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Likkle pussi boi. @ me next time so I can dust off my qwerty-47 and spray you.
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Think it was either G+A per 90 mins or the expected version of those stats. I've posted it somewhere here before in a longer post.
Stevo the Villan
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Like I said, for us to be offering this, especially the follow up bid, we must think we have a chance of signing him. Our club is not run by idiots (anymore!)
Why haven't Arsenal laughed us off? Why have we come back with a bid that's only £5m more? If Arsenal had responded to the first bid by saying we were miles away and there's no chance of you selling, then we wouldn't come back with a bid just £5m more.
I completely agree with your fans saying he won't go and it would be a step down, or at best a sideways step. But this nonsense about it being our club trolling yours and looking for publicity is absolute nonsense.
We're not run by Venkys. Our current owners wouldn't be wasting their time with publicity and "trolling". It's absurd
Goonger
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Your quite right to bid. From the outside our club looks a bit of a mess, we are sliding down the table, you beat us twice last year, you have owners willing to buy & absorb hundreds of millions in losses, you've signed an alleged target of ours ahead of us. You're club will be seen as being on the up, & we have a young highly rated player we are struggling to tie down to a long term contract. You are well within your rights to do what you are doing, & even how you feel the status of both clubs is.
The onus is on OUR club, owners & management, to shoot down these rumours, to get ESR tied down, to get the players in the summer to reverse the slide & get the club moving in a positive direction again, & back climbing up the table, & establish ourselves through sporting merit as a big 6 club again. Otherwise yeah, there's every chance the Villa's & Everton's will overtake us in the table.
Stevo the Villan
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Because clubs don't just launch bids out of the blue. They sound players out and they sound clubs out.
Villa aren't run by idiots. Clearly we think we can sign him. Why?
Why havent' Arsenal locked him into a contract? Why haven't they responded to our first bid by saying "**** off, we're not selling and if we were then he'd cost £80m" or whatever.
Clearly Villa think they have a chance here. Why?
If we end up signing him will you still be angry with Villa?
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You won't.
drippin
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The sums you offer are totally ridiculous for this talent, even only after 6 months in EPL. He fitted straight in.
Not sure why you keep offering those, but I certainly wouldn't rule out that you might be run by idiots, who think this is good publicity. The agent point in this is a good one, so they can get better wages for ESR.
Like I have said, there has been absolutely zero indication of ESR's unhappiness, so his agents are in a tough position if their player clearly wants to stay at his boyhood club. They're trying to do a Balogun move here, getting big wages, for a player who seems to love Arsenal even more than him.
I'm not sure if there is any rules about making bids, only gentleman's rules, which I assume you might have not followed here as a club. Arsenal might have shrugged your first offer off as a total joke and you thought a bit more might help.
And no, I'm not angry at all. I'm amused, and as I have said, it's a compliment if Villa think ESR can be a Grealish replacement. We all know he has the talent for it.
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As in ESR’s agent could be using you to get a better and better offer from Arsenal for him.
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He's stupid as well. I clearly said I have no proof but I'm looking at other players to back my theory. What a stupid guy.
Malky
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Clubs don't bid for players these days unless they're confident, or actually had word from the player themselves, that they're intrested in joining. How many players have we bid for in the past few years who've rejected joining us, after a bid is accepted? Vardy comes to mind, but did we even make a proper offer?
For me this has legs and it's worrying.
For me this has legs and it's worrying.
HairSprayGooners
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Look your name is trilly, you have no willy, stop being silly.
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Malky
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Just posted similar to this and I agree completely - Villa have likely had word from ESR's camp that he's intrested and given the green light to see if we accept.
This has legs. Feel like Arteta won't give ESR assurances over playing time next season (with links to new midfielders ) hence why there's been no contract signed.
Stevo the Villan
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Grealish isn't going anywhere this summer. We're not looking at ESR to replace him. We're looking at him to compliment him
Stevo the Villan
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I agree. I've said already I can't see it happening. My point is purely that we clearly think we have a chance. Why are Arsenal even entertaining it?
Stevo the Villan
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Yeah that's possible for initial specualtion. I highly doubt we'd have gone back with a second bid purely from agent talk don't you think?
drippin
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Different clubs might operate in different ways. Arsenal usually has had great class in these things, legacy of Wenger.
It's pretty obvious, as first stated by MutableEarth our expert in Youth, that it's very likely agent driven hints for Villa to bid.
I have explained ESR's situation, that he is not in the best position to demand big wages if he wants to stay at his boyhood club. So this helps, and I understand it. And I think he deserves proper wages.
Some Arsenal fans seem to think that everything is related to PR. Even when Wenger bid for Mbappe in 2017, they said it was done just to appease the fans.
Stevo the Villan
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I said before if Percy is reporting it then there's something in it.
That's not to say it will happen. I've already said I don't think it will. But he doesn't make stuff up and he doesn't report on pure speculation. There's something in this and rather than be angry at Villa I'd be seriously questioning why the club are even entertaining the notion of selling ESR
Something is defo going on as we had all those stories for a week about the deal close followed by what looked like a counter brief.
It could be more complicated than just money with the contract when you look at the players linked to us in his position. Ødegaard reported early summer priority & now 70m mentioned for Maddison.
With jobs at risk I dont trust any of these clowns to not cash in for their perceived 'win now' choice. It will be spun as something else... put on the player as thats what we do now at Arsenal.
