Clichy v Evra


PS (Lobby Member) on January 27th, 2007, 12:52 am

They are the new generation of french left backs.

Before Clichy and Evra there has been many quality left backs for France. Clichy and Evra need to know the players who played before them at left back so they aspire to their dreams.

I will start from the 1980ties, as that is when French football first became successful.

Maxime Bossis( 1982 and 1986 World Cup, and Euro 84).
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Maxime Bossis (born June 26, 1955) is a former French football player. He is mostly remembered for missing the last penalty in 1982 World Cup Semifinal between Germany and France. While the score was tied at 4-4 , Bossis missed the next penalty, allowing Horst Hrubesch to score the last penalty, and with 5-4, to drive his team to the final.

Bixente Lizarru( 1998 and 2002 World Cup, Euro 96, Euro 2000 and Euro 2004).

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Bixente Lizarazu (Basque: /bi'ʃente lisa'rasu/; French: /bi'gzɑ̃t lizaʀa'zy/) (born December 9, 1969 in Saint-Jean-de-Luz, France) is a former football (soccer) left defender for Bayern Munich and three other professional teams, as well as the French national team.

Lizarazu, a Basque, has been capped 97 times for France, scoring two goals, and helped them win the 1998 FIFA World Cup and Euro 2000. He has won six Bundesliga championships with Bayern Munich, as well as five German Cups, the Champions League, and the Intercontinental Cup. While with Bayern Munich, Lizarazu wore the shirt number 69. He said this was because he was born in 1969, his height was 1.69m and he weighed 69kg.[1]

Before moving to Germany, Lizarazu played for Girondins de Bordeaux, where he played in the 1996 UEFA Cup final against Bayern; and Athletic Bilbao, where he was the club's first non-Spanish player since World War I. He said he would leave Bayern in the 2004 offseason, and eventually signed with Olympique Marseille. However, six months after signing with Marseille, he returned to Bayern Munich in January 2005.

He has been threatened by the Basque terrorist group, ETA. He also has a stadium named after him in the French Basque country, the "Stade Bixente-Lizarazu" (former "Belcenia Stadium"). His fiancée is French singer and actress Elsa Lunghini. He has a son named Tximista.

Lizarazu announced his retirement from football on April 30, 2006 four days after former teammate Zinedine Zidane. He ends his career with the distinction of the most 'titled' player in French history.

Eric Abidal( World Cup 2006)

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Éric Abidal (born July 11, 1979 in Lyon) is a football (soccer) player from France whose parents come from Martinique, France. He plays as a left back and central defender with Olympique Lyonnais and the French national team. He has two daughters named Meliana (*2004) and Camélia (*2006).

Can Clichy and Evra follow in their footsteps?

Gael Clichy

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Signed by Arsène Wenger in the summer of 2003 from AS Cannes for £250,000, Clichy plays the position of left back for Arsenal, although he had had to be content with playing understudy to England international Ashley Cole. However, he has still made 72 appearances (including 44 in the league) for Arsenal in the two seasons he has been at the English club.

He is the youngest winner of a Premiership medal which he earned in his first season with Arsenal for his 12 appearances in 2003-04.

Patrice Evra

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Patrice Evra (born May 15, 1981 in Dakar, Senegal) is a French-Senegalese international footballer, who plays for English Premiership side Manchester United. He plays in the left back position although he can also play on the left wing.

Son of a diplomat, he soon arrived in Europe through Brussels where his father was sent when he was very young. He was raised in Les Ulis, Essonne, France where he lived with his family from 1984 to 1998 before seizing his first opportunity leading him to Marsala, Italy. That's where he started football in 1986 and fell in love with the game. He evolved notably with Thierry Henry in those early years. They consider themselves as childhood friends. Patrice had a total of 23 siblings [1].

Evra revealed that he had snubbed both Arsenal and Liverpool for the chance to walk out at the Theatre of Dreams.

"Liverpool and Arsenal are great clubs but United is a completely different story. Inter were also trying to get me in the transfer window but there was only one club for me".


Who is the best, and who will make it as France left back NUMBER ONE?

And after Clichy and Evra? There is Armand Traore.

Armand Traore

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Armand Traoré (born October 8, 1989 in Paris) is a French footballer who currently plays for FA Premier League side Arsenal. He plays left back and wears the number 45 shirt.

He joined the club in August 2005, having previously been at AS Monaco. Although mainly a reserve team member, making six appearances in the FA Premier Reserve League in 2005-06, he played in Dennis Bergkamp's testimonial against Ajax Amsterdam in July 2006 and was an unused member of Arsenal's 17-man squad for their Champions League match against Dinamo Zagreb the following month.

He made his first team debut in the Carling Cup in a Third Round match against West Bromwich Albion on October 24, 2006, coming on as a 24th minute substitute for Emmanuel Adebayor;[1] he went on to start Arsenal's League Cup Fourth Round match against Everton. He played against Liverpool in the quarter finals and was praised for his performance.

He is a member of the France U-17 squad for the 2006-07 season, having been capped 3 times so far this season. He is the only member of the squad employed by a club from outside France.

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7_Legend (Lobby Member) on January 27th, 2007, 12:52 am

Evra.

Superheroes (Lobby Member) on January 27th, 2007, 12:55 am

Clichy.

chazza (Lobby Member) on January 27th, 2007, 1:06 am

Evra has been good recently especially against us, but Clichy has been very classy whenever I have seen him this year and, for me, he wins this battle.
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49ner (Lobby Member) on January 27th, 2007, 1:13 am

Clichy.
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cuban (Lobby Member) on January 27th, 2007, 1:40 am

What about draw? I can´t say that one of them is better than another. Both starts regularly in their teams and did well. Evra practically created goal againts, Clichy is also great in attack and they are both safe in defense. Draw
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iskjefree (Forum Member) on January 27th, 2007, 1:49 am

At the moment I would say Evra. But Clichy is not really far away behind. He has all the ingredients to be better than all players mentioned above.
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7_Legend (Lobby Member) on January 27th, 2007, 1:50 am

iskjefree wrote:At the moment I would say Evra. But Clichy is not really far away behind. He has all the ingredients to be better than all players mentioned above.


You have the brain of a woman.

iskjefree (Forum Member) on January 27th, 2007, 1:53 am

7_Legend wrote:
iskjefree wrote:At the moment I would say Evra. But Clichy is not really far away behind. He has all the ingredients to be better than all players mentioned above.


You have the brain of a woman.


Thank you.
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whoztheman (Forum Member) on January 27th, 2007, 10:03 am

at the moment i would say evra will be the first choice for the french team. clichy's playing well at the moment but he still seems a lil raw. both are immensely talented maybe clichy more so than evra but for me he just nicks it over clichy. plus evra is a more experienced player(monaco).
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oba101 (Forum Member) on January 27th, 2007, 11:12 am

I'd say Evra, he's more experienced, and can cross and defend better and tackles very well too, but Clichy's not too far behind though.
People are being biased, that's all, will soon say Cesc or Gilberto is better than Scholes. (maybe :P)
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whoztheman (Forum Member) on January 28th, 2007, 8:42 am

hey! Cesc IS better than scholes!!
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Nyingmeh (Lobby Member) on January 28th, 2007, 10:10 am

Clichy : he's got the most lethal of weapons needed as a left back. Electric pace. He's more talented on the ball, but MY - Patrice Evra has deadly crosses. If Clichy works on his crosses then the'll be no more debate on this issue am sure.
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oba101 (Forum Member) on January 28th, 2007, 11:13 am

Nyingmeh: That's why I chose Evra over him.
Whoztheman: See? :P
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evoh_1 (Forum Member) on January 28th, 2007, 2:55 pm

evra is a better going forward but looks pointless in defense he gets mugged and commits himself to easily.
clichy is already showing signs of being better then evra (man u game motm for me) incredible stamina and pace just needs a better product from out wide.

evra will be turned over by clichy in the french team in about 1 year
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EMIR8_SOLDIER (Forum Member) on January 28th, 2007, 3:24 pm

guys are too biased...evra definetly...he is an arsenal type of player, very attacking and covers a lot of ground like our full backs but clichy in the long run will surpass him and a.hole..
he just needs to score a couple of goals..he is showing signs already of that hunger.. remember when cashley was his age his defence was poor !!! clichy on the other hand doesnt have that flaw
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stuart (Trusted Member) on January 28th, 2007, 4:24 pm

Evra for sure, but Clichy is getting there. I wouldn't change him. Evra is maybe a bit over rated because he is so quick but he is still quality
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evoh_1 (Forum Member) on January 28th, 2007, 4:35 pm

evra is quick but his defending is very poor, it doesn't show up so much with Man U as they are such an attacking force but when teams attack united right side he looks weak near the box his pace gets him out of situations of more open play. Clichy's rate of improvement is great and i think he is the future just with the sort of atittude he brings and a good work ethic down the flank. lots to come from him.
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Fallen_Angel (Forum Member) on January 28th, 2007, 6:19 pm

I don't think I've watched enough of Evra to say!
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Jameel46 (Lobby Member) on January 29th, 2007, 12:15 am

is evra in the france squad? if he's not he should be, i think that both Evra and Clichy have proved themselves to be better than Abidal.
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Maro (Lobby Member) on January 29th, 2007, 3:27 am

Evra is slightly better, but he's 5 years older.

The only flaw in Clichy's game is that he can barely, can't shoot, and is mediocre at crossing. Today against Bolton he ran into the box, was clear to shoot on goal, but passed to Rosicky (?) who was in a worse position and had to pass back outside the box. Is he afraid of wasting an opportunity?

He is a superior defender to Evra...I have yet to see anyone beat him this season except when defending crosses in the box. If I see a winger coming at him I never worry, he even kept Cronaldo museled.

I think after a couple of years when his crossing, passing and confidence have improved he will be twice the player Evra is.

Ricsicky_07 (Lobby Member) on January 29th, 2007, 3:34 am

Is it just me or is Clichy getting faster and faster every week. He looks so fast.

AliaksandrHleb (Lobby Member) on January 29th, 2007, 4:04 am

Clichy is improving hughly. Look at this season's first few games and the recent ones. He is becoming more stable and more intelligent. His runs are great but I hope he gets some end products out of them.
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cesc89 (Lobby Member) on January 29th, 2007, 4:12 am

AliaksandrHleb wrote:Clichy is improving hughly. Look at this season's first few games and the recent ones. He is becoming more stable and more intelligent. His runs are great but I hope he gets some end products out of them.


..and he defends better than cashley!!! the intelligence part is mainly due to experience and training.. another great find by Arsène... :)
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