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Keplaz

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All these guys advocating this signing are the same ones talking smack about us signing Willian. He is almost exactly a year younger and will be 32 in the summer when he signs.

He also was a Chelsea player, although better known for his time at Southampton. I don't want Bertrand. Tired of these aging players in crucial positions for us.

Even as a backup to Tierney.
 

HairSprayGooners

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All these guys advocating this signing are the same ones talking smack about us signing Willian. He is almost exactly a year younger and will be 32 in the summer when he signs.

He also was a Chelsea player, although better known for his time at Southampton. I don't want Bertrand. Tired of these aging players in crucial positions for us.

Even as a backup to Tierney.

Tierney is 23 years old and is likely to be our left back and probably our captain for the next 5+ years.

It wouldn't be wise to sign a younger left back at this stage. Bertrand or someone similar is perfect for a couple of years. Then you look towards signing maybe a 17/18 year old who can fill in when needed and learn from KT.
 

Keplaz

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Tierney is 23 years old and is likely to be our left back and probably our captain for the next 5+ years.

It wouldn't be wise to sign a younger left back at this stage. Bertrand or someone similar is perfect for a couple of years. Then you look towards signing maybe a 17/18 year old who can fill in when needed and learn from KT.

Liechtensteiner was older granted but its the same profile. And even as a backup he was shocking. You want someone to compete with Tierney who one we can at least develop with a resale value.

He is also heavily reliant on pace. No one knows when the legs go. He loses a yard of pace and 50% of his game is lost, especially how we play the game.

Sign someone between 20 and 23. Develop them if he becomes as good as a Tierney then do an Emi and cash in. You also create competition and have a reliable backup when Tierney picks up a knock.

Tired of theses aging matadors looking for one last big payday.
 

HairSprayGooners

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Liechtensteiner was older granted but its the same profile. And even as a backup he was shocking. You want someone to compete with Tierney who one we can at least develop with a resale value.

He is also heavily reliant on pace. No one knows when the legs go. He loses a yard of pace and 50% of his game is lost, especially how we play the game.

Sign someone between 20 and 23. Develop them if he becomes as good as a Tierney then do an Emi and cash in. You also create competition and have a reliable backup when Tierney picks up a knock.

Tired of theses aging matadors looking for one last big payday.

Not the best comparison considering Bertrand is a premier league left back still playing at a good level.

The thing is how are you going to develop another 20-23 year old left back when Tierney will be playing 90% of the games? Hopefully we get someone coming through the academy. I swear we had a left back under the name Lopez who was meant to be pretty good?
 

Keplaz

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Not the best comparison considering Bertrand is a premier league left back still playing at a good level.

The thing is how are you going to develop another 20-23 year old left back when Tierney will be playing 90% of the games? Hopefully we get someone coming through the academy. I swear we had a left back under the name Lopez who was meant to be pretty good?
I think we do, he was nicked from Barcelona. A good player from what I've heard but people like Mutable would know more about him.

Bertrand is a quality player, don't get me wrong. But my worry is his age and, well, Willian. He was doing bits at Chelsea but doesn't look like he can even kick a ball anymore. And you just don't know when the decline will hit them.

Willian was proven PL as well. With real pedigree. Only reason I compare him to Leichensteiner is because both are full backs who rely on pace. And both are older players moving on a free.

But anyhow this is Arsenal. Que sera sera.
 

gunner4lyfe

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Tierney is 23 years old and is likely to be our left back and probably our captain for the next 5+ years.

It wouldn't be wise to sign a younger left back at this stage. Bertrand or someone similar is perfect for a couple of years. Then you look towards signing maybe a 17/18 year old who can fill in when needed and learn from KT.
I disagree. Sign a younger left back who we can sell in a couple of years. If we sign a older player we'll just be letting him go for free after those same amount of years
 

Ciscoo

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Liechtensteiner was older granted but its the same profile. And even as a backup he was shocking. You want someone to compete with Tierney who one we can at least develop with a resale value.

He is also heavily reliant on pace. No one knows when the legs go. He loses a yard of pace and 50% of his game is lost, especially how we play the game.

Sign someone between 20 and 23. Develop them if he becomes as good as a Tierney then do an Emi and cash in. You also create competition and have a reliable backup when Tierney picks up a knock.

Tired of theses aging matadors looking for one last big payday.

Bertrand was a serial loanee/sub until he was 25 and hasn’t really broken into the national team. I think that might prolong his career a little. He’d be an excellent signing IMO.

For comparison sake, Willian and Lichtsteiner had like 200+ more games worth of football by the time they arrived here. Whereas guys like Vardy and Wrighty had more similar careers and kept their athleticism until very late on.
 
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Tom349

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Get Bertrand and sign a 16/17 year old up and coming left back like Thierry Smalls who can spend a season in the u23's followed by a loan by which time Bertrand career will be coming to a close and hopefully the 16/17 left back Smalls in this case is ready to deputise.
 

Dutch D

Well-Known Member & FPL Champion 19/20
Get Bertrand and sign a 16/17 year old up and coming left back like Thierry Smalls who can spend a season in the u23's followed by a loan by which time Bertrand career will be coming to a close and hopefully the 16/17 left back Smalls in this case is ready to deputise.
We have such a player in our academy already.
 

Toby

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Sign someone between 20 and 23. Develop them if he becomes as good as a Tierney then do an Emi and cash in.

There's no developing when they ain't playing or getting one, two games here and there when Tierney is rested. Bertrand is a bit old, but there's players out there just like him but a few years younger, that'll absolutely do. Rightback is where a young talent is needed to create competition and potentially develop.
 

TornadoTed

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Forget this guy. Tyrick Mitchell is available on a free. 21, PL experience, plenty of room to improve. Let’s get him. The worst we’ll do is turn a tidy profit if he doesn’t amount to much.

But how is he going to improve and develop when he is playing 10 games a season, Tierney is one of the first names on the team sheet.
 

Melquiades

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But how is he going to improve and develop when he is playing 10 games a season, Tierney is one of the first names on the team sheet.

Yeah, this is the problem.

If we were playing in the CL, it might be a different story. Between that and Cups and some league games, you could probably promise him 25 games as Tierney's backup and that might be enticing on a short-term deal.

But we don't have a guarantee of any Europe games right now, so backing up Tierney means basically no game action at all barring an injury. And the only way a move to a team at a similar spot in the PL table for less playing time would be enticing to Bertrand is if we give him some sort of stupid 4-year contract on a massive wage. And we've made that mistake enough already.
 
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