Yann M'Vila


SA Gunner (Forum Member) on April 7th, 2012, 7:56 am

Enoch wrote:Song is Arsenal through and through he'll never leave Arsenal, the only way he leaves is if he gets sold, which wont happen anytime soon. Arteta has a couple more years left though, but i could see Arteta being more of a player who wont mind being replaced and will understand his time is up but still stays at the club.

People are talking about Diaby and Song when really i think that (if M'vila gets bought) Ramsey will be the one hurting from this. M'vila would take over for Arteta (when its time) as the holding midfielder, Wilshere the AM. Ramsey would come off the bench. This is just if M'vila gets bought though, that's what i think would happen at least.

I will say this though, i rather Wenger have a selection headache then a lack of selection.


Some big words there mate, I'd say its not that simple anymore these days as anyone can have his head turned at anytime. I for one think that Song, with his new agent, could be at risk if our season collapses from its current safety point.

Back to the M'Vila argument, I agree with Fabo that Coquelin is at no place to displace Song right now but Id similarly ask how his managed to make such an impression in such a short time. Im saying as good as Yann is for Rennes do I believe that Coquelin deserves a shout due to having impressed at a higher level. At the very least he deserves the number 2 spot to Song with M'Vila number 3.

Frimpong falls further down the pecking order and should go on loan again or be happy rotating in Carling and FA Cup teams next season.
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fabo (Forum Member) on April 7th, 2012, 9:25 am

Coquelin would have to be content with a back-up midfield/full-back role or move on I think. M'Vila would not be coming in to sit behind a rookie.
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Herbas (Forum Member) on April 7th, 2012, 10:45 am

ArsenalDNA wrote:If we do end up getting M'Vila i would like to see him at CDM with Wilshere at CAM and Song/Arteta rotating for the third spot.

----------Wilshere---------
Song/Arteta----------------
---------------M'Vila------



I really think that such midfield trio has a big risk of being seriously devoid of creativity:
1) We don't know how Wilshere can perform in real AM position in PL league (not to mention a year layoff).
2) We also don't know if Podolski (assuming he's LWF) can create chances on his own and how he will adapt to PL league.

If we do have problems in creating chances, then this midfield WILL start overcommiting to force chances and thus will leave our defence exposed like always. So I fear that M'Vila or no M'Vila won't help us much defensively, if other front 6 players can't reliably guarantee anything in creativity department.
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ebouenolike (Trusted Member) on April 24th, 2012, 3:44 pm

Matt Spiro, who has a good track record regarding French transfers, says we are 'at the front of the queue' for M'Vila.

This one could have legs.
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truth_hurts (Forum Member) on April 24th, 2012, 5:17 pm

ebouenolike wrote:Matt Spiro, who has a good track record regarding French transfers, says we are 'at the front of the queue' for M'Vila.

This one could have legs.


Very interesting...
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Beksl (Forum Member) on April 24th, 2012, 5:51 pm

ebouenolike wrote:Matt Spiro, who has a good track record regarding French transfers, says we are 'at the front of the queue' for M'Vila.

This one could have legs.


Until we have a bid accepted, that doesn't mean anything...
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Vela (Forum Member) on April 24th, 2012, 10:56 pm

Arsenal have stepped up their efforts to sign Yann M'Vila and hope to finalise a deal before the end of the season. (France Football)
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Enoch (Forum Member) on April 24th, 2012, 11:05 pm

ebouenolike wrote:Matt Spiro, who has a good track record regarding French transfers, says we are 'at the front of the queue' for M'Vila.

This one could have legs.


Matt Spiro ‏ @mattspiro
@AFC_93 France Football also saying Arsenal are front runners for M'Vila and interested in Giroud. Both are possible

Its going to be a crazy summer, lets hope the story does have legs.

yousif_arsenal (Forum Member) on April 24th, 2012, 11:06 pm

hope this true come on Arsène let it done before euro 12 starts.
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Floating (Trusted Member) on April 24th, 2012, 11:23 pm

M'Vila, Giroud, Podolski. Sorted.
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Vela (Forum Member) on April 24th, 2012, 11:34 pm

http://www.francefootball.fr/fiche/club/14/14-rennes.html#!/news/2012/04/24/103926_avantage-arsenal-pour-m-vila.html

Under contract with Rennes until June 2015, Yann M'Vila arouses desires. According to France Football on Tuesday, Arsenal is the best position to draw, this summer, the midfielder of twenty-two years. The Gunners had already done the forcing in August and are ready to go back to the front in the coming weeks. Behind the London club, Inter Milan has paved the way. And, to a lesser degree, Real Madrid and Bayern Munich also focused on the case of Yann M'Vila. (Photo-Press Sports)
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ebouenolike (Trusted Member) on April 25th, 2012, 1:39 am

Floating wrote:M'Vila, Giroud, Podolski. Sorted.


That would be an absolutely fantastic summer.
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Floating (Trusted Member) on April 25th, 2012, 2:01 am

Vela wrote: Under contract with Rennes until June 2015, Yann M'Vila arouses desires.


:lol:
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mo50 (Elite Member) on April 25th, 2012, 2:09 am

Vela wrote:
http://www.francefootball.fr/fiche/club/14/14-rennes.html#!/news/2012/04/24/103926_avantage-arsenal-pour-m-vila.html

Under contract with Rennes until June 2015, Yann M'Vila arouses desires. According to France Football on Tuesday, Arsenal is the best position to draw, this summer, the midfielder of twenty-two years. The Gunners had already done the forcing in August and are ready to go back to the front in the coming weeks. Behind the London club, Inter Milan has paved the way. And, to a lesser degree, Real Madrid and Bayern Munich also focused on the case of Yann M'Vila. (Photo-Press Sports)


Image

Edit: Damn, Floating got in there before me!
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Kroket (Trusted Member) on April 25th, 2012, 4:28 pm

ebouenolike wrote:
Floating wrote:M'Vila, Giroud, Podolski. Sorted.


That would be an absolutely fantastic summer.


Those three plus a creative midfielder and one or two new backup goalies would do the job for me.
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Floating (Trusted Member) on April 26th, 2012, 3:14 am

Highlights of his match against Lille:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xD-hLHjn5c8
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jmsmtthw28 (Forum Member) on April 26th, 2012, 6:35 am

My first midfield next summer will still be
----- Wilshere
Arteta ------ Song

but M'Villa can play both positions and if he plays beside Song then he can give our midfield a more solid physical and defensive look and if he plays beside Arteta then he will give us a more attacking look and it will be very useful at home against bottom teams where with him we can Barca type possession football

M'Villa reminds me of Alonso type player rather than Vieira type player
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outlaw_member (Forum Member) on April 26th, 2012, 11:40 am

I think we can only employ

Arteta-Song or Wilshere-M'Vila

Arteta and M'Vila wouldn't offer enough offensive impetus from deep.
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Floating (Trusted Member) on April 26th, 2012, 3:08 pm

jmsmtthw28 wrote:M'Vila reminds me of Alonso type player rather than Vieira type player



He does remind me of Alonso, albeit a bit more physical. Cross between Alonso and Petit/Essien?
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Shue (Elite Member) on April 26th, 2012, 3:23 pm

What's his long passing like?

Floating (Trusted Member) on April 26th, 2012, 3:29 pm

Shue wrote:What's his long passing like?


I've only seen him in a few games, but his passing is phenomenally precise. I've never seen him hit 60-yard cross-field balls like Alonso, but his passing in general is very impressive, and he rarely wastes a ball.

I think I read that in an international game (against maybe England or Luxembourg), his passing accuracy was around 95% or something insane. He's got decent vision too, and can carry the ball forward and spot a through ball.

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dpt49 (Forum Member) on April 26th, 2012, 3:29 pm

Floating wrote:
jmsmtthw28 wrote:M'Vila reminds me of Alonso type player rather than Vieira type player



He does remind me of Alonso, albeit a bit more physical. Cross between Alonso and Petit/Essien?

Sounds ideal.

mavelous (Forum Member) on April 26th, 2012, 4:43 pm

outlaw_member wrote:I think we can only employ

Arteta-Song or Wilshere-M'Vila

Arteta and M'Vila wouldn't offer enough offensive impetus from deep.


also depends on how we use arteta and how M'Vila can handle the lone position if Arteta is higher up the pitch. pretty much changes the whole dynamics of the middle changes, possibly spilling over to how the wide players function (even including fullbacks depending on how the mids cover their forays forward)
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outlaw_member (Forum Member) on April 26th, 2012, 4:50 pm

Shue wrote:What's his long passing like?


He doesn't have the long pass in his locker like Petit or Alonso did/do, which is why it will be an issue if he is partered with Arteta. We could end up passing very short, and lacking impetus in deep areas. Wilshere doesn't have the long pass either, but he will atleast look to carry the ball forward. Song is the only one who can actually hit it long, but he's very hit and miss.

Keep in mind that I'm not suggesting that Arteta, M'Vila or Wilshere can't hit a long pass, but that it's not a part of their game. They are all very short passers.
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fabo (Forum Member) on April 26th, 2012, 5:13 pm

The midfield is lacking offensively aswell, we could get away with it if we had a better front 3 I think.

My view on M'Vila hasn't changed, very good player, don't think he can justify massive price-tags, would improve us, don't think we'll sign him. It just doesn't seem like something Wenger would do with Song, Arteta showing their worth(not a big Song fan, but he's been good over the course of the season) and Jack/Diaby returning. He's invested alot of time in Ramsey this season and I'm sure Arsène will be expecting him to improve in the next one.

If it was up to me, I'd buy M'Vila and an AM who can double up as a wide option.
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been (Forum Member) on April 26th, 2012, 8:09 pm

isnt sochaux about to get relegated? marvin martin is an AM who can play on the RW.
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dave_rwr (Forum Member) on April 26th, 2012, 11:11 pm

Martin's numbers have dropped significantly this season after his crazy season last year. He had 19 assists in 10/11, but only five assists in 29 games this season.

I think he'd be a decent backup, but I don't think he'd be the AM that will push us to the next level.
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Vela (Forum Member) on April 27th, 2012, 12:18 am

Martin hasn't had the best of seasons but still expected to leave Sochaux in the summer. I doubt he will go to the Euros this summer with France.
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Proof (Trusted Member) on April 27th, 2012, 9:44 am

dpt49 (Forum Member) on April 27th, 2012, 11:35 am


I can't see Wenger paying 22m for a player.
We have needed to replace Cesc, Nasri, Adebayor, Toure etc in recent seasons and have had plenty of money available, but Wenger hasn't seen he need to spend big.

Unless this is the transfer window where he goes mad and does what the supporters have been wanting for ages and buy 2-3 world class players.
Maybe not.

Saying that if he does buy him, I wouldn't say no.
What I don't understand is M'Vila going to play in the same side as Song or are they both competing for the same position.
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