Gervinho's role

He lost it to the Wigan RB about three times in the last 10 minutes, bullshit.

Yep i saw that. I just went by the stats.

I'd rather him trying to take on his defender and be incisive than hide in the 18 yard box with the CB's being invisible.

He kept trying to thread little passes to runners in the box, Wigan had flooded those areas though. In those situations you need to just fire crosses in with pace, force them to do some proper defending - it's basically all United's wingers do.

He shouldn't have been anywhere near the pitch tonight let alone play, OX should'ce come on instead and that says a lot about an experienced international.

its really a sorry state of affairs when you consider that if the ox is included in the starting XI instead of ramsey, from the bench, our best player now to bring on(regardless of position) is carl jenkinson. Not chamankh, not park, not gervais, not ramsey, not almunia, not squallici, good god what a mountain of under preforming and utterly useless subs we have.

0 time disposed, you having a giraffe? He lost it numerous times.

http://www.whoscored.com/Matches/507105/LiveStatistics/England-Premier-League-2011-2012-Arsenal-Wigan

This poor site again?

It has been shown up to be a shower of **** on numerous occasions.

He really looks average these days. Nothing better than Ryo or Chamberlain, which he should be at 24 regardless of this being his first season. I would be in favour of selling him this summer.

lol, just realized that even if somehow he finds a nice vein of form next season, sooner rather then later, he'll be off to the ANC again.

We should ask DJ Markie to auction him on Ebay.

We should ask DJ Markie to auction him on Ebay.

I'd need someone else to write the description if we're to get more than £5.50+P&P for him.

He is not going to completely change the pattern of a game single-handedly in 30 minutes, we were lacking in every area of the pitch before he came on and he was always going to struggle to make a positive impact given the nature of the game. Obviously given the differing opinions of him on AM he was always going to be a target in the fall-out from the game, but hey that's Arsenal-Mania

I believe he actually needs to start games and if it wasnt for Yossi being ineligible for Saturday he probably would have. Not that it would have made a difference given the shambles that was our defence and midfield.

I said in January while he was at ACN that I would give him the full season before making a judgement, and I based this on what I perceived to be a good level of talent and ability that I felt could develop into an asset for the team when he acclimatises to the club, league and its requirements.

Having said this he has played no-where near as much as I felt he would on his return, I think he has only started four games since getting back. I dont know why this is, maybe his level of training has dropped or AW has lost confidence in him, but if it continues and we bring in Podolski I believe we wont see much more of him. Lucas will take that left role and unless Gerv can perform his way back into the team and prove he can provide quality competition/alternative for the LW spot or at least begin to show he can make a difference when coming of the bench his days are more than likely numbered.

I dont want this, I like him and still have confidence he can be a good squad player and occasional starter but as the season has progressed I have begun to doubt myself at times.. There's no doubting this has been a strange season for the club, and one that would be very challenging if it was your debut season. Bar Mikel every other signing has had their problems and still have their critics, I just feel he hasn't had a fair crack of the whip to some extent and unless he really ups his game and starts contributing to the team he may never get it.

@Fabo: Would you swap Gerv for Stephan El Sharwaary?

We should ask DJ Markie to auction him on Ebay.

I'd need someone else to write the description if we're to get more than £5.50+P&P for him.

Come on if Denilson's bidding got up to 15,000 surely we could get a similar amout for Gervinho.

We just need you to touch on his deficiencies in a positive way like this seller did.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sp ... -eBay.html

Denilson, like Failmunia, is another player I got in constant arguments over before everyone eventually realised he was horrendous.

Only a matter of time!

Think he would fetch more than Denilson on eBay, though.

Average pace>>>casually jogging

I'm just so disappointed we haven't used Benayoun more this season. Truth is Benny has looked pretty good every time he has played. Wenger really has missed out on him, at least he's got talent skill and intelligence, something forehead has none of.

I'm so disappointed we haven't seen more of Benny and Rosicky this season to play Gerv and Ramsey instead to noodle heads.

He'll come good, Wengers big signings from France always do, might have to wait a little longer than 6-12 months though with the disruption of African Nations in consecutive years.

With back to back African Nations I would question signing African players unless they were super quality or already playing in England. Yaya hasn't looked the same, while Kolo always came back and had issues.

and that's probably its very likely that wenger will sign another african player, consecutive ANCs will probably drive their prices down.

He'll come good, Wengers big signings from France always do, might have to wait a little longer than 6-12 months though with the disruption of African Nations in consecutive years.

With back to back African Nations I would question signing African players unless they were super quality or already playing in England. Yaya hasn't looked the same, while Kolo always came back and had issues.

@Fabo: Would you swap Gerv for Stephan El Sharwaary?

Gervinho has been shocking recently, but still, couldn't see El-Sharaawy doing much here at this stage.

Seen this on another site:

Utterly utterly hopeless. In a list of useless things, I think the running order is

1. Gervinho
2. A handbrake on a canoe
3. A glass-eye at a keyhole
4. An ashtray on a motorbike
5. A chocolate fireguard

I like the directness that Gervinho and Walcott offer, but they are both lacking significantly in the technical department. I don't see the point of possessing two heavily flawed wide forwards, unless we are going to sign Podolski and a top direct forward. We should definitely sell one of the two. Walcott/Gervinho and Oxlade should be in reserve, with Podolski and say Lavezzi as first choice.

I also don't think that Gervinho will be much better next season, because he's shown to be lacking far too much in his game, in order for him to suddenly jump to a higher level over the summer. We're not talking about a player who is merely lacking confidence, but one whose touch and finishing is also below average.

Wenger's second wave of Ligue 1 and French national signings have been an utter failure. Grimandi and Wenger both deserve heavy criticism for poor scouting and decision making. Gervinho, Park, Chamakh, Nasri, Traore, Diaby, Diarra, Silvestre and Squillaci have been huge mistakes, whilst Koscielny, Gallas, Adebayor and Song have been inconsistent. Only Sagna can claim to be a successful signing. I hope we stay away from Belhanda, whilst we're at it. The world doesn't start and end with France.

He'll come good, Wengers big signings from France always do, might have to wait a little longer than 6-12 months though with the disruption of African Nations in consecutive years.

With back to back African Nations I would question signing African players unless they were super quality or already playing in England. Yaya hasn't looked the same, while Kolo always came back and had issues.

The other problem is that they are very inconsistent. I can count on one hand, the number of consistent African performers over the past 20 years.

The other problem is that they are very inconsistent. I can count on one hand, the number of consistent African performers over the past 20 years.

You're stereotyping and disrespectful to Africans in general. How many Italians were consistent in EPL? How many Spainards? How many Greeks? How many Germans? How many Brazilians? How many Argentines?

inconsistency has nothing to do with colour, country and continent.

He'll come good, Wengers big signings from France always do, might have to wait a little longer than 6-12 months though with the disruption of African Nations in consecutive years.

With back to back African Nations I would question signing African players unless they were super quality or already playing in England. Yaya hasn't looked the same, while Kolo always came back and had issues.

Yes because Nasri turned out brilliant didn't he?

Not always

He's a poor signing I think. I don't really know what first class attributes he has. **** me, even his Youtube compilation before he signed was underwhelming, and those can make any player look a world beater.

He has a club foot - he can't kick a ball properley on a consistent basis which is really weird for a professional football player. His finishing has been atrocious, he doesn't have much body strength, he doesn't have many tricks in his locker to beat a man and isn't particularly fast. Now we can sit and wait to see if he gets any better but then aren't we doing that with half the team? It's that policy that's screwing us over.

We're talking about the ANC but I didn't think he was really up to much even before he went. Gervinho respresents yet another cost cutting signing when we could have invested a bit more and got top quality.

The other problem is that they are very inconsistent. I can count on one hand, the number of consistent African performers over the past 20 years.

You're stereotyping and disrespectful to Africans in general. How many Italians were consistent in EPL? How many Spainards? How many Greeks? How many Germans? How many Brazilians? How many Argentines?

inconsistency has nothing to do with colour, country and continent.

I was speaking in general, rather than exclusive to the PL. Other than Eto'o and maybe Yaya, very few have been consistent over a number of years. Even exceptional talents like Pele, Kanu, Drogba, Essien, Okocha, Hadji, Weah and Yeboah have had massive fluctuations of form.

Your right, inconsistency has nothing to do with colour, but there is a prevailing pattern here. I have no doubt that the mid-season ANC has an effect.

The ANC needs a re think it should only be played every 4 years like every other major comp, african players play in top european leagues and this needs to be taken account of to make african players attractive to the clubs as well as perserving the comp.

Look at boeteng retiring to focus on club football, yaya toure taking an extended break from cote d'ivoire etc. African players are having their club proffessional careers damaged by going away so regularly in the middle of the season and it needs new planning to make the cup viable with the demands of modern european top cluib football, which is where all these players want to be.

I would consider asking gevinho to request a break from next years ANC as its so soon after the last and that he will have 3 of the first four years at the club disrupted for a considerable portion.

He's our version of Salomon Kalou. Simply not good enough for a team with aspirations of silverware.

If Gervinho is OK with playing Carling Cup games, making the odd Premiership appearance and perhaps starting when we're facing an injury-stricken Blackburn side at home, then he is welcome to stay (I have no idea what sort of wages he's on).

But if we get an offer for roundabout what we paid for him I'd bite their hands off.

I don't think I've ever seen an Arsène Wenger signing with such a bad first touch. Adebayor and Bendtner were pretty poor but at least had some strength to compensate. He needs to put on a good half a stone of muscle before he can even think about being ready for the Premiership, and he seems incapable of kicking the ball. His crosses are pretty pathetic and his shooting is both weak and wayward. His one redeeming feature is that he can beat a man and get to the byline with some regularity.

Same as Kalou - if he accepts a squad role he can stick around, but he's nowhere near good enough for a title-winning side.

Adebayor's touch is 50 times worse than Gervinho's!

Adebayor's second touch is a tackle.

adebayor was and is a clunk with his first touch as is bendtner

Adebayor's second touch is a tackle.

His first touch is a 40 yard pass.