mm76
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Have you looked at the PL table lately? Not happening.
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Arsène Wenger: Same Old Class
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Have you looked at the PL table lately? Not happening.
ArtetaCognition
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So depressing how little vitriol there has been towards the idea of Wenger getting a new contract. He has taken the club hostage.
Make no mistake - whatever amount of years he is here for will be totally wasted. No major trophies. Our club may as well go into hibernation. I cant wait until he is gone so we can actually look to the future with optimism and dream about competing for meaningful silverware.
I respect his achievements for us as much as any AKB but its obvious he has been finished for years. I hate all this talk about 'is a protest really necessary?' Not only is it necessary - its not enough. I'd understand thinking a protest was a bit harsh in, say, 2008. But its 2017 and we have been a laughing stock for a long time and have all but pissed away the financial and competitive advantage the stadium move should have given us. The man is willing to waste another two years of our clubs existence to pander to his own ego. **** off.
Make no mistake - whatever amount of years he is here for will be totally wasted. No major trophies. Our club may as well go into hibernation. I cant wait until he is gone so we can actually look to the future with optimism and dream about competing for meaningful silverware.
I respect his achievements for us as much as any AKB but its obvious he has been finished for years. I hate all this talk about 'is a protest really necessary?' Not only is it necessary - its not enough. I'd understand thinking a protest was a bit harsh in, say, 2008. But its 2017 and we have been a laughing stock for a long time and have all but pissed away the financial and competitive advantage the stadium move should have given us. The man is willing to waste another two years of our clubs existence to pander to his own ego. **** off.
ArtetaCognition
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His finishing can be rash, especially in big moments. His movement is definitely the best of any striker in the world and possibly the best I have ever seen in my life - which is why he gets so many chances.
This.
mm76
Yer Da
Well written, so the question is, what can people do - the answer is not going and the trouble is for most people they want to stick with the club, it's part of their life. I'm not an ST holder but see going to some matches as essential to following a club (living in N London helps
) - if people either didn't go or at least stopped buying stuff from the club shop and any food/drink in the ground it might start affecting the bottom line. I think it might be starting - the stadium wasn't full for the W Ham game (although they'd sold the seats to ST holders in most cases I expect) and they had to go to the wider membership to sell the remaining FAC tickets which i'm sure they don't normally.I genuinely don't know what else to suggest - a mass writing of letters to Kroenke maybe? But as he's a Tr*mp supporter he would probably do something nice and subtle and use them to wipe his a**e
From Özil's book...
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Maybe Arsène should concentrate on what is important, like scoring goals and winning, and keeping clean sheets on the pitch. The dressing room can be cleaned, you can't get a clean sheet back.
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Extracts from Özil's book confirms what we all suspected happened last year at Chelsea. Mourinho humiliates players through frustration. That's why he lost the dressing room.
The secret of man management is to know that people are individuals and need to be treated differently. Whilst one player might respond to a public boll*cking another will just hate you and plot to bring you down.
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Özil's revelations about how good a manager Wenger is (compared to his previous ones) particularly his rigour and passion for practising set pieces over and over again, might come as a shock to some people.
What is clear is that Wenger gives and demands respect from his players. Probably one of his most crucial attributes in maintaining such a long career.
No matter how frustrated people are with Wenger, as a human being you have to admit the man is 'class'.
What is clear is that Wenger gives and demands respect from his players. Probably one of his most crucial attributes in maintaining such a long career.
No matter how frustrated people are with Wenger, as a human being you have to admit the man is 'class'.
GDeep™
League is very weak
Wenger probably got Japanese type customs, cleanliness, order, uniformity etc from his time there. These things are much deeper than they seem, it's not actually about a clean dressing room itself.
Capello and Ferguson were similar. Before Wenger, you wore the same shirt as your captain at Arsenal, long sleeve or short sleeve.
Capello and Ferguson were similar. Before Wenger, you wore the same shirt as your captain at Arsenal, long sleeve or short sleeve.
GDeep™
League is very weak
Whatever he's been doing has delivered for 19 of 20/21 years.
GDeep™
League is very weak
Can't let people forget it's only recently Wenger has gone off the boil. Until 2013 Wenger was phenomenal.
Have you read this place recently?
GDeep™
League is very weak
Someone described Wenger as a "burden" yesterday. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but abit cheap for me to say that about a man who has delivered for 95% of his time at Arsenal.
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I disagree with you, we came 4th in what was suggested to be a 2 horse race in 2011. I lost faith in him in 2012, I was his biggest fan until then.
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They're the same people who'd call their own father a burden for not forking out to buy a Porsche for their birthday. Even though his loyalty, love and hard work for his son has been unwavering for 21 years.
African Flair
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I think the showers is just for show and he in fact have installed the finest onsen on this planet behind a secret door.
Mark Tobias
Mr. Agreeable
I'll second that. Would be foolish to not admit that.
@Makingtrax maybe it wouldn't surprise you but many of us, despite our current objections, grew to love this club due to the class instilled by Wenger.
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rich 1990
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Wenger made some dismal decisions between 07 and 2011, let's not whitewash that fact. People didn't want him out, and if they did, it was a minority, but there was still a lot of frustration at some of his failings. Don't rewrite history.
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Wouldn't surprise me mate. When he leaves soon, even the most ardent Wenger Outer will pretend there's something their eye.
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