Yeah, he doesn't have the personality to control matches IMO. His strength (and weakness) is the way he plays on the fringes of the game rather than being the centrepiece of the action.
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Country: Wales
He was so good in the end of season run in under Lampard last year for a teenager. Whenever I saw him he just looked so above the Championship.
Scored or assisted in all but like three games in some crazy high pressure games. He’s got an elite mentality and it’s mad how calm he is in advanced positions.
I like the way he uses both the ball and space. His comfort in possession means we wouldn't lose much in him progressing play - so he can be used in a variety of ways at RB interestingly. How much you reckon he'd cost? I reckon £10m.
Country: Wales
Palace have been linked mate, and they’ve been quoted 10M.
I like Aarons but at 30M that’s way too much when I’d argue there’s not even a drop off to Bogle.
We're after Yan Couto apparently, younger and very technical but very small.
Country: Wales
I know nothing about him, but I’m guessing it would be years until he’s ready to start.
Buying players who are so young is such a gamble because even massive prospects at 16 can not get to that top level.
For me, Bogle is delivering at that high level already, and while young he’s playing like a man.
I agree. I don't think we need a super young prospect currently, more someone who's a bit more ready to contribute. We have an emerging RB who's 16 and doing quite well at the moment so I don't think Couto is quite as necessary unless he's Martinelli-status (i.e. can come in and impress right now). Besides, as I said, very small guy. Bogle at 19 looks like he can handle himself although he's not the biggest and he's one of the better players in a tough league over here. We should really be looking at players like Bogle but I'm not exactly sure what our recruitment team is looking for. They probably look at AMN and Bellerin and think that's the right pair.
Country: Wales
I feel it’d be an opportunity missed though if we passed him up.
AMN clearly isn’t going to be a RB long term even if he’s happier playing there under Arteta right now, and there’s no guarantee on Bellerin with his fitness.
We can always move AMN somewhere he’s happier like midfield. Lot of holes in this team anyway
Flying Okapis
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I feel it’d be an opportunity missed though if we passed him up.
AMN clearly isn’t going to be a RB long term even if he’s happier playing there under Arteta right now, and there’s no guarantee on Bellerin with his fitness.
We can always move AMN somewhere he’s happier like midfield. Lot of holes in this team anyway
Sounds harsh and probably is but I would just write off Bellerin and sell him when the best opportunity arrives.
He just seems to be injured constantly at important times and his development doesnt seem to have progressed enough.
I imagine he probably has featured a lot more than I recall but its frustrating when you want a consistent sold back line and he appears to be out missing alot.
Could command a decent fee to reinvest too.
Wagwaan
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I've been impressed from what I've seen from Bogle. Strong lad with pace. Although from what I've seen from Artetas short tenure I'm not sure he would be the ideal fit.
It looks as though Mikel favours the inverted type full back to the flying overlap type. Gives Pepe, Nelson and Auba the chance to offer the width. So I think a Branislav Ivanovic type full back would suit the style more, just to be clear, not Ivanovic just that type. A strong defensive player.
John Stones wont happen but I'm surprised to see so many against it. He would be a great addition.
It looks as though Mikel favours the inverted type full back to the flying overlap type. Gives Pepe, Nelson and Auba the chance to offer the width. So I think a Branislav Ivanovic type full back would suit the style more, just to be clear, not Ivanovic just that type. A strong defensive player.
John Stones wont happen but I'm surprised to see so many against it. He would be a great addition.
Moah
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Funny thing is he still has the same weaknesses stated.
UpTheGunnerz
Vrei sa pleci dar una una iei
Player:Elneny
Recall Elneny, see if he can benefit from some Artetaball.
Dennis_Bergkamp_10
Established Member
Get out. Elneny is absolute crap, sideways and backwards passing is all he does. We want to get back to CL, not Championship.
Wagwaan
Active Member
I wouldn't say he is crap. He is a player that keeps the team ticking without doing anything spectacular. Pretty much what Guendouzi does now. He isn't a bad squad player but wouldn't get in the first team ahead of Xhaka as Granit has a better range of passing.
Dennis_Bergkamp_10
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So if he wouldn't get in the team ahead of Xhaka, whom most want to replace.. why bother having him at all? We need much better. Squad players can be talents like Guendouzi and Willock.
Elneny is a poverty option to have as a top club.
Country: Iceland
Out Lacazette, Auba and Pepe.
In Chukwueze, Deeney, Zaha
Zaha - Deeney - Chukwueze
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In Chukwueze, Deeney, Zaha
Zaha - Deeney - Chukwueze
-----Rest of the team
Wagwaan
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Never made an argument to bring him back, just made a point that he isn't crap.
I agree he isn't needed. Guendouzi and Willock are adequate back up plus David Luiz could do a job there if in need.
Dont think we can bring the calibre of CM we need in January.
