Yann M'Vila

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Every top team in England could do with M'Vila. Think I'll be a little gutted if he ended up at ManUre/City.

If we sign M'vila it's pretty obvious JW will be moved further up the pitch. AW said ages ago JW would end up as a CAM/SS so it's certainly possible.

Song Mvila
Wishere

Or

Mvila Arteta
Wilshere

we will have very nice midfield. with useful subs diaby if he stay fit ramsey rozza and arteta or song.

Hmm, he'll probably be available for 18-20M. His contract extension probably guarantees that. It's the same kind of thing Nasri did to ensure Marseille got a bit of money rather than let his contract run out. To be honest I haven't watched him that much but he seems to be getting a lot of hype so I hope he's worth it.

Would love this to happen, could add a real stability to our center midfield. The upgrade that Jack returning and a signing like M'Vila would bring would be astronomical.

Would love this to happen, could add a real stability to our center midfield. The upgrade that Jack returning and a signing like M'Vila would bring would be astronomical.

Do you think M'Vila would bring more to our midfield than someone like Kagawa? I think it depends on where Wenger intends on playing Jack.

To be honest I've always seen Wilshere as just behind the main striker, as he can just drift past players and has incredible awareness. So, the acquisition of M'Vila would be to allow others further forward.

If Wenger brings in M'Vila then Wilshere will always be the furthest forward with Rozza as his backup.

If he doesn't go for M'Vila of Vertonghen then who knows who's on his list.

Yep, the emergence of Rosicky as his old self means we have a little bit of experienced cover in that position, albeit short term and not 100% reliable. M'Vila would definitely allow a little bit of experimentation there, and I've not given up on Rambo being a force with a couple of players who give him space.

I'm fully sold on M'Villa now to be honest. Just hope Real or United don't come in and stop it in it's tracks.

I'm fully sold on M'Villa now to be honest. Just hope Real or United don't come in and stop it in it's tracks.

Same, but I'm not getting my hopes up even though it's clear Wenger wants/wanted him.

Song is really important to the team and could with age and discipline develop into a perfect CM but its all about options and the squad. We will not have him when the ACON come around again next year and we're lucky not to lose him this year, look how poor we were when he was banned at the start of the season for instance. Therefore we need another body who can contribute physically and defensively in the centre of the park.

At the end of the day if Song can't raise his game with a bit of competition then he won't go on to be a player capable of winning trophys and playing for a top club, and thats what this is all about right?

ANY player who can't handle competition for places from within the squad should be sold regardless of their talent or potential.
This means that there would need to be a drop in quality/capability in order to accomodate them without providing genuine competition.

Doubt we would offer more then 13-14m tbh. Especially if M'vila is set on joining us. Infuriating times ahead for Rennes, 6m opening bid and endless hours spent with Rick Law on the cards lol.

Pretty much. Now it's known that M'vila wants to come Wenger will think he can just rape them and get him for fck all.

The way i see it, is if we are going to keep playing a three man midfield then they should have defined positions within it, ie defensive midfielder, attacking midfielder and box to box. We need someone to sit back at all times and protect our back four.

If we do end up getting M'villa i would like to see him at CDM with Wilshere at CAM and Song/Arteta rotating for the third spot.

----------Wilshere---------
Song/Arteta----------------
---------------M'villa------

To be honest I've always seen Wilshere as just behind the main striker, as he can just drift past players and has incredible awareness. So, the acquisition of M'Vila would be to allow others further forward.

I'm pretty sure that's how Wenger sees it too. It's where he was played during preseason.

I would be pretty surprised if Wenger buys a CAM tbh. Unless he plans on converting them into wingers.

He's a solid DM who is good defensively, has a good engine and is very solid in his passing but he doesnt really fulfill me with excitement. I think its because I think that he's very boring to watch. At least Song is more exciting to watch going forward even though Mvila is more consistent and never plays like a donkey in front of the back four and is actually always 100% concentrated

I really think that Coquelin has a higher ceiling than this guy.

Doubt we would offer more then 13-14m tbh. Especially if M'vila is set on joining us. Infuriating times ahead for Rennes, 6m opening bid and endless hours spent with Rick Law on the cards lol.

Pretty much. Now it's known that M'vila wants to come Wenger will think he can just rape them and get him for fck all.

The way i see it, is if we are going to keep playing a three man midfield then they should have defined positions within it, ie defensive midfielder, attacking midfielder and box to box. We need someone to sit back at all times and protect our back four.

If we do end up getting M'villa i would like to see him at CDM with Wilshere at CAM and Song/Arteta rotating for the third spot.

----------Wilshere---------
Song/Arteta----------------
---------------M'villa------

I can hear The Jury's teeth grinding from here

If we do end up getting M'Vila i would like to see him at CDM with Wilshere at CAM and Song/Arteta rotating for the third spot.

----------Wilshere---------
Song/Arteta----------------
---------------M'Vila------

That is a tasty midfield. And crucially, we would have proper options.

Pretty much. Now it's known that M'vila wants to come Wenger will think he can just rape them and get him for fck all.

The way i see it, is if we are going to keep playing a three man midfield then they should have defined positions within it, ie defensive midfielder, attacking midfielder and box to box. We need someone to sit back at all times and protect our back four.

If we do end up getting M'villa i would like to see him at CDM with Wilshere at CAM and Song/Arteta rotating for the third spot.

----------Wilshere / Rosicky---------
Rambo / Arteta----------------
---------------M'Vila / Song------

Fixed.

Doubt we would offer more then 13-14m tbh. Especially if M'vila is set on joining us. Infuriating times ahead for Rennes, 6m opening bid and endless hours spent with Rick Law on the cards lol.

Pretty much. Now it's known that M'vila wants to come Wenger will think he can just rape them and get him for fck all.

The way i see it, is if we are going to keep playing a three man midfield then they should have defined positions within it, ie defensive midfielder, attacking midfielder and box to box. We need someone to sit back at all times and protect our back four.

If we do end up getting M'villa i would like to see him at CDM with Wilshere at CAM and Song/Arteta rotating for the third spot.

----------Wilshere---------
Song/Arteta----------------
---------------M'villa------

I can hear The Jury's teeth grinding from here

Box to box is the future.

If it's in Football Manager it exists.

Pretty much. Now it's known that M'vila wants to come Wenger will think he can just rape them and get him for fck all.

The way i see it, is if we are going to keep playing a three man midfield then they should have defined positions within it, ie defensive midfielder, attacking midfielder and box to box. We need someone to sit back at all times and protect our back four.

If we do end up getting M'villa i would like to see him at CDM with Wilshere at CAM and Song/Arteta rotating for the third spot.

----------Wilshere / Rosicky---------
Rambo / Arteta----------------
---------------M'Vila / Song------

Fixed.

Nah, fck that. Depth is for champions and contenders.

If we get M'Vila then I want us to sent Frimpong on loan and treat Coquelin on the same level as Yann, which at the moment is a competing spot with Song.

Competitors at the DCM would for me be, Song + Coquelin + M'Vila.

And what is this talk of benching Arteta in favour of Wilshere? There is nothing that suggests to me that this should be the case. Wilshere has to get in competition with Rosicky and Ramsey for the attacking midfield role or plays second fiddle to Mikel in the DCM role.

The Song-Arteta partnership is a good one and shouldnt be interfered with, right now Rosicky leads the race in the AM role and its here I feel Wilshere needs to compete and fight for a starting place in.

----AM (Rosicky/Wilshere/Ramsey/Diaby and new signing)
Song---Arteta

Rosicky leads the race because Ramsey has been awful. Jack coming back leaves them both on the bench where they should be. As for Coquelin, the reality is that he wouldn't be on the same level as Yann or Song. I can see him leaving in the next year or two tbh.

I really hope we make the needed signings this year, sick of talking about 'not killing' so and so - we have enough projects and inconsistent players as it is.

If M'Vila comes in, I expect to see one of Coq or Diaby leave. No room for Coq, Diaby, Song, Frimpong and M'Vila for practically one place.

If Diaby gets another long-term injury he will be shown the door.

If he returns, gets fit and jumps ahead of Coq in the pecking order then I would expect Coquelin to leave. Seems quite an ambitous youngster who wouldnt sit on the bench for another two.three years.

I don't think Coquelin will leave, think he's got the potential to be a box to box type of midfielder. For some reason I could see Song possibly leaving in a couple of years. Diaby should leave in the summer IMO.

I like Coquelin but he's not much closer to displacing Song from the first team. M'Vila coming in would push him further down the pecking order - but I'm still doubtful we'll add any midfielder tbh, for that reason.

I have a gut feeling that Frimpong will be the one having a long Arsenal career, and not Coquelin, even though the latter is currently better(when both are fit).

I don't think Coquelin will leave, think he's got the potential to be a box to box type of midfielder. For some reason I could see Song possibly leaving in a couple of years. Diaby should leave in the summer IMO.

Really? I've always though the complete opposite. I think he'll be one of those that stay with you for over a decade and perhaps leaves after his golden years to try something else before he retires.

He seems to love the club and, from what I can tell, he's very liked by his colleagues as well.

I could see Frimpong or Diaby moving on before Song or Coquelin.

Song is Arsenal through and through he'll never leave Arsenal, the only way he leaves is if he gets sold, which wont happen anytime soon. Arteta has a couple more years left though, but i could see Arteta being more of a player who wont mind being replaced and will understand his time is up but still stays at the club.

People are talking about Diaby and Song when really i think that (if M'vila gets bought) Ramsey will be the one hurting from this. M'vila would take over for Arteta (when its time) as the holding midfielder, Wilshere the AM. Ramsey would come off the bench. This is just if M'vila gets bought though, that's what i think would happen at least.

I will say this though, i rather Wenger have a selection headache then a lack of selection.

Don't know isn't Darren Dein his agent now? Could see him going to someone like AC Milan or Inter Milan in a few years.