M'Baye Niang

In every thread that we are linked with youngster we see some absolutely pointless exaggerrated posts.

People have nervous break downs everytime we don't get a player we're linked to that they'd never heard of the previous week

Here are a few youtube videos on Niang:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1vL6eKcAh0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yToGEJbkAf4&t=33s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9KW0fkTBWY

not much else out there about him. He's relatively unknown (except to people who play too much football manager)

Even if we sign him, there's little chance he will get the UK work permit.

He's french

We can't even use the "too short, next" excuse on him too .

Not being funny, but we could pass on the 17 year old and use the 5m that we are apparently happy to splash on yet another kid and use it to make sure we get a decent player who would improve our team now, and not possibly in 4 years...

Its important to bring though quality youth players but I think 5m could be better spent in the current situation (quite possibly losing our 2 highest goal scorers and assisters)...

Brilliant! are we slowly turning into fking Bolton or something?

We can't even get unproven youngsters these day's.

You act like I'm saying something untrue, Man City have now stepped in and if he ends up there then what are you going to say smart arse?

Not being funny, but we could pass on the 17 year old and use the 5m that we are apparently happy to splash on yet another kid and use it to make sure we get a decent player who would improve our team now, and not possibly in 4 years...

Its important to bring though quality youth players but I think 5m could be better spent in the current situation (quite possibly losing our 2 highest goal scorers and assisters)...

Well it's difficult to pass on a 17 year old who made 30 appearances for Caen in Ligue 1 last season and might cost 2-3 times less than Oxo . Also we have the homegrown rules to bear in mind so we can only buy so many ready-to-contribute immediately players. I see where you're coming from but looking at Wenger pulling out his hair over the last few seasons, he obviously is moderating his youth project a bit by augmenting it with some experience(for clarity I'm not referring to Niang in this case).

Not being funny, but we could pass on the 17 year old and use the 5m that we are apparently happy to splash on yet another kid and use it to make sure we get a decent player who would improve our team now, and not possibly in 4 years...

Its important to bring though quality youth players but I think 5m could be better spent in the current situation (quite possibly losing our 2 highest goal scorers and assisters)...

Well it's difficult to pass on a 17 year old who made 30 appearances for Caen in Ligue 1 last season and might cost 2-3 times less than Oxo . Also we have the homegrown rules to bear in mind so we can only buy so many ready-to-contribute immediately players. I see where you're coming from but looking at Wenger pulling out his hair over the last few seasons, he obviously is moderating his youth project a bit by augmenting it with some experience(for clarity I'm not referring to Niang in this case).

Can we stop with this please?

Not being funny, but we could pass on the 17 year old and use the 5m that we are apparently happy to splash on yet another kid and use it to make sure we get a decent player who would improve our team now, and not possibly in 4 years...

Its important to bring though quality youth players but I think 5m could be better spent in the current situation (quite possibly losing our 2 highest goal scorers and assisters)...

Well it's difficult to pass on a 17 year old who made 30 appearances for Caen in Ligue 1 last season and might cost 2-3 times less than Oxo . Also we have the homegrown rules to bear in mind so we can only buy so many ready-to-contribute immediately players. I see where you're coming from but looking at Wenger pulling out his hair over the last few seasons, he obviously is moderating his youth project a bit by augmenting it with some experience(for clarity I'm not referring to Niang in this case).

Can we stop with this please?

Sure. Rephrase, Wenger's trying to sensibly build a sustainable team from within but is augmenting it more and more with experience.

The club's policy not Wenger's, he's hardly going to go in a say

AW: You know what I said about developing players costing you poitns, well that was a load of **** lets start a youth project.

PHW: Thats great Arsène so when can we expect 50+ game unbeaten?

He has been told the budget he will be working with until 2014 and has made do with that as best he thought, there have been some mistakes such as denilson and wages structure but anyone remember francis jeffers for f%ck sake?

I would love to see AW given a proper budget again (50-70 mil) to go and build a squad that could go for the title but it aint gonna happen at the moment so players like Niang who have the potential to be the best in the world are what we have to focus on.

I don't think the issue is around signing youngsters, it's more around how we deal with them if they fulfill their potential and become world class.

Whatever the reason, and without wishing to go into too much depth, all our successful 'projects' tend to move away as soon as they become established players - Fabregas, Nasri, van Persie, Hleb, Flamini, Adebayor.

Agree with both comments. Perhaps the point I was trying to make was lost in my facetiousness. At 17 if he's made 30 appearances for Caen, I would classify him as raw and with potential but not a project like some of our reserve players who are yet to be battle tested. I would expect some return from him earlier than I would of a typical reserve player.

I just have a problem with the idea that this is very much Wenger's youth project, when he acted and said differently for the first 9 years of managing this club. Wenger spent money on good players before and won us titles, why would he change that?

Simple, he wouldn't.

It is very much the board's decision to reduce his budget, and they are very lucky to have a manager like Wenger who can pull it off and still make top 4 every year.

Sorry, didn't want to sidetrack this thread.

On-topic.

Does anyone have a YouTube comp of Niang? I'm interested to have a look at him.

The homegrown rule forces us to recruit some young stars to have in place as others leave or retire.

The club's policy not Wenger's, he's hardly going to go in a say

AW: You know what I said about developing players costing you poitns, well that was a load of **** lets start a youth project.

PHW: Thats great Arsène so when can we expect 50+ game unbeaten?

He has been told the budget he will be working with until 2014 and has made do with that as best he thought, there have been some mistakes such as denilson and wages structure but anyone remember francis jeffers for f%ck sake?

I would love to see AW given a proper budget again (50-70 mil) to go and build a squad that could go for the title but it aint gonna happen at the moment so players like Niang who have the potential to be the best in the world are what we have to focus on.

Just wondering but is this the same Wenger who said he could have left and had a bigger budget. Why can we not accept Wenger and the board are a match made in heaven.

(except to people who play too much football manager)

i think i see the problem here

Why do we need to spend more than 5m for a 17y.o. striker? We already have enough young strikers like Afobe and Campbell.

Why do we need to spend more than 5m for a 17y.o. striker? We already have enough young strikers like Afobe and Campbell.

Why do we need to spend £15m+ on an AM? We already have AMs in Rosicky and Ramsey.

I love Afobe and Campbell, and if he's better he's a star.

Bosh!

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news ... riker-deal

Bosh!

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What is wrong with City? They're cutting in line. They're supposed to wait for Wenger to turn this raw kid full of potential into a great player, THEN buy him.

Maybe this is going to be Citys way of coping with FFP? Rather than paying £20M+ for our best players, they'll just take the players we are interested in when theyre still young & cheap?

Bosh!

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What is wrong with City? They're cutting in line. They're supposed to wait for Wenger to turn this raw kid full of potential into a great player, THEN buy him.

Maybe this is going to be Citys way of coping with FFP? Rather than paying £20M+ for our best players, they'll just take the players we are interested in when theyre still young & cheap?

It wont work city dont have the patients wenger has, and he will eventually be sold to someone else because he wont reach his potential..

Its disgustedly amusing how City just uses us as their scouting system.

Bosh!

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What is wrong with City? They're cutting in line. They're supposed to wait for Wenger to turn this raw kid full of potential into a great player, THEN buy him.

Maybe this is going to be Citys way of coping with FFP? Rather than paying £20M+ for our best players, they'll just take the players we are interested in when theyre still young & cheap?

It wont work city dont have the patients wenger has, and he will eventually be sold to someone else because he wont reach his potential..

Dr. Wenger.

Dr. Wenger.

lol *Patience

Why do we need to spend more than 5m for a 17y.o. striker? We already have enough young strikers like Afobe and Campbell.

Why do we need to spend £15m+ on an AM? We already have AMs in Rosicky and Ramsey.

Because someone at 15m should on paper come in and hit the ground running straight away some kid at 5m will take time and sadly we cannot hit the pause button and wait. Also 15m signings might help us retain the 5m kids when they reach a level that will help us win the league instead of leaving to a rival because they want to win something.

We spend enough on kids we need stars that are already made.

Why do we need to spend more than 5m for a 17y.o. striker? We already have enough young strikers like Afobe and Campbell.

Why do we need to spend £15m+ on an AM? We already have AMs in Rosicky and Ramsey.

Because someone at 15m should on paper come in and hit the ground running straight away some kid at 5m will take time and sadly we cannot hit the pause button and wait. Also 15m signings might help us retain the 5m kids when they reach a level that will help us win the league instead of leaving to a rival because they want to win something.

We spend enough on kids we need stars that are already made.

It's a balance though isn't it, if this kid really is the next Weah or Anelka, we'll be kicking ourselves for not getting him in. We also need to make sure we have a strong quality in our homegrown players

We also need additions to the first team too, someone in the midfield or wins who'll make things happen and someone to add stability. I do think this will happen too

We probably have a more balanced side in terms of experience and young talent than we've ever had for the past 5 years or so, thanks to the signing of players like TV, Arteta, Mertesacker, Rosicky, Santos and Podolski. Then there's the original youngsters who have developed into experienced players such as Sagna, Song and to a certain extent Walcott.

So yeah, there is place in the team for another talented youngster, without disrupting the balance too much..

Jamie Sanderson ‏@YoungGunsBlog
Arsenal expected to put Vela cash towards new bid for M'Baye Niang. Caen rejected opening offer of around £5m yesterday.

"Arsenal have been told to up their offer in their pursuit of French wonderkid M’Baye Niang according to talksport. French newspaper Ouest France have reported that Gunners boss Arsène Wenger has offered £980,000 for the 17-year old but Niang’s current employers Caen have valued their starlet closer to £1.4 million."

That doesn't sound right...

http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/ ... ion-176885

"Arsenal have been told to up their offer in their pursuit of French wonderkid M’Baye Niang according to talksport. French newspaper Ouest France have reported that Gunners boss Arsène Wenger has offered £980,000 for the 17-year old but Niang’s current employers Caen have valued their starlet closer to £1.4 million."

That doesn't sound right...

http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/ ... ion-176885" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I had read that number before too. Amazing how big the gap is between these rumors. Its like these guys are just guessing.

Will be interesting to see what the fee he goes for is.