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William Saliba (Out)

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FinnGooner

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Why would anybody believe this? Some reporters sure take Arsenal fans for idiots. There are zero reasons for Arteta to make any final decisions on Saliba at this point as he is only 19 and has 4 years left on his contract. The general consensus is that he is one of the most promising CBs in Europe so why on Earth would Arteta force a decision he doesn’t have to make. Even if Arteta right now felt he’s not conviced by Saliba, what reason is there to force a sale when there’s no trouble finding him a loan move to get more info on his level and at least get his value up before selling
 

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I actually do believe Saliba might get Hertha Berlin’d, I wouldn’t be so quick to dismiss that.
 

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I actually do believe Saliba might get Hertha Berlin’d, I wouldn’t be so quick to dismiss that.

Surely not. All the talk ahs been he's going through a difficult time not that he's been disruptive
 

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Surely not. All the talk ahs been he's going through a difficult time not that he's been disruptive
He’s been going very public about his lack of playing time and we know uncle Mik does not like that kinda stuff.

Plus he didn’t sign him, he might not rate him at all.
 

Red London

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Despite me protecting Arteta to an extent, if this was true it would instantly make me Arteta out In the grand scheme of things, even if we get a couple of results soon.

You can’t do it twice with young players. There was a case with Guendouzi (which people are magically forgetting and questioning now the results aren’t there). But this would point fingers to the manager.
 

MikelHadADream

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Apparently the journo behind this is the one that said Tierney has no future under Arteta, so I'd take this with a pinch of salt.

That being said, the Saliba situation as it stands makes no sense. How the hell are guys like Cottrel and Balogun getting game time and Saliba hasn't played a minute yet. Baffling situation, the club really is a mess at the minute from top to bottom.
 
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CaseUteinberger

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How bad has he been in training and matches he has played? There has to be some foundation in his playing that is at the bottom of this. Besides that Arteta clearly doesn't seem keen on him what has been reported or have anyone seen?
 

lomekian

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What's that? Another no account agenda ridden news outlet with a history of using Arsenal for click bait and basically getting almost every story totally wrong comes up with some unsubstantiated rubbish? Well of course we should believe it and lose our minds, why wouldn't we?!
 

truth_hurts

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I've heard that Mikel wants to play him at CF. He's been instructing him to model his game on Haller at West Ham and get himself on the end of Bellerin's crosses.
 

berric

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From Ornstein's piece in the Athletic:

Saliba wants to stay in the UK with January loan
Of the many issues faced by Arsenal during their dismal start to the Premier League season, few have perplexed supporters more than William Saliba’s complete lack of first-team action.

Saliba was signed from boyhood club St Etienne in 2019 for £27 million and, then aged 18, he immediately returned to the French side on loan to continue his development.

But that season was disrupted by injuries, football’s COVID-19 shutdown and a family bereavement, meaning he arrived in London last summer without the intended preparation.

He found a different head coach (Mikel Arteta) to the man who was in charge when he joined (Unai Emery) and that always risked bringing additional complications to the relationship.

Deemed not ready for selection in the early weeks of this campaign, Saliba was given permission in the final days of the transfer window to make another loan move and there were options in the UK and abroad. He chose St Etienne again but the paperwork was not completed in time and his situation deteriorated further when Arteta omitted him from Arsenal’s Europa League squad.

Saliba is still yet to make a senior appearance and despite Arteta citing “massive improvements”, the centre-back’s selection chances are further hampered by circumstances beyond his control.

A hectic fixture schedule sees Arsenal playing two matches each week and that leaves minimal time for proper training. When the squad are away, Saliba works alongside the other players not included and the under-23s. When the whole group is together, the need to prepare the starting XI for the next fixture often results in the likes of Saliba being utilised as practice opposition.

Central defence is also a congested position at Arsenal with Gabriel Magalhaes, Rob Holding, David Luiz, Shkodran Mustafi, Calum Chambers and Pablo Mari all ahead of Saliba in the pecking order, while Sokratis Papastathopoulos is another out of contention at the Emirates Stadium.

Saliba’s hopes should improve next season as Luiz, Mustafi and Papastathopoulos are coming to the end of their contracts, which makes game time between now and then all the more important.

Arteta confirmed last week that a fresh loan is being discussed for January and The Athletic understands Saliba’s preference would be to stay within the UK, which may speed up his adaptation over the final six months of the campaign. Failing that, there are a number of possibilities in France.

There has been no indication from Arsenal that they would consider selling the 19-year-old; to the contrary, they remain optimistic he will fulfil the potential that convinced them to recruit him.
 

Goonger

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From Ornstein's piece in the Athletic:

Saliba wants to stay in the UK with January loan
Of the many issues faced by Arsenal during their dismal start to the Premier League season, few have perplexed supporters more than William Saliba’s complete lack of first-team action.

Saliba was signed from boyhood club St Etienne in 2019 for £27 million and, then aged 18, he immediately returned to the French side on loan to continue his development.

But that season was disrupted by injuries, football’s COVID-19 shutdown and a family bereavement, meaning he arrived in London last summer without the intended preparation.

He found a different head coach (Mikel Arteta) to the man who was in charge when he joined (Unai Emery) and that always risked bringing additional complications to the relationship.

Deemed not ready for selection in the early weeks of this campaign, Saliba was given permission in the final days of the transfer window to make another loan move and there were options in the UK and abroad. He chose St Etienne again but the paperwork was not completed in time and his situation deteriorated further when Arteta omitted him from Arsenal’s Europa League squad.

Saliba is still yet to make a senior appearance and despite Arteta citing “massive improvements”, the centre-back’s selection chances are further hampered by circumstances beyond his control.

A hectic fixture schedule sees Arsenal playing two matches each week and that leaves minimal time for proper training. When the squad are away, Saliba works alongside the other players not included and the under-23s. When the whole group is together, the need to prepare the starting XI for the next fixture often results in the likes of Saliba being utilised as practice opposition.

Central defence is also a congested position at Arsenal with Gabriel Magalhaes, Rob Holding, David Luiz, Shkodran Mustafi, Calum Chambers and Pablo Mari all ahead of Saliba in the pecking order, while Sokratis Papastathopoulos is another out of contention at the Emirates Stadium.

Saliba’s hopes should improve next season as Luiz, Mustafi and Papastathopoulos are coming to the end of their contracts, which makes game time between now and then all the more important.

Arteta confirmed last week that a fresh loan is being discussed for January and The Athletic understands Saliba’s preference would be to stay within the UK, which may speed up his adaptation over the final six months of the campaign. Failing that, there are a number of possibilities in France.

There has been no indication from Arsenal that they would consider selling the 19-year-old; to the contrary, they remain optimistic he will fulfil the potential that convinced them to recruit him.

Quite happy with that, means he isn't unsettled by just the country. Analyse which teams have injuries / need a defender in January, hopefully 1 like Brentford / Norwich if in the Championship that play decent front foot football. Could buy Buendia & offer Smith-Rowe & Saliba on loan as a sweetner for instance.
 

Wrighty4eva

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Cant see the Saliba one being true. Unless he has a huge flaw in his game which is possible considering how easy we signed him and how Arteta seems to not want anything to do with him. Weird.
There was plenty of competition when were in for him if I remember correctly so it wasn't that easy, So I doubt it's a flaw, I would believe it was more personal considering Arteta's track record dealing with young players.
 
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