Unai Emery: Adios

[Lidl_Reed]

Starting to lose patience. We have no creativity. Our only two creative players are Özil and Ramsey. Neither start, and one doesn't even make the bench.

I don't get this. Sure, I agree we need more hard work from Özil, if Emery demands it. And I'm ready to see him dropped. But then you have to start Ramsey!

 

[A_G]

I'm not a massive fan of having coaches for each aspect of the game but I seem to recall Bould was brought in to drill the defence. Does he still do that? Even average defenders can perform above their level when they are disciplined, remember Burnley last season?

I remember Ian Wright a while ago suggesting that Bould isn't allowed to work with the defence.

 

[Lidl_Reed]

I remember Ian Wright a while ago suggesting that Bould isn't allowed to work with the defence. It goes along with something Keown said a while ago, about the time he was doing his coaching badges at Arsenal. He said that he noticed one of the defenders making the same mistake in multiple games, so he asked Wenger if he could sit down with the player and go over some video clips with him to show him how to improve. Wenger said no and told Keown that if you show/tell a player their mistakes, they'll start thinking about it on the pitch and it'll make them more nervous.

Wenger is go ne now though.

 

[Xanth]

Board bottled it by not approaching Tuchel.

 

[Mo Britain]

I remember Ian Wright a while ago suggesting that Bould isn't allowed to work with the defence. It goes along with something Keown said a while ago, about the time he was doing his coaching badges at Arsenal. He said that he noticed one of the defenders making the same mistake in multiple games, so he asked Wenger if he could sit down with the player and go over some video clips with him to show him how to improve. Wenger said no and told Keown that if you show/tell a player their mistakes, they'll start thinking about it on the pitch and it'll make them more nervous.

Fair enough, but Wenger's not there anymore. Is no-one trying to get the defence to work together as a unit?

 

[Lidl_Reed]

I know it's not the Özil thread, but surely Özil has to make the bench?

 

[A_G]

Wenger is go ne now though.

Fair enough, but Wenger's not there anymore. Is no-one trying to get the defence to work together as a unit?

True, but Emery might not have that level of trust with Bould as he does with Carcedo.

 

[2Smokeyy]

Board bottled it by not approaching Tuchel.

I’m not on this Tuchel bandwagon.

With the resources available and the lack of investment by Kroenke, Tuchel would have been the wrong choice.

I personally would have preferred Julian Nagelsmann. He would have been a wildcard but I like his philosophy.

 

[Lidl_Reed]

Tuchel is ****. Never won anything.

We should have just kept Wenger. At least I could have kept hating on him

 

[Sanchez11]

If we need width play the 2 kids we have its better than nothing

 

[kraphtous]

We thought we got the new Klopp and ended up with the new Juande Ramos

 

[krackpot]

I know it's not the Özil thread, but surely Özil has to make the bench?

you either play him in the first xi or don't pick him.

 

[A_G]

Why not? I‘ve supported Iwobi over the years because he was still young and when the season started I thought I finally got it right but since that run of form he has returned to his former self, only a year later. I‘m done with him, I think it‘s time to cash in and get that money before everyone else realizes.

Just two weeks ago you believed him in, now you're done? He's actually played well since then.

 

[Lidl_Reed]

Iwobi, for me, is not a traditional winger. We need a direct pacy winger!

 

[kraphtous]

Just two weeks ago you believed him in, now you're done? He's actually played well since then.

I don’t understand why this is a hard concept to get. Despite frustrations means that I’m not happy with his performances and I never said that he should be a starter here back then, I believe in having him as a squad player which is why I said that I can’t see any of the top 6 STARTING HIM, rather than have in the squad.

 

[blaze_of_glory]

He has to scrap 3 at the back.. Doesn’t make us any better defensively, but we are worse offensively.

Three at the back is the antithesis of proper football. I hated it under Wenger as well. Back four all the way, all the time.

If it were up to me teams would be forced to play 442 all the time and we could dispense with half the coaching squads and just let good players put on a show.

 

[celestis]

True, but Emery might not have that level of trust with Bould as he does with Carcedo.

Carcedo been working with the defence all pre season hasn't he ? Pretty sure Bould works under their direction .

 

[Rimaal]

True, but Emery might not have that level of trust with Bould as he does with Carcedo.

Or maybe defence was always a problem for Emery teams in the past, and there's no reason to expect that to change now he's with Arsenal.

 

[dka1]

I’m not on this Tuchel bandwagon.

With the resources available and the lack of investment by Kroenke, Tuchel would have been the wrong choice.

I personally would have preferred Julian Nagelsmann. He would have been a wildcard but I like his philosophy.

Hmm I dunno, I haven't watched Hoffenheim too much, but every time I've seen then I've not been overly impressed.

Then again their individual decision making is god awful so that may be why their style hasn't impressed me in the final third.

The thing is Emery was doing good things to start off with; high pressing, 4231, we looked offensively great.

But instead of persisting he kinda of got sh*t scared of our bad defending (specially after the injuries) and we stopped the pressing and look a bit like a damp squib.

I think had we persisted we would've become more comfortable in the 4231 or at the very least we'd be potent.

It's ironic, because Wenger was not pragmatic enough but Emery is almost too pragmatic.

We need to have a solid baseline but then tweak each match, but we're making too many wholesale changes and we aren't settling on our best team.

I think Emery might be realising this (2nd half of this game), and I still trust that he can get it right eventually, let's see how this plays

 

[kraphtous]

Emery has always been a cup specialist, but we were too high on the “new manager” stuff to see past this.

Hopefully he can win us the EL and we can move on to a truly elite manager or a potentially elite manager.