where we at against top teams ? We have to compare with them,not with Stoke and Sunderland in terms of head to head results.Sometimes results against our main rivals in later stages of the season can be cruical.And overall we were quite **** against them in many years now.

 

[say yes]

We've underachieved imo if one of Sp**s, Liverpool and Chelsea win the league over us, we are better than all three and should be ahead of them in the table.

Bit simplistic that. Chelsea are heading for a 90+ point season.

I want to see ~85 points this year from Arsenal. If another team tops that then fair play.

 

[James Bond]

Of course I don't like it if people are posting stuff to make us look bad. That's part of being a supporter ffs.

We're 4th in a very tight league of 20 92, and people are posting a mini league of only 6 games where we've played fewer than the others,just so we can be bottom.

Fixed for you. Remember we're 4th out of 92.

 

[Makingtrax]

Isn't that the easiest way to see where we at against top teams ? We have to compare with them,not with Stoke and Sunderland in terms of head to head results.Sometimes results against our main rivals in later stages of the season can be cruical.And overall we were quite **** against them in many years now.

True, so let's wait to the end of the season when there's enough games for it to be meaningful, and even more important, everybody's played the same amount if games.

 

[Makingtrax]

Fixed for you. Remember we're 4th out of 92.

Even better, thanks

 

[Hunter Zolomon]

It boggles the mind how people believe this nonsense when, as pointed out earlier, Koeman continues to outwit Wenger with Everton now as he previously did with Southampton. Both have squads that have been put together at a fraction of what we spent to build our team.

i was being sarcastic

 

[Trilly]

Bit simplistic that. Chelsea are heading for a 90+ point season.

I want to see ~85 points this year from Arsenal. If another team tops that then fair play.

I'm afraid that won't be happening unless Cazorla comes back 6 foot 2 and on PED's.

 

[Sapient Hawk]

i was being sarcastic

I do apologize, it's just that the argument wore thin ages ago & the sight of it, along with Xhaka, are among the few things that get a rise out of me these days

 

[CurryFlavoured]

Of course I don't like it if people are posting stuff to make us look bad. That's part of being a supporter ffs.

We're 4th in a very tight league of 20, and people are posting a mini league of only 6 games where we've played fewer than the others,just so we can be bottom.

It can't all be sunshine and rainbows! People are allowed to bring up problems, our record against big sides (bar last season) has been poor. If anything this season's table is an improvement!

 

[Gooner n Proud]

The thing is that Wenger isn't better than Klopp and Conte.

I think all the top managers in the division are at a similar level; all of them have their strengths and weaknesses. Absolutely Conte and Klopp are better than Arsène in some aspects of management however Wenger has strengths that are superior to the aforementioned coaches.

 

[Gooner n Proud]

Bit simplistic that. Chelsea are heading for a 90+ point season.

I want to see ~85 points this year from Arsenal. If another team tops that then fair play.

We are better than them, much deeper squad in all areas from goalkeeper to attack.

 

[Makingtrax]

Forgoten what sunshine looks like in this forum mate. More depressing drizzle than a bad holiday in Blackpool.

 

[Notorious Big]

I think all the top managers in the division are at a similar level; all of them have their strengths and weaknesses. Absolutely Conte and Klopp are better than Arsène in some aspects of management however Wenger has strengths that are superior to the aforementioned coaches.

Maybe he's better in some things,but it's not enough to win the league and that is only important for Arsenal.He has problems with winning mentality at the club and with game approach in some games,especailly big games.You see improvements in any top 6 team this season and we somehow stand on same spot with pretty predictable end of the season.

 

[novarek]

Klopp is debatable, he won with kids but he can burn down a team and crash at depths Wenger hasn't since his Monaco days

But the only thing he has over Conte is his wage