Notorious Big
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We look more embarrassing than in CL.Ffs,what an irony.
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Europa League R32 2nd Leg: Arsenal (3) v Östersunds FK (0) | February 22, 2018 20:05 GMT | BT Sport
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Emery Gone, Telly Back On
Many good teams there actually. Hoping for exciting ties from now on.
I think from now on we have to play our first team no faith on our 2nd team to put good performance
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I feel like playing a big name will get this team to focus instead of approaching the game with the same attitude they did today
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Wait there are 16 teams left? What the hell?
We don't have striker to go the distance in this competition.
We don't have striker to go the distance in this competition.
Giroud12
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No way were winning this. Unlike last year there are some very decent teams this year, the el are no longer a nothing cup. Horrifying that laca is out for several weeks. I guess we just go with Özil as a false 9 next round? Can miki do a job up top?
That's true, but the game still highlighted the overall tactical problems this team has. It's just more evident with worse players.
Allthewhile Ostersunds did highlight what you can do with a set of underwhelming players if you put them in a proper system.
Too often it's the individual quality and connections between the good players that get Arsenal over the line.
And over the last decade this individual quality at Arsenal has diminished, while analytical and systemic apporaches have evolved, and it's gotten to a point where the convergence of these two variables make it impossible to base your tactics only on individual quality and instinct. It's a problem with the first XI, and it's catastrophy for the second XI.
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CurryFlavoured
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Main thoughts - I won't be overly worried or negative because it's our 2nd team, but that team won't go any further in the EL. Nor should the majority of those guys have any serious future at the club.
We all agree at this stage that Welbeck has to go. Elnenny can follow him.
As far as prospects go; I'll try to be sympathetic with our defenders, they play in a chaotic system, I don't think that it's the right environment to integrate young prospects. But I've been a harsh critic of Holding and for good reason. He's been making errors for fun this season and he has no redeeming qualities. Not particularly strong or fast, very rash in the tackle and unconvincing with the ball at his feet. At best he has looked solid, I don't see much potential here. I'm more favourable towards Chambers because I initially saw good potential, but I don't think he's up to it either. He's physically strong and dominant, but a bit slow and sold too easily for a dummy, turns like a bus.
AMN looks a jack of all trades right now. Again I've been a bit skeptical of him previously. He definitely has talent, but as a central midfielder I'm not sure. So far I've seen he has good pace and dribbling, but that's not going to make him into a central midfielder. His calmness becomes a complete lack of intensity on the ball at times, while his passing range is a bit limited right now. I won't write him off but I'm not sure how or where on the pitch he will end up.
Iwobi for me shouldn't be any more than a fringe player. He's shockingly unproductive, and his 'qualities' are definitely overstated. His dribbling ability starts and ends at ball retention, i.e. he never actually beats his man (he actually did occasionally tonight because the game was so fractured). His passing isn't particularly consistent or creative. So we've got a guy who can keep hold of the ball and play simple passes, but that's generally it. He's a powerful young man that seemingly doesn't know how to use it. He needs a lot of work.
We all agree at this stage that Welbeck has to go. Elnenny can follow him.
As far as prospects go; I'll try to be sympathetic with our defenders, they play in a chaotic system, I don't think that it's the right environment to integrate young prospects. But I've been a harsh critic of Holding and for good reason. He's been making errors for fun this season and he has no redeeming qualities. Not particularly strong or fast, very rash in the tackle and unconvincing with the ball at his feet. At best he has looked solid, I don't see much potential here. I'm more favourable towards Chambers because I initially saw good potential, but I don't think he's up to it either. He's physically strong and dominant, but a bit slow and sold too easily for a dummy, turns like a bus.
AMN looks a jack of all trades right now. Again I've been a bit skeptical of him previously. He definitely has talent, but as a central midfielder I'm not sure. So far I've seen he has good pace and dribbling, but that's not going to make him into a central midfielder. His calmness becomes a complete lack of intensity on the ball at times, while his passing range is a bit limited right now. I won't write him off but I'm not sure how or where on the pitch he will end up.
Iwobi for me shouldn't be any more than a fringe player. He's shockingly unproductive, and his 'qualities' are definitely overstated. His dribbling ability starts and ends at ball retention, i.e. he never actually beats his man (he actually did occasionally tonight because the game was so fractured). His passing isn't particularly consistent or creative. So we've got a guy who can keep hold of the ball and play simple passes, but that's generally it. He's a powerful young man that seemingly doesn't know how to use it. He needs a lot of work.
Notorious Big
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Just not Atletico.
lamby22
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Emery Gone, Telly Back On
We'll smash all those teams. Atletico with the godly Costa worries me as the onl one.
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I would work like on cocaine if I only had 4k per week. Maybe because 3k would go into actual cocaine.
For 50-100k per week you would expect they had personal face slapper to motivate them for the lesser games.
We've lost our last 6 home knockout stage games in Europe.. WOW, that is a shocking stat.
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The QF ties are on March 8 and March 15, with Watford at home in between
Notorious Big
Drunka In Friend Zone
No,we're ****,there is no ****ing way we win this,you serious ?
Sammy1887
New Year, Same Hate For Reed
Would love Atleti Madrid or Dortmund and just get this over with.
Only team I want to avoid, I don't mind facing any of the others..
lamby22
It's Not Lupus
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rich 1990
Not A Big Believer In Diversity
That's three losses in a week.
Preacher
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Zero chance, that Wenger will win something in Europe. Bookmakers should change their odds.
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