Politics Of The Arsenal Board Of Directors


Vela (Forum Member) on August 15th, 2011, 10:14 am

Requested by 11211goon.
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Abs1 (Lobby Member) on August 15th, 2011, 10:15 am

I love our board.

danccm (Forum Member) on August 15th, 2011, 10:24 am

mmm...What to say in here? New American Owner wants more money in his pocket?
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4u2onr (Lobby Member) on August 15th, 2011, 10:25 am

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arsenal_aviator (Lobby Member) on August 15th, 2011, 10:25 am

leechers.
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block6gooner (Lobby Member) on August 15th, 2011, 10:33 am

"Sack all the Arsenal board. They are passe. Have nothing more to give to the club at all."

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard- ... l-board.do


oh and please get Usmanov in!!

Popmousse (Forum Member) on August 15th, 2011, 11:29 am

The current board is running an extremely lucrative business at the expense of the fans and the club's history.

I don't believe Wenger nor the board when they say they are not afraid to spend money, that's complete and utter lie! If Arsenal was my business, I would jubilate, the only football club that is profitable.

Things might very well change sooner than later, when we don't qualify for CL and we start losing more names.

The only chance for Usmanov to buy the club is for Arsenal to fall, I am already sick at the sight of Kroenke, this man is not interested in Arsenal.
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Moderator (Lobby Member) on August 15th, 2011, 11:35 am

We need a Dein or Galliani type figure in this club. Gazidis is a corporate guy, not the passionate fighter we need for the club atm. Not that Gazidis should lose his job, but he should get a different role.

Look at how Galliani bought ibra for 24 mil euros!
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irishgunnerz (Global Moderator) on August 15th, 2011, 11:46 am

The board also brought in a relatively unknown manager who revolutionized the club and who also overseen the move to a fantastic new stadium.

They also have not, to the best of my knowledge, taken any dividends from the club, while no debt was saddled on the club during the takeover (unlike the Glazers) so calling them leeches is incorrect.

They may be old fashioned, currently risk averse and too readily pleased by what happens on the pitch but calling them leeches is a dumb comment from people who really should know to check facts before posting
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Inthe blood (Forum Member) on August 15th, 2011, 12:02 pm

From the latest AST.....

# 8th question: Will Kroenke take money out of the club? Have loans been taken out to buy AFC? will dividends be issued?
# Ivan: No dividends will be taken, confirmations that Kroenke has not taken a loan to buy club


# Q13: What is the transfer fund? And what does the fund cover? Who covers wages for on loan players?
# Ivan says budget covers wages and fees, although not to look at the two as separated, budget is flexible?
# Ivan says we have NOT spent their budgets in previous windows. Money is available and surplus could be too…




....Again no talk about actual investment, leeches all the same.
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11211goon (Forum Member) on August 15th, 2011, 12:03 pm

thank much, Vela.

first of all, we all know we are a club in serious crisis.
second of all, majority of us seem to search reasons for huge faliour during last 6 seasons in many wrong places.
third of all, problem that is solved is the problem taken by the root.

I do not know how many gooners know who are the people running this club and in charge of all businesses and money, let us introduce them:

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Chairman is Peter Hill-Wood, man who currently holds around 1% of shares here, as told to me by user here named Candidate.
Hill-Wood was born in Kensington, London. His father, three uncles and grandfather all played first-class cricket for Derbyshire CCC. He attended Eton College where he was a classmate of former Arsenal Director Sir Roger Gibbs. He then served in the Coldstream Guards. After leaving the Guards, Hill-Wood entered the banking industry, eventually rising to become a vice-chairman of Hambros Bank, having previously been in charge of its investment division.
Hill-Wood has since retired from his post at Hambros, and is currently a director of Cavenham Ltd and Hellenic and General Trust.

Ivan Gazidis is chief executive. I am not in knowing of how much shares does he hold if any.
Ivan Gazidis (born 13 September 1964 in Johannesburg) is a sports business executive, currently the chief executive of English Premier League club Arsenal FC. He is best known for his previous exploits as deputy commissioner of the US's top football division, Major League Soccer.
In November 2008 Gazidis accepted the post of chief executive of Arsenal, a post he has formally taken up from 1 January 2009.

Ken Friar is director of the club.
In 1983, he was appointed Managing Director, a role he lasted in until 2000. During this time Friar has taken an active role in negotiating manager and player contracts as well as fostering Arsenal's links with the community and supporter groups. He stepped down from this role to concentrate on the club's move to the Emirates Stadium, but remains a board member. On May 1, 2008 it was announced that he had become acting Managing Director on the resignation of Keith Edelman. As at 27 March 2007 he owned 47 shares representing 0.07% of Arsenal Football Club after he transferred 147 to the Arsenal chairman Peter Hill-Wood.

Another director is Chips Keswick.
Sir Chips was formerly a director of Hambros Bank and colleague of Peter Hill-Wood. He is currently a non-executive director of a number of companies including DeBeers Sa, Investec Bank, Persimmon plc and Arsenal Holdings plc, the parent company of Arsenal Football Club. He has been involved in a number of other business interests as well as serving as a director of the Bank of England since 1993. His father Sir William "Tony" Keswick was also a director of the Bank of England between 1955 and 1973.
He has 20 shares in Arsenal representing 0.032% of the Company's issued ordinary shares.
He is a member of gentleman's club White's and lobby group "Business for Sterling". Keswick has sat on the board of corporate donors to the Conservatives.

Yet another director is Philip Harris, Baron Harris of Peckham
Lord Harris ranked 206th in the Sunday Times Rich List 2006, with an estimated wealth of £285m. Harris is the chairman of Carpetright plc and has over 40 years’ experience in carpet retailing. He was chairman and chief executive of Harris Carpets. Harris Carpets acquired Queensway in 1977 to become Harris Queensway plc until the company was taken over in 1988. Lord Harris was also a non-executive director of Great Universal Stores plc for 18 years, retiring from the GUS Board in July 2004. Lord Harris became a non-executive director of Matalan in October 2004.

He was appointed to the board of Arsenal Football Club as a non-executive director in November 2005.

and finally, executive director, owner and the main shareholder is our beloved American businessman Stan Kroenke aka Silent Stan aka Dont Wanna Be Bothered. He currently holds 66% of Arsenal stocks.
His wife, Ann Walton Kroenke, is the daughter of Wal-Mart cofounder Bud Walton. Kroenke is also the owner of Kroenke Sports Enterprises, which includes the Denver Nuggets of the NBA, Colorado Rapids of Major League Soccer, Colorado Avalanche of the NHL, Colorado Mammoth of the National Lacrosse League and St. Louis Rams of the NFL (the Colorado sports properties are in the name of Josh Kroenke, one of his children, to satisfy NFL ownership restrictions that forbid a team owner from owning teams in other markets) He is also the majority shareholder of English football club Arsenal. He currently lives in Columbia, Missouri. Kroenke was estimated to be worth $US2.6 billion by Forbes in 2011.
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arsenal_aviator (Lobby Member) on August 15th, 2011, 12:06 pm

Dude.. fine that may have been a over reaction.. but we have become a selling club of late.. a club who sells their best players.. or lets them leave on a free and buys young people.. the plan is good and perfect but it fails because as the players develop THEY LEAVE>
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11211goon (Forum Member) on August 15th, 2011, 12:10 pm

In April 2010, business magazine Forbes ranked Arsenal as the third most valuable football team in the world, after Manchester United and Real Madrid, valuing the club at $1.181bn (£768m), excluding debt.

A rival bid to Kroenke's came from Red & White Securities, which is co-owned by Russian billionaire Alisher Usmanov and London-based financier Farhad Moshiri. Red & White launched its bid in August 2007, buying the stake held by former Arsenal vice-chairman David Dein, and as at February 2009 owned 15,555 shares (25.0%) in the club. This led to press speculation of a bidding war between Kroenke and Usmanov.However, Kroenke agreed not to purchase more than 29.9% of the club until at least September 2009, while the rest of the board have first option on each others' shares until October 2012.

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Usmanov and Moshiri are NOT on the Arsenal FC board, yet they hold around 33% of Arsenal's stocks. a guy named Candidate here opted for that that Fiszman, as he was selling his major part, ordered all other members of then current board to sell to Kroenke and he said that could be Usmanov as well.
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Johno (Lobby Member) on August 15th, 2011, 12:11 pm

I wondering how the club is being run day to day basics. Seems they just wants profits and money in their back pocket.
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Lemon Shark (Lobby Member) on August 15th, 2011, 12:15 pm

someone is pocketing the money at Arsenal, remember when we sold Adebayor and Toure for a total of £41 million to Man City? well what happened to that money? it just convenetly disapeared.
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11211goon (Forum Member) on August 15th, 2011, 12:16 pm

yet we have this http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/13941917.stm, from former board member Nina Bracewell-Smith in 28 June 2011, and this from Alisher Usmanov who holds 33% of the club's value - 12 June 2011 http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011 ... er-usmanov

On her Twitter account, she wrote: "I agree that current board should all go.

"They are passe. Have nothing more to give to the club at all. In time we will need a more dynamic pro-active, younger board, and a good directional leadership."


Usmanov on the other hand said

"There is a widely-held view among most commentators – and one that I agree with – that the club needs to stiffen the defensive spine of the team, with a dominant keeper, strong centre-halves and a powerful defensive midfielder in the mould of Claude Makelele," he said.

"The Premier League is one of the most competitive in the world and whilst we have consistently challenged for honours, the club needs to develop talent and buy top-class players. This requires greater investment which, I believe, has been lacking thus far.

"What, however, is not clear is whether the board shares this view. For too long they have seemed happy to sanction second, third and fourth as being acceptable, whilst at the same time they are planning to sell their shares."
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Popmousse (Forum Member) on August 15th, 2011, 12:26 pm

Lemon Shark wrote:someone is pocketing the money at Arsenal, remember when we sold Adebayor and Toure for a total of £41 million to Man City? well what happened to that money? it just convenetly disapeared.


Well of course, the same who pressed hard to sell Nasri to City are not going to reinvest appropriately. Arsenal is a money making machine for the share holders: Invest in young talents, grow them, sell them, make profit.
Any sane business should be run this way on paper, unfortunately, this fashion doesn't work in current's football world where you compete against Sugardaddys who inject insane amount of money into an overinflated market.
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block6gooner (Lobby Member) on August 15th, 2011, 12:33 pm

irishgunnerz wrote:The board also brought in a relatively unknown manager who revolutionized the club and who also overseen the move to a fantastic new stadium.

They also have not, to the best of my knowledge, taken any dividends from the club, while no debt was saddled on the club during the takeover (unlike the Glazers) so calling them leeches is incorrect.

They may be old fashioned, currently risk averse and too readily pleased by what happens on the pitch but calling them leeches is a dumb comment from people who really should know to check facts before posting


I don't give the current board that much credit. David Dein got Wenger in. Danny Fizman was the brains behind the the stadium. Both are gone and now we are left with this lot. The leftovers. I just want the whole thing freshened up. Its become stale/boring.

I mean Usmanov could clear the debts right? Neville said when the debts are gone arsenal will be a force in 50 years! fvck 50 years. I'll be nearly 80! We could be a force now couldn't we if the debts are cleared?

Would we need a billionare to buy players when the debts are cleared? I doubt it

11211goon (Forum Member) on August 15th, 2011, 12:36 pm

too much money it seems was pocketed around that stadium move.

it was promised that stadium is built for us to compete with world's powerful football clubs. in 2010, leading world financial magazine counts our financial performance and puts us with Real Madrid and Man U.

then, you have our own chief executive coming in July of this year, proudly stating that

“We understand where the weaknesses have been,” he continued. “Financially we're in a strong position, we have resources to spend.

“We're certainly not sitting there saying ‘let's hold back on our resources’ for some reason, why would we?”

“The resources are there,” he added. "We've got a substantial amount of money that we can invest.

“The important thing for us, which can be frustrating, is not doing it only in response to a public clamour but in a way that can positively impact our performance next year. That's the focus now.”


?????????

many clubs finished their buys-sells way before August and left the time to nurture the teams for new season.

in last year and a half, there has been so many contradicting reports from Arsenal's top echelon and Wenger himself, in one months we are ready to compete, in other month you have sad, broken Wenger in some press conference after we lost from who knows who telling us "Well, as we don't have financial power to compete with the rest of the rich clubs..." (?!).
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11211goon (Forum Member) on August 15th, 2011, 12:45 pm

block6gooner wrote:I don't give the current board that much credit. David Dein got Wenger in. Danny Fizman was the brains behind the the stadium. Both are gone and now we are left with this lot. The leftovers. I just want the whole thing freshened up. Its become stale/boring.


under what circumstances Dein got fired ? dude said Kroenke was introduced by Dein and Fiszman sold his biggest part to Kroenke and told all other members to do so. apparently, Hill-Wood was against selling to Kroenke - but that shouldn't concern us, the fans. whoever is in charge of that club, and I think it is duo of Gazidis-Hill-Wood - should be held responsible for tolerating Wenger's experiments.

but, basic presumption stays.
Wenger is to be here as long as he makes profits, and he seems to make the best profits with the smallest money possible invested.
no excessive buying, yet you have high profile transfers out, you have PL prize money, you have CL prize and TV revenue money, sponsors, sold kits, tantiemes, memberships, Arsenal TV, Highbury flats which endorse a lot of money etc.

in exchange for that, Wenger gets to do whatever he wants with this club, and that is mainly to experiment and try to fulfill his secret dream - and that is to show the world he can and must dominate the world football with cheaply bought players and youngsters. odd enough, in last year, we spit out 15 milion euros on Koscielny and Squillaci combined, so that made a bit of a revolution :/.

the point is, current board is not interested in top results.
only top money, which is what they get while we are fed with promises, mental strength, quality and potential.

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thegame_24 (Lobby Member) on August 15th, 2011, 12:52 pm

I said it in 2007. With dein gone we will crumble. Guzman absolutely destroyed our club with his antics after dein left. We need usmamov and dein. What I can't believe is how it's taken 4 years for everyone to realize we have a money grabbing board.
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Moderator (Lobby Member) on August 15th, 2011, 12:54 pm

We dont need usmanov necessarily, we need Dein or some kind of figurehead like him. Gazidis is a muppet controlled by PHW.

Kroenke is allowed to fire 1 year after takeover, let's see what happens. If he appoints dein...
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11211goon (Forum Member) on August 15th, 2011, 12:56 pm

but I don't see one single reason why Kroenke would fire anyone ? he bought this club to get more money and Hill-Wood-Gazidis duo specialized on that.
as long as he gets hefty dividends, he wouldn't give jackshiet for our expectations and Gazidis' and Wenger's lies.
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Moderator (Lobby Member) on August 15th, 2011, 1:01 pm

11211goon wrote:but I don't see one single reason why Kroenke would fire anyone ? he bought this club to get more money and Hill-Wood-Gazidis duo specialized on that.
as long as he gets hefty dividends, he wouldn't give jackshiet for our expectations and Gazidis' and Wenger's lies.

Dude, sort out your ****, you make everything negative.
You think usmanov is an angle? Lol
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thegame_24 (Lobby Member) on August 15th, 2011, 1:04 pm

thegame_24 wrote:I said it in 2007. With dein gone we will crumble. Fizman absolutely destroyed our club with his antics after dein left. We need usmamov and dein. What I can't believe is how it's taken 4 years for everyone to realize we have a money grabbing board.
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fuel86 (Lobby Member) on August 15th, 2011, 1:06 pm

"There is a widely-held view among most commentators – and one that I agree with – that the club needs to stiffen the defensive spine of the team, with a dominant keeper, strong centre-halves and a powerful defensive midfielder in the mould of Claude Makelele," he said.

"The Premier League is one of the most competitive in the world and whilst we have consistently challenged for honours, the club needs to develop talent and buy top-class players. This requires greater investment which, I believe, has been lacking thus far.

"What, however, is not clear is whether the board shares this view. For too long they have seemed happy to sanction second, third and fourth as being acceptable, whilst at the same time they are planning to sell their shares."

that's the vision of some one who really has a hearth for the club ...

Moderator (Lobby Member) on August 15th, 2011, 1:11 pm

fuel86 wrote:"There is a widely-held view among most commentators – and one that I agree with – that the club needs to stiffen the defensive spine of the team, with a dominant keeper, strong centre-halves and a powerful defensive midfielder in the mould of Claude Makelele," he said.

"The Premier League is one of the most competitive in the world and whilst we have consistently challenged for honours, the club needs to develop talent and buy top-class players. This requires greater investment which, I believe, has been lacking thus far.

"What, however, is not clear is whether the board shares this view. For too long they have seemed happy to sanction second, third and fourth as being acceptable, whilst at the same time they are planning to sell their shares."

that's the vision of some one who really has a hearth for the club ...


No that's a guy giving sweet-talk to the fans, to get them on his side, and turn them on the board. He makes everything sound so nice and easy.

He's welcome, but he needs to give certain guarantees first.
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11211goon (Forum Member) on August 15th, 2011, 1:17 pm

man has guarantees in billions, it seems.
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block6gooner (Lobby Member) on August 15th, 2011, 1:17 pm

Hill Wood hasn't got money on his mind much has he :lol:

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“Financially, it is a very big deal for us to reach the group stages.

How much you earn depends on how far you go but it could be worth around £20 million."

It is very important for the fans that we are in the Champions League and it could be the difference between the club making a profit this season.

“We have managed to do that in recent years through the property deals but that will not last forever. To go out would make a nasty dent in the income, there is no doubt about that.”

Moderator (Lobby Member) on August 15th, 2011, 1:18 pm

11211goon wrote:man has guarantees in billions, it seems.

So what?
You want a sugar daddy?

Fire who he wants, sign who he wants. you know, it's all his control.

We'll be the new chelsea.
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