Usmanov or 'Silent' Stan?

Maybe he thinks he could get more, or maybe he had to sign an addendum preventing him to sell his shares to Usmanov, after all Fizsman was strongly against any kind of involvement from the Uzbek.

And I don't know if it's even legal to sell controlling share of the club a couple of months after you acquired those shares.

Anyway, he's an investor he won't throw silly money at the club as do Sheiks and Abramovich, at the end he'll look to make a profit out of us.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011 ... CMP=twt_gu

Worth a read!

Another article with some more quotes.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/footba ... pitch.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

So are these...

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Ar ... 25146.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Ar ... 25147.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

2nd link is a full transcript.

He says a lot but on the other hand he says nothing. This guy is a very cautious and shrewd business man.

Can you compete on player contracts?

"That is a loaded question."

Not exactly what we want to hear.

What about Robin van Persie and his current contract situation? Do you have a message to the fans?

"I think Robin van Persie is a great player. I think he's doing a great job. He's captain of the club. Arsène said the other day, 'Can we succeed if we are not together? Absolutely not.' If we are together, we have a chance. I thought it was extremely important that Arsène said that. I think that everybody needs to think about that. I think that Robin van Persie gets that, and I think he has shown real leadership. I have watched him and had a chance to chat with him. I think he has done a great job of that. But I think asking me to talk about Robin van Persie at this stage is not fair to Robin van Persie and is not fair to Arsène and Ivan. They are the guys who know the particulars of that situation.

But Nasri had 12 months left, as Van Persie will have next summer, and you made a business decision [Nasri was sold to Manchester City]?

" Arsène made a business decision. I understand why you guys want to do this, but I don't think it is fair on any of the parties for me to start talking about this."

Nothing has changed after Kroenke's arrival really which can be good or bad. Arsène is still the only one in charge.

He walked to stamford bridge? he talked to chelsea fans? (support the Glazers! )

GET UZZI IN!

Which other clubs did you look at before Arsenal?

"I don't really want to go into that. Suffice to say it was more than eight and less than 15. How's that?"

hmm. Interesting.

His comments underline what I was talking about in my previous posts:

With the rest of the Premier League struggling to keep pace with Manchester City, Kroenke defended Arsenal’s self-sustainable model and made a point of acclaiming the Glazers for underpinning their phenomenal success by developing Manchester United infrastructure and revenues.

He'll try to improve our off the field activities ie, increasing revenues and infrastructure and thus try to increase the value of the club. We certainly won't be breaking the bank in the transfer market.

He is possibly the most clueless man in football..( actually sorry i remembered hill wood is still alive) listening to him is cringeworthy.
he seems to think that arsenal fans actually want him anywhere near our club!
deluded wanker..
USMANOV USMANOV USMANOV

I can get on board with increased turnover.

I'm sorry but everything I read that comes from Stan's mouth he just comes across as a prat.

And...is that a wig?

His comments underline what I was talking about in my previous posts:

With the rest of the Premier League struggling to keep pace with Manchester City, Kroenke defended Arsenal’s self-sustainable model and made a point of acclaiming the Glazers for underpinning their phenomenal success by developing Manchester United infrastructure and revenues.

He'll try to improve our off the field activities ie, increasing revenues and infrastructure and thus try to increase the value of the club. We certainly won't be breaking the bank in the transfer market.

His aim is to increase profits, but not to be reinvested in the club, but more likely to go in his own pocket

His aim is to increase profits, but not to be reinvested in the club, but more likely to go in his own pocket

David Dein?

His aim is to increase profits, but not to be reinvested in the club, but more likely to go in his own pocket

David Dein?

We won more when David Dein was here than we have with Kroenke.

David Dein would not be as stupid as to come out with a statement like, "I admire what the Glaziers are doing at Man u" and misleading statements like "We have invested in players in the last transfer window"

Also, most importantly, Dein is an Arsenal supporter, unlike Kroenke who, when asked, which other clubs did you look at before Arsenal? replied,"suffice to say it was more than eight and less than 15. How's that?"

Dein is probably as greedy as the next millionaire business man, but at least he had a pretty good track record when he was here and only wanted the best for the club.
Kroenke has sold our best players, made a massive profit, and has seen our expectations drop dramatically, thinking fourth place is a success.
Not in my book it isn't

His aim is to increase profits, but not to be reinvested in the club, but more likely to go in his own pocket

David Dein?

You DO realise that without DD we would still be at Highbury & no better off than the likes of Everton etc?

DD decided to spend some money to buy into the club despite PHW describing it as a dead money in doing so. He then introduced his friend Danny Fizman to invest in the club by selling him some shares & he went on to become our major shareholder. DD & Fizman were behind our growth & expansion project, and DD found/brought AW to the club. He was opposed to the self funding structure being burdoned with the stadium debt & tried to bring more investors to the table in Kroenke & then Usmanov.

I don't want Usmanov as a major driving force at the club, but at the moment he provides a good check on Kroenke owning all of Arsenal.

The only time we will see what the benefits of Kroenke's ownership and Gazidis' stewardship etc will be when Wenger leaves. Then they will finally be in the forefront of decision making processes and we'll have to see what trajectory the club then takes. Wenger has provided a continuity and stability that has allowed these guys to stay in the background without having to do much that can be scrutinized. Once Wenger goes, Gazidis will then have to assume the high profile role that Dein used to occupy unless Kroenke decides to make his presence more visible (abramovich style). IMO, the talk about self-sufficiency and improving our commercial interests will only work if the club is moderately successful. Is our brand big enough to take another 6 trophy-less years or will we see a decline in reputation and thus revenue making even this current level unsustainable?

We won more when David Dein was here than we have with Kroenke.

Anyway i'm not in any way trying to have a go at Dein, just find it odd people are so angry at the thought of someone using the club to make money and then deify Dein who sold his shares for a tidy profit.

We won more when David Dein was here than we have with Kroenke.

Anyway i'm not in any way trying to have a go at Dein, just find it odd people are so angry at the thought of someone using the club to make money and then deify Dein who sold his shares for a tidy profit.

It was you who was saying how Usmanov proposed dividends are paid out to shareholders and you used that argument to oppose his ownership so I pointed out Kroenke is no saint in that regard either.

I don't want Usmanov as a major driving force at the club, but at the moment he provides a good check on Kroenke owning all of Arsenal.

The only time we will see what the benefits of Kroenke's ownership and Gazidis' stewardship etc will be when Wenger leaves. Then they will finally be in the forefront of decision making processes and we'll have to see what trajectory the club then takes. Wenger has provided a continuity and stability that has allowed these guys to stay in the background without having to do much that can be scrutinized. Once Wenger goes, Gazidis will then have to assume the high profile role that Dein used to occupy unless Kroenke decides to make his presence more visible (abramovich style). IMO, the talk about self-sufficiency and improving our commercial interests will only work if the club is moderately successful. Is our brand big enough to take another 6 trophy-less years or will we see a decline in reputation and thus revenue making even this current level unsustainable?

Would you like to see my white pussy?

WTF boots?

You would`ve had to have seen the tv show that DK`s ava represents.

My jury is still out on this issue...silent Stan is a little to silent for my liking and the dodgy Uzbekie may have money to burn but AW is adverse to spending it, so I see little point in a massive cash injection if it isn`t used.

When or if AW retires, or is ousted, may well be the time for the Uzbek to climb aboard the Arsenal train.

WTF boots?

Glass of water for RWA

I can get on board with increased turnover.

Cool, but can you get on THE board so we can find out what the hell is going on?

AW is not against spending money, or at least not in my opinion, and I believe that if he was given the go ahead, he would love to be able to buy players better than what he is at the moment.

AW is not against spending money, or at least not in my opinion, and I believe that if he was given the go ahead, he would love to be able to buy players better than what he is at the moment.

Meh - IMO he believes his own hype.
2 seasons ago talk of a 100m war chest started to circulate as City started to build their squad,
and AW said that even if he had that money he likely wouldn't spend it & would most probably give it back.

As for buying better players = he can already do so IF he makes that his priority & 1st action, rather than the last after tying players down to contract extensions & buying more young talent.

Usmanov.

We need money to compete. I don't want to be at City's level or even Chelsea's level of spending but we at least need to be able to offer decent wages, that seems to be one of the biggest things holding us back atm.

Is it my imagination, or have the board been remarkably quiet recently.
Isn't there normally a quote saying Wenger has got 30m to spend if he needs it?

Wenger's got 50 Million to spend for January that's what was reported at the AGM (Arsenal General Meeting) earlier this season. It was also said at the AST as well.

We should be glad if he spends half of it.