• ! ! ! IMPORTANT MESSAGE ! ! !

    Discussions about police investigations

    In light of recent developments about a player from Premier League being arrested and until there is an official announcement, ALL users should refrain from discussing or speculating about situations around personal off-pitch matters related to any Arsenal player. This is to protect you and the forum.

    Users who disregard this reminder will be issued warnings and their posts will get deleted from public.

Life After Emery Begins

Would you be satisfied with hiring Mikel Arteta?


  • Total voters
    235
Status
Not open for further replies.

field442

Hates Journalists Named James
Trusted ⭐
I don't think the club would be stupid enough to appoint Mourinho. There's been a problem with bums on seats since the Wenger divide got nasty.

Appointing a rival team's manager in the same city, particularly one who tried to publicly humiliate our team and manager, would be inviting more problems. Not sure some of our foreign fans understand this.

Ironically most of the people for Mourinho on here aren’t foreign fans.
 

pikey2000

Well-Known Member
The club should make an official poll, like democracy works.

Question: Do you want Mourinho as manager at Arsenal
Option A: Yes
Option B: No

It’s that simple. Like a democracy, the losing side would just have to accept that they lost.

What is this democracy you speak of.........

**retreats into cover**
 

SingmeasongSong

Right Sometimes
Now that we are pretty much all on the same boat, that Emery needs to go, I am so totally going to revive my dream of having Arteta - it's now or never for him, really.

See something special with him and he's of the new generation of coaches, with fresh thoughts and according to almost anyone in the business, also a big figure in the dressing room, somebody who basically brings it all together.
 

sammy89

Well-Known Member
I don't think the club would be stupid enough to appoint Mourinho. There's been a problem with bums on seats since the Wenger divide got nasty.

Appointing a rival team's manager in the same city, particularly one who tried to publicly humiliate our team and manager, would be inviting more problems. Not sure some of our foreign fans understand this.

The best way to get bums in seats is to win. Glory hunters are good business.
 

Riou

In The Winchester, Waiting For This To Blow Over

Country: Northern Ireland

Player:Gabriel
I don't think the club would be stupid enough to appoint Mourinho. There's been a problem with bums on seats since the Wenger divide got nasty.

Appointing a rival team's manager in the same city, particularly one who tried to publicly humiliate our team and manager, would be inviting more problems. Not sure some of our foreign fans understand this.

Agree with everything you said bar the foreign fans sentence at the end, pretty sure anyone who supports this club understands the rivals we have...don’t like the term “foreign fans” either, sounds like something negative...everyone is a fan, regardless where they are from.
 

Penn_

Established Member
Trusted ⭐
Mate I am not obsessed with Mourinho. I am obsessed with seeing Arsenal win the Premier League and compete in the CL again. And at this point I see Mourinho as the strongest, approachable candidate who can take the club back to the glory days.

It is fine if people don’t want Mourinho because of XYZ reasons, but then they serve up alternatives like Arteta, Ljungberg, Allegri etc which completely negates their credibility.

The same people who now think that Arteta/Ljungberg should be preferred to Mourinho are the ones who were advocating Emery over Arteta last year because he was experienced.

And Allegri over Mourinho is also ridiculous. He is a poor man’s Mourinho who does everything he does but at an inferior level. Yes there are other candidates like Ten Haag, Rodgers Nagelsmann etc but literally every candidate carries bigger risks than Mourinho because he is more proven than all of them.

Unless you can get Pep or Klopp, is there a single manager out there who is is less risky than Mourinho and also more likely to take Arsenal to the top? Well I would love to see a list of names.

As far as Wenger loyalism is concerned, some of the arguments to justify why we should pass up the chance to get Mourinho does indicate Wenger loyalism.

“Won’t give chances to some random youngsters, doesn’t play free flowing football, doesn’t represent the values and traditions that Wenger instilled in the club, called Wenger a specialist in failure etc”

Only Wenger loyalists can come up with these ridiculous arguments.

Of course the other arguments that Mourinho has had fall outs at several clubs and creates factions in the dressing room obviously have more credibility than the Wenger romanticism mentioned above, and I can understand why some won’t want him at the club because of those reasons.

Why would there be a link between Arteta advocates and wanting Emery last year? If anything it’s more likely those that wanted Emery because of experience would want Mourinho.
 
Last edited:

Hexagon9

Active Member
I know we’re pretty desperate but any short-term Mourinho bounce would, I think, be outweighed by the carnage that he’d leave behind when his negative personality traits come to the fore, as they undoubtedly would.

As far as other possible candidates are concerned, can someone tell me, when a new manager/head coach is appointed is it a given that they bring the majority of their coaching team with them?
 

Riou

In The Winchester, Waiting For This To Blow Over

Country: Northern Ireland

Player:Gabriel
Now that we are pretty much all on the same boat, that Emery needs to go, I am so totally going to revive my dream of having Arteta - it's now or never for him, really.

See something special with him and he's of the new generation of coaches, with fresh thoughts and according to almost anyone in the business, also a big figure in the dressing room, somebody who basically brings it all together.

Every manager is a risk when you look at it...would totally back an ex player getting the job, could be something special like Lampard at Chelsea.
 

Tomb Bombadil

Active Member
My top wish list with pretty unrealistic candidates for now but maybe at the end of the season:

1. Nagelsmann
2. Ten Hag
3. Marco Rose

Candidates that are realsitc now:

1. Arteta
2. Ralf Rangnick (Coach and latter take him into management)
3. Ljungberg
 

TakeChillPill

Established Member
Unless Mourinho has had a complete personality shift. I don't want to see him at arsenal. He's a big baby, I remember when he went to Chelsea for the second time, he was there to build something longer term. Guess what happens within 2 years all the players turn against him. He had players like KDB and Salah, but didn't give them a chance and continued to spend money.

People don't change, Mourinho will go back to being who he is, which is that he's someone who will bring short term success but long term he will leave the club in a big mess ( just ask Inter fans, Chelsea fans (2nd time around) and Utd fans).
 

Tosker

Does Not Hate Foreigners
Now that we are pretty much all on the same boat, that Emery needs to go, I am so totally going to revive my dream of having Arteta - it's now or never for him, really.

See something special with him and he's of the new generation of coaches, with fresh thoughts and according to almost anyone in the business, also a big figure in the dressing room, somebody who basically brings it all together.
next summer perhaps, but to appoint him this season over Freddie might be an unpopular move in the dressing room

I can see the players and the fans getting behind Freddie right away, and we really need that more than results at the moment - the results would hopefully follow - and if it doesn't work out Arteta will still be available
 

Makingtrax

Worships in the house of Wenger 🙏
Trusted ⭐

Country: England

Player:Saliba
Agree with everything you said bar the foreign fans sentence at the end, pretty sure anyone who supports this club understands the rivals we have...don’t like the term “foreign fans” either, sounds like something negative...everyone is a fan, regardless where they are from.
My mistake. As a vehement anti Brexit campaigner, anti nationalist, and believer in globalisation. I apologise for that.

The sooner we get a liberal world government and become a planet without borders, the better. It'll come one day bro, then nobody will be a foreigner. ;)
 

GoonerJeeves

Established Member
Trusted ⭐

Country: Norway
At that game, it wasn't Raul. This is different angle:

6rfjasg59iw31.jpg

Had no idea Gordon Brown was a gooner.
 

Makingtrax

Worships in the house of Wenger 🙏
Trusted ⭐

Country: England

Player:Saliba
In that case it would tell that we’ve been terribly managed allowing players to leave on a free or for low fees rather than a big fee that would more help the club’s cause. Wenger shares the blame in that because he gave players like Cesc and RVP false promises.
It doesn’t mean I’m wrong.
Stopping players leaving on a free is a complex process involving negotiations with the player, agents and other clubs. Arsenal have a dedicated team for that. If things come unstuck it's not necessarily down to Emery or Wenger.
 

Riou

In The Winchester, Waiting For This To Blow Over

Country: Northern Ireland

Player:Gabriel
My mistake. As a vehement anti Brexit campaigner, anti nationalist, and believer in globalisation. I apologise for that.

The sooner we get a liberal world government and become a planet without borders, the better. It'll come one day bro, then nobody will be a foreigner. ;)

Wasn’t you mate, just get touchy about that term due to my cousin’s husband...he moved him from Sunderland and met her a few years ago, he supports Sunderland...he use to go on and on about how “you should only support teams who you live close too”, and it annoyed me to no end...mate, you live in Belfast now not Sunderland anymore, how about you stop f*****g supporting Sunderland then if that’s your stupid view!

Side note, he always said Arsenal should sign Lee Cattermole :lol:
 

OnlyOne

‘Donkeys don’t have a peak, they remain useless’
Trusted ⭐

Country: England
Would Arteta leave this City team midseason to become Arsenal manager? I'm not so sure.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top Bottom