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Manager Wish-List Thread

Who do you want?

  • Brendan Rodgers

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  • Antonio Conte

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  • Christophe Galtier

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  • Roberto Martinez

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  • Paulo Fonseca

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  • Gian Piero Gasperini

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  • Total voters
    23

krengon

One Arsène Wenger
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Brendan Rodgers and Luis Campos along with a superstar forward and proper midfield players. Gabriel-Saliba at the back. New right back. That's a 200m plus outlay. Good job this is a wish list thread.

Campos was free for a period too, I don't think we even tried to get him smh. Would have been the best signing we could have made.
 

isop

Active Member
Favre is my first choice personally.

-Plays attractive football

-Tactically flexible

-Believes in youth and develops young players very well

-Has a history of overachieveing with teams on a low budget, taking mid table teams to the top 4

-Hertha Berlin had finished 10th, he was appointed the next season and took them to 4th, despite only having the 13th largest budget in the league

-Gladbach were heading for relegation, 7 points from safety when he was appointed, he kept them up (just about, lol), then finished 4th the next season, they sold key players like Reus, then finished 8th, bought key players, finished 6th, then 3rd

-Got Nice into a three-team title race (the year that Monaco won it with Mbappe and co.) until pretty much the end of the season and a 3rd placed finish, their highest for decades

-Restored Dortmund from their slump into finishing 2 points behind Bayern, taking the title race to the last day of the season


Not that his time at Dortmund was flawless, but still, he does have the highest win percentage of any Dortmund manager, even better than Klopp's. He only lasted 2 and a half seasons at Dortmund, so there are questions over his sustainability at a bigger club, but overall his time there was a success in my opinion. I think he is an ideal manager for our situation at the moment.

I also like Erik Ten Hag as a good alternative. There's a few more I'm keeping my eyes on, but Favre first and Ten Hag second for me.

What are the thoughts on Favre? I posted this a few pages ago, I think he'd be a decent fit for us.
 

Toby

No longer a Stuttgart Fan
Moderator
Genuine question, although it would've seemed utterly insane not long ago: If you had the option to replace Arteta with Moyes this summer, would you do it?

Honestly think his track record of relative stability in terms of league performance would be somewhat attractive to your owners. He's never really had proper backing at a big club, and his only shot was taking over from Ferguson which was always going to be a borderline impossible task to do to a satisfactory level. Give him more resources than he's worked with historically (which isn't much, our squad is basically a collection of bargain bin signings) and he'll at the very least raise the floor enough to remain competitive in the league.

Think he could do a great job with your current squad tbh. Players like Pepe, Saka and Martinelli would be absolutely lethal in his system, but you'd have to accept a simpler style of play that is, quite frankly, miles away from Wengerball.

Imo the club doesn't need stability but progress, even if that means at first taking a step back in lowering expectations regarding a serious Top 4 finish and I think Moyes isn't the one to bring this about, but a rather big role in my thinking plays the context Arteta is going to finish the season. Say Arteta had gotten sacked in December on Januaray, Moyes, Benitez and the like would've been legit options for me to steady the ship, slvage this season and bring about a bit more stability in a second season, then let someone more progressive take over. But as things stand they let Arteta finish the season anyway and Arsenal has hit rock bottom, so I see no sense in a "stability manager", just hit the reset button and start a proper rebuild with proper people at the helm.
 

MikelHadADream

Established Member
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Maybe replace Campos x Rodgers with Rangnick x Ten Haag ?

Not sure about Ten Haag to be honest mate, I'm quite skeptical about Ajax and the Dutch league.

Ragnick is apparently excellent as well, would be over the moon with him.

I just think Rodgers is an ideal fit for these players, especially the forwards and young guys.
 

Toby

No longer a Stuttgart Fan
Moderator
What are the thoughts on Favre? I posted this a few pages ago, I think he'd be a decent fit for us.

Imo a very good shout, wrote something very similar to your post why his Dortmund time has shown he probably wouldn't have been a good appointment right after Wenger - admitting here that at that time I wanted him at Arsenal - but would be a good shout in this current climate. Imo you either go for someone like Favre or someone like Potter with a proper DoF, alternatively you go for the almight Rangnick option.
 

Toby

No longer a Stuttgart Fan
Moderator
Not sure about Ten Haag to be honest mate, I'm quite skeptical about Ajax and the Dutch league.

Same for me. But tbh Ten Hag or even Bosz at least have coherent concepts of how they want their teams to play and achieve that. They concede tons of goals but their attacking play is excellent and at least there would be some sort of handwriting. Definitely not my top choices right now but miles better than Arteta.
 

Toby

No longer a Stuttgart Fan
Moderator
He is some chance to win the French league with a Lille side that has had some of its top players poached by us. To beat PSG would be a tremendous result. The Lille players we bought have been a bit underwhelming here; so it makes more sense to go for the manager that turned them into stars at Lille.

Anyone got more insight into how Galtier actually has his teams play? Maybe @BobP or @carlito'sway ?
 

Toby

No longer a Stuttgart Fan
Moderator
Campos was free for a period too, I don't think we even tried to get him smh. Would have been the best signing we could have made.

He's free right now again. Question with him is how much of a vision/project/concept worker is he to mold a club to a specific identity so it can longterm follow that - or is he rather a "mere" transfer/scouting guru?
 

isop

Active Member
Imo a very good shout, wrote something very similar to your post why his Dortmund time has shown he probably wouldn't have been a good appointment right after Wenger - admitting here that at that time I wanted him at Arsenal - but would be a good shout in this current climate. Imo you either go for someone like Favre or someone like Potter with a proper DoF, alternatively you go for the almight Rangnick option.
Yes, I remember reading your post on him and agreeing. Back then probably not right after Wenger, but right now I really think he could do a decent job.

Potter is a very good coach, and he's one to consider as well. If Rangnick is still interested in coaching, it would also be a shrewd choice. Either a s a coach or DoF or both, we'd be in good hands with him.
 

UpTheGunnerz

Vrei sa pleci dar una una iei

Player:Elneny
Anybody know the African market for managers? Must be some hidden gem out there, being the new Arsenio di Wengeristinha.
We might have to think outside the box, for me, Clifton.
 

isop

Active Member
Anyone got more insight into how Galtier actually has his teams play? Maybe @BobP or @carlito'sway ?
Watching Lille in Ligue 1 they play really nice football. They can control matches, structure their play with good combinations, everyone knows their job/role on the pitch, it's creative, pleasing on the eye, with passing options on the ball, good movement, and they are also defensively organized, its pretty good.

Galtier has done a very good job there, they were heading for relegation, he rescued them then took them into the top 4, and now he's three wins away from the title, if they can get over the line, in what has been a great title race in France involving 4 teams.

I heard on the Talksport Trans Euro Express show (great live radio/on demand podcast show by the way for insights into European and also South American football) that Galtier is traditionally a very gritty and defensive coach, but the Lille team I'm watching is more attacking than that. They said Bielsa almost ran this team into the ground. But I'm wondering if Bielsa's imprint is still there somehow.

As soon Bielsa he came in he basically did a clear out, some experienced guys and other players that didn't fit his style (e.g. the club captain and veteran Mavuba) were told to find new clubs, and he and Ocampos brought in some young, hungry, high stamina players that would fit in with Bielsa's approach, including our very own Nicolas Pepe. It didnt' work out for Bielsa, but the way they play right now, I'm wondering if the training that Bielsa sdid with them, the high pressing, high energy, run all day approach, excellent pass and move football has sort of been taken on by Galtier and refined with good defensive play as well.

Galtier is wanted by Lyon and Nice, and apparently he'd be open to a move. Lille are in financial trouble, and may need to sell off their talents to relieve debt, so maybe Galtier is thinking about how much longer he'll be able to keep them at the top if they have to asset strip the club. Nice's new owner is ambitious, the richest man in Britain, Radcliffe; they have a nice stadium and plans for the top. Lyon are one of the biggest clubs in France and can usually spend decent money and attract good players.

I considered Galtier as well, but when I heard on the Talksport Trans Euro Express that he was traditionally gritty and defensive, I was a bit more cautious. I don't want a situation like Monaco, where Jardim was usually a conservative manger, then he had a team with Bernardo Silva, Lemar, Fabinho, Mbappe, Bernard Mendy, Falcao, Bakayoko, Germain Sidibe etc all playing free-flowing, amazing football. The journalists asked him, what are you doing in training to make them play such great football, he said I don't know, I just let them play/express themselves, lol.

So maybe Galtier is like that, maybe the effect of Bielsa lingers on and he's allowing them to express themselves, taking advantage of Bielsa's training while adding good defensive and extra mentality, I don't know. Or maybe I'm doing him a disservice, but yeah, someone knowledgeable people on French football may be able to expand on it.
 
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Balboa

Active Member
Managing small team as underdog is big different than big club having pressure. Potter is not experienced. Just get Allegri. This club and its fans has this weird thing about not doing the obvious. Always have to think outside of the box and do dumb sh1t like hippies
Arsenal are an underdog. Nothing wrong with a manager that doesn't waltz in with a big club entitlement mentality. Potter is vastly more experienced than Arteta and his English vastly superior to Emery's.
 

Jakarta

Active Member
What are the thoughts on Favre? I posted this a few pages ago, I think he'd be a decent fit for us.

Very good option.

We need to get that French connection back.

Btw ain’t gonna lie, the available options are uninspiring. Benitez/Sarri? Naaa

Give me something better guys.
 

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