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Today "La gazzetta dello Sport", the most ancient, reliable and serious Italian sporting newspaper, has referred that NUFC has offered a three years deal to Roberto Mancini for being the next manager of the Magpies.
Mancini would be thinking about this offer, due to the bad campaign of Internazionale FC that has provoked the violent reaction of some supporters and made Mancini to be annoyed about the excesses of the Italian football.
I know Mancini very well because ha has managed my Italian team, SS Lazio, and I think he is a great manager.
He has been managing since four years and he has just won three major trophies: the Italian FA Cup with Fiorentina in 2003, when the "Viola" were subjected to bankruptcy proceedings; the Italian FA Cup with Lazio in 2004, with the company in temporary receivership due to the financial problems of the club; and again the Italian Cup last season with Inter that had not been winning a major trophy since ten years; this year he must play the final of the Italian FA Cup against AS Roma (the second team of the Capital).
Mancini has always a clear game plan, home and away; he usually makes his teams to play an exciting attacking football, a flowing, fluent passing footbball. He'is similar to King Kevin as far is the football vision is concerned, so I think he would be great for the Toon, and I would be glad as I have a soft spot for them.
The only doubt that I have is if he would set in Toon: he's accustomed to live in Rome or Milan, and to spend holidays in his luxurious yacht. But if he should set, he could bring a bit of fresh air in the Premier League.
Views?

He is not that good as a manager, I think that he is tactically naive, and he has proven that several times(most recently against Villarreal) with Inter. And, he has failed when it counted the most with Inter(Serie A and Champions League), I do not think that Moratti is a collector of Coppa Italia trophies, he wants more after all the money he invests in Inter. Anyway, Coppa Italia is hardly considered as a major trophy anymore. Newcastle can have him, he has shown so far that he is not capable of managing a big club like Inter to constant success. By the way, were you at the Olimpico last night, Mr.Wolf?

[Answer to Mostarac]
Hi Mostarac. No, I wasn't at the stadium yesterday. The match against Livorno is traditionally charged with political meanings that not only I do not approve, but that I neither understand, to be honest. During the game in Livorno me and some mates of mine that had no other ambition than to see the match in peace, have suffered an attack by some fanatics left-oriented Livorno fans that has thrown stones against us. Also the Lazio's players have been attacked. That day in Livorno was one of the poor days in my supporter life. I know that you have a soft spot for them, and I respect your view, but you must admit that this is not sport, Mostarac (be it clear: I neither appreciate the minority of our right oriented supporters, I do not like politics in football).
As far as Mancini is concerned, you maybe right that Moratti does not want to collect Italian FA Cups, but nevertheless consider that he's the only that has won something for Inter in the last few years. And he also won for Fiorentina and Lazio, believe me nobody else would have won with those two clubs that had serious financial problems!
Out of curiosity: how can you be in all the threads, Mostarac? You are a giant of this forum!

[Answer to Mostarac]
Hi Mostarac. No, I wasn't at the stadium yesterday. The match against Livorno is traditionally charged with political meanings that not only I do not approve, but that I neither understand, to be honest. During the game in Livorno me and some mates of mine that had no other ambition than to see the match in peace, have suffered an attack by some fanatics left-oriented Livorno fans that has thrown stones against us. Also the Lazio's players have been attacked. That day in Livorno was one of the poor days in my supporter life. I know that you have a soft spot for them, and I respect your view, but you must admit that this is not sport, Mostarac (be it clear: I neither appreciate the minority of our right oriented supporters, I do not like politics in football).
As far as Mancini is concerned, you maybe right that Moratti does not want to collect Italian FA Cups, but nevertheless consider that he's the only that has won something for Inter in the last few years. And he also won for Fiorentina and Lazio, believe me nobody else would have won with those two clubs that had serious financial problems!
Out of curiosity: how can you be in all the threads, Mostarac? You are a giant of this forum!

I agree with what you said about Livorno. I do not like the Stalin-loving sections of their supporters even though some of them(not those Stalin-loving supporters though) love Tito(like I do), that is true. But, I mostly like Livorno because of Lucarelli and the passion their supporters show. I respect your view about Mancini when he was at Lazio, it was impressive the way Lazio won the Coppa Italia(who can forget that 1st match in the Olimpico where Lazio outplayed Juventus totally in the final), but Mancini has disappointed me at Inter, because I had expected so much more from him at Inter. I have interest in football in general, so I tend to read most threads in here, haha.

Your opinion about Mancini is the same than that of many commentators. But don't you think that Milan and Juventus had much better players than Inter? Try to compare:
Buffon-Dida-Toldo: no doubts that Toldo is the third among the three goalkeepers;
Thuram-Maldini-Materazzi: Materazzi who?
Vieira-Kakà-Veron: no doubts that Veron is only the third among the three midfielders;
Emerson-Seedorf-Zanetti: the same than above;
Trezeguet-Shevchenko-Adriano: Adriano is by far the worst of the three;
Del Piero-Gilardino-Recoba: sorry, I was joking....
Well, after this brief comparison it seems to me quite clear why Inter is arrived after Juventus and Milan, or do you think that is responsibility of Mancini?

Your opinion about Mancini is the same than that of many commentators. But don't you think that Milan and Juventus had much better players than Inter? Try to compare:
Buffon-Dida-Toldo: no doubts that Toldo is the third among the three goalkeepers;
Thuram-Maldini-Materazzi: Materazzi who?
Vieira-Kakà-Veron: no doubts that Veron is only the third among the three midfielders;
Emerson-Seedorf-Zanetti: the same than above;
Trezeguet-Shevchenko-Adriano: Adriano is by far the worst of the three;
Del Piero-Gilardino-Recoba: sorry, I was joking....
Well, after this brief comparison it seems to me quite clear why Inter is arrived after Juventus and Milan, or do you think that is responsibility of Mancini?

yea compare the coaches as well.Don Fabio has been in the game for ages, so as Guss Hindink lookalike Carlo Anchelloti.

Manci has only been managing four years.Hes a baby in management.

I mean Cuper could do anything at Inter, and hes an experienced coach.Hell, no one has done anything at Inter since Gio Trapatoni in the late 80ties.

Just face it, Inter are cursed.

Mr.Wolf

what nationality are you?

how old are you?

how did you find Arsenal-mania?

do you actually support arsenal?

Your opinion about Mancini is the same than that of many commentators. But don't you think that Milan and Juventus had much better players than Inter? Try to compare:
Buffon-Dida-Toldo: no doubts that Toldo is the third among the three goalkeepers;
Thuram-Maldini-Materazzi: Materazzi who?
Vieira-Kakà-Veron: no doubts that Veron is only the third among the three midfielders;
Emerson-Seedorf-Zanetti: the same than above;
Trezeguet-Shevchenko-Adriano: Adriano is by far the worst of the three;
Del Piero-Gilardino-Recoba: sorry, I was joking....
Well, after this brief comparison it seems to me quite clear why Inter is arrived after Juventus and Milan, or do you think that is responsibility of Mancini?

Inter`s squad is not that behind Milan and Juventus. It is Mancini`s responsibility when it comes to Inter losing to teams such as Palermo, Villarreal, Roma(at home) and Parma. These are teams that Inter should have won against, not to mention those countless draws this season against lower-placed teams.

[Answer to DannyDyer]
Hi Danny. I'm Italian, 40 years old. I support Arsenal since the 1978-1979 campaign, when we had the beautiful cotton shirt with the white gun-logo. I remember yet the XI: Jennings; Rice, Nelson, Price, O' Leary, Young; Macdonald, Sunderland, Stapleton, Brady, Rix. Since the day when we won against Juventus with a last minute goal of the poor Vaessen, I'm a gooner through and through. Nice to meet you, and sorry for my poor English.

milan and juve have also lost to weak teams.

You cant overall compare Inter with Milan and Juve.As Inter have worst players, and a more inexperienced manager.

DannyDyer, how old are you?

milan and juve have also lost to weak teams.
You cant overall compare Inter with Milan and Juve.As Inter have worst players, and a more inexperienced manager.

Juventus have only lost once this season, away to Milan. That consistency is the reason for why Juventus are probably going to Lo Scudetto again, and Inter most likely nothing. Inter have invested so much money that they should have won something big by now, EVERYBODY knows that.

[Answer to DannyDyer]
Hi Danny. I'm Italian, 40 years old. I support Arsenal since the 1978-1979 campaign, when we had the beautiful cotton shirt with the white gun-logo. I remember the XI: Jennings; Rice, Nelson, Price, O' Leary, Young; Macdonald, Sunderland, Stapleton, Brady, Rix). Since the day when we won against Juventus with a last minute goal of the poor Vaessen, I'm a gooner through and through. Nice to meet you, and sorry for my poor English.

ciao.Como estai? Ok, my Italian is poorer than your english obvioulsy! Nice to meet you Mr.Wolf.

Who do you support in Italy? Inter? I remember the great italian side of 1982.Paulo Rossi, Dino Zoff.That was arguably the most talented and entertaining italian team ever!

Good luck for this year.I think Italy will be darkhorses.And i expect either Del piero or Totti to be the main man.Why? Because its long over due.One of them has to peform in a big international tournment before they retire! They just have to!

p.s: Whats the time Mr.Wolf? (sorry, english joke)

DannyDyer, how old are you?

how old do you think i am?

Who do you support in Italy? Inter?

If you had read me asking him if he was at the Olimpico last night, you would have known that.

milan and juve have also lost to weak teams.
You cant overall compare Inter with Milan and Juve.As Inter have worst players, and a more inexperienced manager.

Juventus have only lost once this season, away to Milan. That consistency is the reason for why Juventus are probably going to Lo Scudetto again, and Inter most likely nothing. Inter have invested so much money that they should have won something big by now, EVERYBODY knows that.

yea, Adriano.The most overrated striker ive seen in my life!

yea, Adriano.The most overrated striker ive seen in my life!

So what if he is over-rated to you? Is the £15 million Inter paid for him small money to you maybe? I am talking about how much MONEY Moratti has invested and still not won anything with Inter.

By the way, look at the video below, Mr.Wolf. That is from the match against Lazio(either this or last season).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoWSw3Iy ... ch=livorno

I think that the results of managers depend on the players. That said, I think that only a magician could win the Italian League with forwards like Recoba and the actual Adriano who score 6-7 goals in the season! With these players Inter is the third Italian team, so if they arrive third you can not blame Mancini. At least, I think so.

yea, Adriano.The most overrated striker ive seen in my life!

So what if he is over-rated to you? Is the £15 million Inter paid for him small money to you maybe? I am talking about how much MONEY Moratti has invested and still not won anything with Inter.

yea, its peanuts.If a player is not signed for at least £25m then i think they are ****

I think that the results of managers depend on the players. That said, I think that only a magician could win the Italian League with forwards like Recoba and the actual Adriano who score 6-7 goals in the season! With these players Inter is the third Italian team, so if they arrive third you can not blame Mancini. At least, I think so.

True. But, Mancini should have been better when it comes to transfers then, Moratti has said himself that Mancini is mainly the main man when it comes to picking out new players, so Mancini is atleast partially responsible on this part. And, a part of Mancini being naive is his way of picking players, he always leaves out players who can contribute positively, players such as Cruz and Pizarro are left out in favour of "bigger" names.

I support Lazio, DannyDyer. Before you ask me, I want to tell you that I don't belong to the minority of right oriented Lazio supporters, I don't like politics in sport. I was discussing with Mostarac how is sad that one can't go to see the match Lazio Livorno because there is an intimidating atmosphere at the stadium, due to the opposite political opinions of the most fanatic supporters of the two teams. Ciao Danny, stammi bene!

[Mostarac wrote: and, a part of Mancini being naive is his way of picking players, he always leaves out players who can contribute positively, players such as Cruz and Pizarro are left out in favour of "bigger" names]

I agree with you on that. Mancini is not perfect, but he remains a great manager, much better than Capello that wins only when has by far the best players. Too easy to win with Milan and Juventus. Win with Fiorentina and Lazio, if you want to be a great!

DannyDyer, how old are you?

how old do you think i am?

Since you said you remember the great Italian side of 82, I'd say about 30.

I read that there were 1000 policemen around Olimpico last night, that says it all about these matches.

I agree with you on that. Mancini is not perfect, but he remains a great manager, much better than Capello that wins only when has by far the best players. Too easy to win with Milan and Juventus. Win with Fiorentina and Lazio, if you want to be a great!

Yes, but Capello(I do not like him at all) won the Lo Scudetto with Roma with some ordinary players in that team aswell.

Since you said you remember the great Italian side of 82, I'd say about 30.

He might remember Italy from 1982, but he forgot importnant players of that team, players such as Conti, Tardelli, Antognoni and Gentile among many others.

DannyDyer, how old are you?

how old do you think i am?

Since you said you remember the great Italian side of 82, I'd say about 30.

no, im 22.I just have a good memory, and know football inside out.And i watch Europsport(as well as buming on Arsenal-Mania) instead of studying for finals! I think the latter is the key to my superb untouchable football knowledge!!

DannyDyer, the great one.

[Mostarac wrote: and, a part of Mancini being naive is his way of picking players, he always leaves out players who can contribute positively, players such as Cruz and Pizarro are left out in favour of "bigger" names]

I agree with you on that. Mancini is not perfect, but he remains a great manager, much better than Capello that wins only when has by far the best players. Too easy to win with Milan and Juventus. Win with Fiorentina and Lazio, if you want to be a great!

Araon Winter, Giseppe Signori,Paul Gasgoine..what great players.

who is your favourite lazio player of all time?

What did you think of Sven? He really should have won the title in the 1998/1999 season.

who is your favourite lazio player of all time?

I bet on Chinaglia. Am I right, Mr.Wolf?

Contratulations for knowing Chinaglia, Mostarac, you are really larger than life! But if I should choose one player, I would go with Giuliano Fiorini. Last year he's died for a cancer at the age of 45. He was a good player and a great man, with a great heart. In the 1986-87 season Lazio was in the second division and began the tournament with a penalty of nine points; consider that the win gave two points at that time, so we were always in the last spot of the table. Well, at the minute 85 of the last game, Giuliano Fiorini scored the goal that permitted us to avoid the relegation. Unbelievable.

Another player that I love, apart from his political opinions, is Paolo Di Canio. In 1987 the Under 21 Italy squad played against Switzerland in my town, Padua, that is a medieval city in the North of Italy. I went to the hotel to meet Paolo. When I told him I supported Lazio he didn't want to believe me (in my town all support Milan, Inter or Juventus), he presented me to Valerio Fiori (another Lazio's player that played for Italy Under 21), he made me to jump on the bus of the squad and he made me to see the training from inside the pitch. Paolo is a real fan and a beautiful guy, and we say that when we Lazio fan meet each other all over the world, we find a brother.....