Life after Wenger | Ornstein: Arsenal set to appoint Unai Emery

[Aevi]

The argument for Wenger has often been about how he is building foundations within the team, but the very opposite is true atm. Our best player is looking to be on the way out, our second best one has yet to sign a contract, our midfield is a mess, our attack is full of player who have stagnated after being persisted with for years, our best CB is aging, our young talents are yet to get proper experience...

Whichever manager comes in next will have a lot of work to do, so we really need to get a good one.

 

[GDeep™]

The argument for Wenger has often been about how he is building foundations within the team, but the very opposite is true atm. Our best player is looking to be on the way out, our second best one has yet to sign a contract, our midfield is a mess, our attack is full of player who have stagnated after being persisted with for years, our best CB is aging, our young talents are yet to get proper experience...

Whichever manager comes in next will have a lot of work to do, so we really need to get a good one.

We need a top manager, whatever the situation. We're competing with Pep, Mourinho, Klopp, Conte and Potch.

Can't have anyone other than Allegri, Simeone etc come here.

 

[Makingtrax]

Leicester City is a good example. We should take action now:
Fire Arsène Wenger IMMEDIATELY and driven him absolutely away from the management of our club to show Arsenal football club is really aimed for championship.
We should boycott Arsenal until Arsène Wenger is out.
George Graham should be the man to fit in this gap. Remember we won the championship in 1989. We need him to built up Arsenal characteristic again.

 

[GDeep™]

YO BrING in MarK Overmarz, and SiLvinyo as Number 2

 

[FinnGooner]

Allegri does have very good track record in terms of results but anyone thinking he's some tactical marvel is way off. In fact, he is very similar to Wenger in that he believes in improvisation and reading "the flow of the game". He is a firm believer of giving playes freedom, basically. And let's not forget, he inherited a brilliant defense when he changed to Juventus.

I'd much rather take a coach in the mold of Simeone/Pep. A coach who is good at organizing team play, most importantly collective pressing game.

 

[Godwin1]

Allegri does have very good track record in terms of results but anyone thinking he's some tactical marvel is way off. In fact, he is very similar to Wenger in that he believes in improvisation and reading "the flow of the game". He is a firm believer of giving playes freedom, basically. And let's not forget, he inherited a brilliant defense when he changed to Juventus.

I'd much rather take a coach in the mold of Simeone/Pep. A coach who is good at organizing team play, most importantly collective pressing game.

What concerns me, dependent on the style of the next manager, is the players he'll have to work with. In order to hit the ground running he's going to have to work with the likes of Ramsey, Ox etc, limited players, who to get the most out of require a more functional role in the team. We're not going to see a lot of the guys who have been frustrating over the years moved on with the manager bringing in his own players, not in one transfer window.

 

[Jaywood Mac]

Allegri does have very good track record in terms of results but anyone thinking he's some tactical marvel is way off. In fact, he is very similar to Wenger in that he believes in improvisation and reading "the flow of the game". He is a firm believer of giving playes freedom, basically. And let's not forget, he inherited a brilliant defense when he changed to Juventus.

I'd much rather take a coach in the mold of Simeone/Pep. A coach who is good at organizing team play, most importantly collective pressing game.

Very wrong. He's one of if not the best Italian coach tactically right now. And one of the best in the world too. He plays it down but he is extremely tactical. Changed shape 3 times in their game last week.

 

[Jm89]

I really would love allegri ! But we are going to end up with a manager like Eddie Howe who will be another puppet for the board to us and who cannot set up a team.

I would rather see Henry get the job rather then a Eddie Howe

 

[rich 1990]

The pressure isn't reduced, what you talking about? You'll have less money than your rivals, be expected to finish top 4 and have your fans demanding a title push.

Probably means the new guy will have time to get it tight. I'm certain we won't go down the road of constant sackings

 

[em9999]

Wenger has agreed terms in a new two year deal I understand, but is nervous to sign it right now due to a possible bad fan reaction.

He will wait until we have won a couple of games in a row or the fa cup final.

But far as I'm hearing Wenger is going nowhere

 

[Jaywood Mac]

http://www.football-italia.net/65111/‘conte-motivates-allegri-tactical’

http://www.football-italia.net/67199/‘allegri’s-tactics-outstanding’

 

[Jaywood Mac]

Wenger has agreed terms in a new two year deal I understand, but is nervous to sign it right now due to a possible bad fan reaction.

He will wait until we have won a couple of games in a row or the fa cup final.

But far as I'm hearing Wenger is going nowhere

If that is true that is vile. No shame and no respect towards the fanbase.

 

[FinnGooner]

Very wrong. He's one of if not the best Italian coach tactically right now. And one of the best in the world too. He plays it down but he is extremely tactical. Changed shape 3 times in their game last week.

Changing shape doesn't mean you are a tactical genius

This is a "coaching lesson" with Allegri from the Juve website.

http://www.juventus.com/en/news/news/2016/lesson-in-coaching-with-massimiliano-allegri-.php

Throw in a few mental strength quotes and it's very much Wenger

 

[Mark Tobias]

If that is true that is vile. No shame and no respect towards the fanbase.

Would you really be surprised by that?

 

[scytheavatar]

Wenger has agreed terms in a new two year deal I understand, but is nervous to sign it right now due to a possible bad fan reaction.

He will wait until we have won a couple of games in a row or the fa cup final.

If that's the case then he's not signing, cause if you look at our remaining fixtures we are not going to be getting a lot of wins for the rest of the season. And it's only a matter of time before we are out of the FA cup.

 

[Trilly]

The pressure isn't reduced, what you talking about? You'll have less money than your rivals, be expected to finish top 4 and have your fans demanding a title push.

Bingo. The only rivals you have less money than are expected to finish above you anyway. As the fourth richest side you're expected to finish fourth, even if the teams who finish above you have lesser resources than you. I think it's fair to say that matches the criteria for reduced pressure.

The bold further backs this up. Doesn't matter what the fans want as long as you finish in the top four. So that fan expectation bit isn't valid at all. You've basically just reinforced my post.

Unless you're suggesting that the board actually listens to the fans?

 

[Makingtrax]

The pressure isn't reduced, what you talking about? You'll have less money than your rivals, be expected to finish top 4 and have your fans demanding a title push.

Too true bro.

People mistakenly think that whoever replaces Wenger will have no pressure from the board. Which is drivel.

The truth is, Wenger has achieved club targets for 20 years.That's why he's been under no pressure.

This year we have spent the 4th most money on the squad and Wenger may well drop outside the top 4, so he'll be under pressure from himself and the board to leave. It'll be the first first time he's performed worse than his squad cost position. Worse than the sum of parts.

 

[Jaywood Mac]

Changing shape doesn't mean you are a tactical genius

This is a "coaching lesson" with Allegri from the Juve website.

http://www.juventus.com/en/news/news/2016/lesson-in-coaching-with-massimiliano-allegri-.php

Throw in a few mental strength quotes and it's very much Wenger

Read the links i posted. Yes changing shape doesn't equate to a tactical genius but he is much more tactic that Wenger. I wouldnt take what he shows in a workshop like that too seriously as its not what he does at match day level but even still he seems tactical even if he does demand flexability and individual in game intelligence.

 

[rich 1990]

Wenger needs to go for starting this squad cost as argument.

 

[NEWMAN123]

I was originally in the Allegri camp but after much thinking there is only 1 optimal choice. A case could also be made for Simeone but the change of style could take a few seasons before we see the effects.

The best choice would be Leonardo Jardim. Now let me explain why. First of all with the exception of Simeone he's a manager who's competing on a tight budget with mega money club(s). Jardim is also a manager who puts tactics above all.

He has had to work with a shoe string budget while also developing some top tier talents. This would be almost identical to what a new manager would have to do here. Jardim has made Monaco one of the most dangerous attacking sides in Europe. When you look at his players compared to the big money clubs this is astonishing. We will never have the best players in Europe. So we need a manager who can create a deadly attack as well as sort out the defence with mostly average-above average players. Jardim is that guy.

Jardim also is top of Ligue 1 with Monaco and they have been the best team in Ligue 1 arguably. We need a manager who can compete with the big money teams on a tight budget and Jardim is this guy.

Another stat for you stat boys is that Monaco have played 28 games and have scored 82 goals So if you want a defensively drilled team that scores a shet load of goals even though they don't have the best players then Jardim is that guy. Do some research and you'll see for yourself that Jardim makes the most sense given that he'd be more familiar with what he needs to do here and that he's proving he can do it.

Guys like Allegri have been managing at the top teams and I really think they'd struggle here because they won't be used to not managing the best team in the league. All in All we need a manager who can set us up against the bigger/better teams and win. Only Simeone and Jardim fit this mold IMO. Thanks for reading.