Who will be Arsenal's next manager?


GDeep (Forum Member) on September 19th, 2011, 12:27 am

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Ar ... 01482.html

Posting it even though it's highly likely Cross just made this up.
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DK Gooner (Forum Member) on September 19th, 2011, 12:36 am

outlaw_member wrote:
DK Gooner wrote:
outlaw_member wrote:Is 'The Blizzard' any good? Also, what did he say in regards to Arshavin and van Persie? What would he do differently, or did he simply state that he just differs with him?


The Blizzard is quality with some really in depth articles from some of the best journalists out there. This issue even had one article by Miguel Delaney specifically comparing Wenger to Francis Ford Coppola and Michael Cimino.

As to Stojkovic on Arsenal, he doesn't go into specifics as its only a short paragraph answer but that he feels Arsenal need an "expensive" striker as RVP is not a "real" striker and also refers to Arshavin in the same vein. He also says that Adebayor was a "real" striker for Arsenal. That kind of gives a sense of how he would prefer a forward line to look compared to the system we currently operate.


Holy crap, you're joking? That sounds like my kind of book. Wenger like Coppola? Bloody hell.


Definitely recommend it mate and knew the film angle would interest you.

I agree, and as much as this will be controversial and a complete u-turn given what I thought about him during his stay at the club, I prefer Adebayor leading the line for that very same reason. Too bad, him and van Persie didn't really get to perform as a partnership for longer than two seasons. We need a proper striker, as funny a request as that may sound. Falcao may have cost 40 million, but I bet At. Madrid will believe him to be worth every penny come the end of the season.


I still think we had to cash in on Adebyor at the time, but we needed a replacement in his style of sufficient quality to at least credibly challenge RVP upfront. As much as I like RVP, I just think that the system with him as its focal point requires too many people to be on the same wavelength and adjust to his way of playing which won't happen often enough. I think Falcao would have been an amazing purchase and agree that A Madrid may yet consider it a bargain even at that price.
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heltaschelta (Forum Member) on September 19th, 2011, 12:46 am

DanDare wrote:
GDeep wrote:Disgraceful thread.

Why?


I can't see how this is a disgraceful thread. It is inevitable we will have a new manager at some stage. With the current results it could be very soon. Asking this question gives an indication of the style of manager we fans would like next.
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DJ_Markstar (Forum Member) on September 19th, 2011, 2:02 am

GDeep wrote:http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Arsenal-players-back-Arsène-Wenger-as-manager-but-want-defensive-coach-article801482.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Posting it even though it's highly likely Cross just made this up.


Wow, The quotes from all those players really hit home how accurate this article is likely to be :lol:
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mistaT (Trusted Member) on September 19th, 2011, 3:45 am

David Moyes if we continue to go English, think he would do wonders with the likes of Wilshere, AOC and co.

Not to mention he could be appease the board as he is used to working on a tight budget.

Big fan, and it would be nice to see him shore up our defense (both in midfield and the defense).
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MDGoonah41 (Forum Member) on September 19th, 2011, 4:06 am

No way to Moyes and MON.

Would prefer Low or Klopp with Keown as the defensive coach.
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been (Forum Member) on September 19th, 2011, 4:40 am

HUGE fan of low but im always skeptical on how he would perform for club

it really is totally different but i would love to see him in action
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Anzac (Trusted Member) on September 19th, 2011, 8:37 am

GDeep wrote:http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Arsenal-players-back-Arsène-Wenger-as-manager-but-want-defensive-coach-article801482.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Posting it even though it's highly likely Cross just made this up.


Hardly surprising,
but seriously WTF????

Arsenal have a respected former full back in Wenger’s No.2 Pat Rice, but do not have a specialist defensive coach.

THunter (Forum Member) on September 19th, 2011, 9:04 am

General wrote:
THunter wrote:No point talking about this until he actually goes, when's his contract run out by the way? Can only see him going when that ends.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/footbal ... 912413.stm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
2 more years to go then, oh dear.

Vela (Forum Member) on September 19th, 2011, 9:18 am

Hopefully John Cross article is right that the players want a defensive coach. Martin Keown or Steve Bould would hopefully teach and improve are defence.
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General (Forum Member) on September 19th, 2011, 9:57 am

Anzac wrote:
GDeep wrote:http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Arsenal-players-back-Arsène-Wenger-as-manager-but-want-defensive-coach-article801482.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Posting it even though it's highly likely Cross just made this up.


Hardly surprising,
but seriously WTF????

Arsenal have a respected former full back in Wenger’s No.2 Pat Rice, but do not have a specialist defensive coach.


Yup. Even if you think the story lacks credibility, it's hard to argue against the bit you've underlined.
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outlaw_member (Forum Member) on September 19th, 2011, 10:44 am

That's galling. Despite our defensive shortcomings, I thought it was given that we had a specialist defensive coach. How can you not have one? That's incredibly baffling. Even FM managers make sure to sign up a strong defensive coach. :x
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Beksl (Forum Member) on September 19th, 2011, 11:26 am

Moyes really is the perfect fit. He has worked under a tight budget for a long time, has vast PL experience and knows how to guide a young player to become a top footballer. Judging by his recent comments, he even sounds like Wenger:

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,,11671_7188511,00.html

"It's the only way we can do it, to give some of these young boys a chance. There's the best of what we've got at the moment."

"I've got to make sure that those players feel I believe in them," he continued.

"I've told the supporters we'll be giving a lot of the young boys opportunities, and it'll be up to them to show that they can do it.

"In turn, it could mean that some results don't go the way we want.

"It's difficult for an Everton supporter to accept that because they see themselves as one of the big clubs."
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qs (Elite Member) on September 19th, 2011, 11:28 am

Moyes would frustrate people just as much as Wenger. He's incredibly stubborn and makes baffling decisions on a regular basis.
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Beksl (Forum Member) on September 19th, 2011, 11:32 am

I think he could do an excellent job if given a chance, in the last couple of season he had a non existent budget and still came up with strong results.
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albakos (Trusted Member) on September 19th, 2011, 11:33 am

If Wenger gets the sack (which is equal to 0.001% chance from the current board dimwits), I think the best solution would be to get Carlo Ancelloti.

To hell with walking the ball to the net and youth project. He will get the best out of our players (as he did with Malouda, Ivanovic) and remove dead wood (J.Cole etc...)

I'm tempted to say that players like Diaby, Arshavin and even Theo would get much better under him and when played in their natural positions would excel from what we their impotent displays thus far.


He is freely available, has tons of experience and has a lot of unfinished business in England and Champions League.

We cannot drop the the levels of getting managers who "might be good" for us: Moyes, MON etc...
Just ask Sp*rs what they got with Ramos or Chelsea with Scolari.

On the other side, Ancelloti has proved over and over again he has the guts and braincells to change and win things. After all he isn't a member of the succesfull Milan triumvirate for no reason: Sacchi - Capello - Ancelloti.

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qs (Elite Member) on September 19th, 2011, 11:35 am

I wasn't keen on the idea of Ancelotti at first but the more I think about it the more I like the idea of him taking us over for 2 or 3 seasons to steady the ship.
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heltaschelta (Forum Member) on September 19th, 2011, 12:39 pm

David Moyes has proven he can get the most out his squad year after year. with little or no transfer budget.

His tactics are dictated by his squads qualities. He would relish working with our best. His sides are amongst the best when it comes to set pieces. Something that our team desperately needs to improve in.

He knows the premier league and would be very trustworthy with a war chest.
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Anzac (Trusted Member) on September 19th, 2011, 1:00 pm

qs wrote:I wasn't keen on the idea of Ancelotti at first but the more I think about it the more I like the idea of him taking us over for 2 or 3 seasons to steady the ship.


One of The Lobby posters reckons that there is a clause in his release that he can't manage in the PL for a year.

Bossa (Forum Member) on September 19th, 2011, 1:13 pm

I do not rate any of the current managers outside the top 6. Maybe only Roberto Martinez.
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albakos (Trusted Member) on September 19th, 2011, 1:13 pm

Anzac wrote:
qs wrote:I wasn't keen on the idea of Ancelotti at first but the more I think about it the more I like the idea of him taking us over for 2 or 3 seasons to steady the ship.


One of The Lobby posters reckons that there is a clause in his release that he can't manage in the PL for a year.


Ancelotti also mentioned that he would be taking take a break for one year after getting the sack from Chelsea. Many journalists linked this with the possible job of managing Italy post Euro 2012, but I'm sure we can pay that release clause and get him.

Again there's less that 0.0001 % chance of our board sacking Wenger or Arsène calling it quits, so I guess we're all just daydreaming :)
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Bossa (Forum Member) on September 19th, 2011, 1:14 pm

I can see Ancelotti coach Inter or Roma after their trainer gets sacked this season.
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qs (Elite Member) on September 19th, 2011, 1:19 pm

Anzac wrote:
qs wrote:I wasn't keen on the idea of Ancelotti at first but the more I think about it the more I like the idea of him taking us over for 2 or 3 seasons to steady the ship.


One of The Lobby posters reckons that there is a clause in his release that he can't manage in the PL for a year.


Chelsea sacked him didn't they? Why would anyone sign a clause that says we can fire you and you can't take other jobs in our league?

Either way when you look at the money Wenger is on we should be able to attract pretty much any available manager in the world.
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dpt49 (Forum Member) on September 19th, 2011, 1:29 pm

Ancelotti would be an ideal choice.
Experienced in the EPL and CL. He managed to win Chelsea the double in his first season.

He plays fairly attractive, but effective, football.

He is used to managing top players and difficult ones as well and is used to dealing with difficult club owners.

Why Abramovich got rid of him is unbelievable.
If the rumours are to be believed it was too much interference from him.

Can you imagine any team managed by Ancelotti letting in 12 goals in their last two away games, and throwing away leads on a regular basis, I don't think so

General (Forum Member) on September 19th, 2011, 1:31 pm

qs wrote:
Anzac wrote:
qs wrote:I wasn't keen on the idea of Ancelotti at first but the more I think about it the more I like the idea of him taking us over for 2 or 3 seasons to steady the ship.


One of The Lobby posters reckons that there is a clause in his release that he can't manage in the PL for a year.


Chelsea sacked him didn't they? Why would anyone sign a clause that says we can fire you and you can't take other jobs in our league?



Maybe his severance package had something to do with it, especially if Chelsea paid up the remainder of his contract. It's a common clause.
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Anzac (Trusted Member) on September 19th, 2011, 1:35 pm

Hiddink / Ancelotti / Spalleti / Klopp / Rijkaard / Stojkovic

The first 3 primarily as short term/caretaker options to get us back on track, and the latter 3 more towards long term options.

arsmile (Forum Member) on September 19th, 2011, 1:36 pm

i'd take moyes yeah...never thought about it before but i would.




either that or take a chance on one of our ex players liek dennis or something. i wouldnt want a jobber to come in and do a job for a few years.

if we ever decide that Arsène has coem to the end of the line we'd need to start a new line, not jsut tag somethign onto the end of it.

I dotn think we'd have anythign to gain by pushign him out at this stage though- even if there is a horribly moribund atmosphere about the whole place.
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Bossa (Forum Member) on September 19th, 2011, 1:36 pm

He can organise a defence. But he likes to play with experienced players so that might be a misfit.
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Dave_Ja_Vu (Forum Member) on September 19th, 2011, 1:37 pm

Not keen on Joachim Low, Anzac?
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ebouenolike (Trusted Member) on September 19th, 2011, 1:37 pm

Weirdly I'd kind of like Moyes, would NEVER have wanted MON ever. Yet Moyes with some money behind him and a big club could be excellent, and Scottish managers have had success at the top in England. Fergie, Graham, Dalglish. It would be interesting to see if Moyes could cut it.
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