Gervinho's role

Oh dear, did you just claim that Gerboue has mental strength?

The same guy that cried before taking a penalty, only to bottle it high and wide? Even a hug from uncle Didier couldn't calm him down. Now, MONTHS later, he plays well for one half versus Norwich and he has mental strength?



No. Just no.

When something like that happens, some people crumble and some people learn from it and come back stronger. He seems to be picking up form again so I think this shows strength.

Gervinho in La Liga would be pretty much him having shooting practice weekly.

What have I said that isn't true?

You're bending the truth to serve your purpose i.e. downplaying, slating Gerv's ability. That comparison with Messi is ludicrous.

Please, I posted stats. Factual statistics based on real world events. How can I be bending the truth? The stats are either accurate or inaccurate. Which is it? There is no grey area.

Of course Messi will outnumber most players, but I compared two players who play in similar roles (dribbling attacking players) and are of a similar age (only one month apart), and one has better numbers in one season than the other has ever.

It highlights the gap in quality between where he is and where the top player in the world is.

The overall point is that if we want to catch up to the top teams in the world, we need comparable quality. Gerboue isn't it, isn't even close, never will be.

Please, are you blunt? You're trying to dig yourself out of this. You know exactly as I that you could compare Messi to any other PL player bar RVP and he would look like an amateur. But you decided to use those number to ridicule the player which you're slating from the day one. Talking about an agenda eh...

Starting to look like you've got an agenda too, mate.

I have already explained the comparison - don't like it? Too bad.

And also, what is it with the personal insults? Nothing should be personal on a football forum.

Nothing personal mate, but considering you've already expressed very clearly your dislike, you're getting a bit over the top with your negative comments. Show some ******* support to our players.

What are the Gervinho vs. neymar stas he is probably as good as him right?

What are rosicky's stats compared to iniesta?

What are RVPs stats compared to marco van bastens career stats?

So many questions so little time.

As soon as I saw the topic for this thread I immediately thought 'DJ Markstar paradise'.

Gerv was good second half against Norwich, and was decent in the first half against Stoke.

I'm confident of him doing a job against West Brom, provided Theo isn't fit, in which case I don't see him starting.

Nothing personal mate, but considering you've already expressed very clearly your dislike, you're getting a bit over the top with your negative comments. Show some ******* support to our players.

For real? You're now questioning my support?

Fail.

I'll support every player at every game I go to. However, I don't feel the need to do the same on a forum where the idea is to debate football and footballers.

How dull would this forum be if everyone posted the same thing about every player?

If you don't like my opinion(s), put me on ignore. Easily done.

I said a couple of games ago that players who have had poor seasons could rewrite their year with some timely goals in the last few games - we've seen performances but no goals from Gervinho recently.

A big performance against West Brom would give him a lot more patience from the fans.

RvP's first season at Arsenal;

41 appearances, 10 goals, 1 assist

Gervinho's first season at Arsenal;

34 appearances, 4 goals, 8 assists


Give the lad a chance. I'm not saying he's going to be RvP, but it takes time to settle at a new club sometimes.

Yeah man. I like what Gervinho brings to the table. He generally seems to have the beating of his man and he can work the one-twos around the box. His flakiness in front of goal is a worry but hopefully he can work on that and we should see an improved player next season (before he's off to the ACN again!)

Well at least Gervinho's beginning to look like the one that started the season. That can only be good for the team. Hopefully he'll finish the season with a bang.

His ability to drag and deshape the backline is awesome, utter chaos but he's a headless chicken. He needs end product but he's relatively young still.

His ability to drag and deshape the backline is awesome, utter chaos but he's a headless chicken. He needs end product but he's relatively young still.

More like the Tazmanian Devil.

While Mark has every right to slate him as overall he has not been good enough this season, I think he has shown just about enough to demonstrate that he could be a very good player in future. And when you consider his Lille stats and performances and the fact that its his first season for us I think he's certainly a player I would have in the first 18 if not in the first 11.

Certainly a good rotation option for the flanks, and I agree with what Kofigunner said previously about him looking like the player he was prior to the ACN.

I think at the end of next season we will have all made up our minds on whether we'd like him to stick around or not, all accept DJM who has evidently made up his mind already

Seriously though, I like him and I'm looking forward to seeing what he can produce at the peak of his game.

His ability to drag and deshape the backline is awesome, utter chaos but he's a headless chicken. He needs end product but he's relatively young still.

This.

Think of how much slack we have given Theo. Gervs deserves the same. Especially since he has the ability and confidence to take his man on.

Hopefully his redemption begins this Sunday.

I think at the end of next season we will have all made up our minds on whether we'd like him to stick around or not, all accept DJM who has evidently made up his mind already

I'll gladly change my mind on him if he gives me reason to do so.

While Mark has every right to slate him as overall he has not been good enough this season, I think he has shown just about enough to demonstrate that he could be a very good player in future. And when you consider his Lille stats and performances and the fact that its his first season for us I think he's certainly a player I would have in the first 18 if not in the first 11.

Agree with all of this, Gerv is a good squad option currently.

imagine if Wenger hadn't stuck with VP all these years and wasn't patient with him through his injuries! and look at how it paid off this year... just qualifying for the UCL bring in 30 million pounds or so and i think we all agree we really owe it to Robin this year for finishing in the top 4

patience is a virtue no longer appreciated in our time... thankfully Arsène is not from our time! lol

That's Diaby's argument tbf.

While Mark has every right to slate him as overall he has not been good enough this season, I think he has shown just about enough to demonstrate that he could be a very good player in future. And when you consider his Lille stats and performances and the fact that its his first season for us I think he's certainly a player I would have in the first 18 if not in the first 11.

Agree with all of this, Gerv is a good squad option currently.

My thoughts exactly.

Bring in someone good this summer, and put him, AOC, Gervinho, whatever in to a free for all fight for 2 spots. If that doesn't get him performing, then I'll change my mind and label him Chamakh v2.

Seems to be showing some signs of life lately, a good game against West Brom will probably get half the blogosphere to change their minds about him.

That's not really comparable. Robin was touted to be world class by his teammates and Arsène well before this season. I for one believed in his class from the moment I started watching him.

Like others said, he is starting to look his old self which is encouraging.

His ability to drag and deshape the backline is awesome, utter chaos but he's a headless chicken. He needs end product but he's relatively young still.

Yep, i agree with bostonlegends. He seems to be able to get into decent positions but atm he's not producing much, fingers crossed he manages to turn it around at some point.

He needs to play with his head up more, but to be fair I don't think his neck muscles are strong enough.

He needs to play with his head up more, but to be fair I don't think his neck muscles are strong enough.

surely his neck muscles must be immense, he grew up with that forehead.

Haha;)

Perhaps he can be played as a CF in the battering ram mould.

I don't see why we need to compare him to someone like Messi to get a better understanding of what kind of level he's at.

We've all watched him for a season.

My own opinion is that he's not a very good player.

He'll be 25 in two weeks time and yet he still makes very naive mistakes when on the ball.

He rarely spots a pass and when he does his execution of the pass isn't good.

He chooses the wrong option frequently.

His shooting and finishing in general is abysmal.

Some are comparing his season totals to a young RVP. Bizzare.

RVP was what .. .20 years old when he came here. He had bags of ability and all he needed was time to mature into a player who could deal with pressure.

Gervinho on the other hand is practically 25 and lacking in many departments. I don't think he'll ever set the world alight for us.

You should use more paragraphs.

Meh. If I had the option of double-line or 1.5 line spacing I would use paragraphs. I find paragraphs on here difficult to read. I know some people hate the broken line style but I find more people prefer to read it than face large chunks of text.

But I'll give it a try.