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✍️ OFFICIAL Martin Ødegaard

Who would you rather sign?


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HairSprayGooners

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ESR isn't a creator, he's a ball carrier. His end product still isn't there. I'd like to see him start a lot for us, but we do need more goals from midfield and more incisiveness. Maddison is a more polished player and instantly offers a lot to the team in terms of goals and such. A AM has been important for over a year now and we've still failed to properly address it.

Not only that but there is a point during the winter months when games get very heavy, no matter what your schedule is like overall we will be hit by injuries and ESR is quite likely to get hit as well.

If ESR is injured AND we need rotation what are we going to do? We desperately need someone who can operate in the 10 for that eventuality. ESR will get minutes at RW/LW and AM. Maddison has already said he can play AM, CM and LW.

We need someone to freshen up the forward line AND someone to replace Xhaka.
 

samspade

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Players develop in different ways. It is pretty much set up for ESR to have s breakout year. He gets better the more he plays and if he is given responsibility he will take it. I think we need to sign someone like an Olmo, Aouar or Nkunku to have the numbers to rotate and deal with injuries without losing the way we play.

I never liked Ødegaard because of how he sits in the right half space he blocked Saka and Pepe from moving infield regularly. Maddison will occupy the central space and offer little running in behind, meaning that little interchange will take place between the forwards.

ESR has the ability to understand space. Pepe, Auba, Saka, Martinelli all have this awaress and ability to find space. Aouar would add to this and since he is able to play off the left, it would make the most sense.


That is half a season of influence. This is the perfect season to give him game time as his body can handle 1 game a week.
I’m not sure about praising someone for thinking the same way as you but this is almost identical to what I think and I’m happy to read it. The reason he had such an effect is because our attack was too disparate and too far away from our midfield. None of the 10’s people have mentioned would have that effect on Arsenal as we were. Of course as we get stronger we may not need that type of influence to hold the team together as much and ESR does need to get better at being more selfish, taking the shot on.

It seemed to me Ødegaard was an 8/10 hybrid who cling to the right and never connected with ESR on the left. Aouar’s highlights make him look like he likes similar sorts of spaces on the left hand side. Someone correct me if I’m wrong as I have not watched Aouar play but could he be a better version of Ødegaard who would have better chemistry with ESR as he comes from the left?
 

Barry

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Numbers wise we'd get away with one if we kept Willock but that ship looks to have sailed anyway. There seems to be a split on AM between those who would prefer us to target the best DLP that's available as a Xhaka replacement, and those would would prefer to see a different type of midfield with some different profile of player(s) there. It looks like the 1st option is more likely with a specialist attacking mid coming in as well, but we'll see.
 

SingmeasongSong

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Instead of Maddison for 70m + Locatelli, you could buy Aouar+Bissouma+Locatelli and have a perfect setup for 433 that Klopp would dream of having whilst Arteta said in the interview he would like to go 433 as well.

Suddenly, with this different setup, a set of midfielders of Partey, Willock (now much more exciting), Bissouma, Lokonga, Aouar, ESR, Locatelli looks freaking amazing.

I'd surely rather go that route.
For a 433, this set of players is pretty close to the ideal.
 

blrgooner

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I think people here need to learn something, words like winger etc doesn't make sense nowadays more, this is about role now, and the players of the side of the pitch need to have more end product and they are usually more like Inside Forward who can attack the space etc like Werner, Pulisic, Salah, Mané, Rashford, Mbappe, Fati, Bale, Cristiano Ronaldo (since he moved to the left) and not more you trickster boy who can cross the ball. You can have a very elite wide playmaker there, but you also need someone who makes runs in the opposite side to compensate and usually a poaches.
You just can't go and play with guys who have around 30% or less expected end product (non-PK goals and assists expected per 90 relative to his team expected goal production) in both sides.

You just can't play with ESR and Saka/Pepe on the wings for example and then you **** about the team's chance creation is low, goalscoring is low, of course it would be low, you have guys who aren't agressive enough goal threat. Martinelli is the closest thing imo of a elite inside forward, goal threat Arsenal have on the side of the pitch and you need to use him properly next season.


Ideally you can set up like this imo:


Martinelli ---- Auba or Laca ---- Saka/Willian
------------------- ESR -----------------------
Well that is one inside forward and one creator among two wide players. I don`t necessarily disagree with you there. The point though is that for the inside forward and forward role, you have as options Auba, Laca,Martinelli,Pepe and balogun for 2 positions. For the creator role, you have ESR, Saka and Willian 2 positions. So it becomes obvious where we will struggle on the long run throughout the season.
This is not considering the fact that the creators are not players who have vision among their core strengths.
 
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Sebastes

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Instead of Maddison for 70m + Locatelli, you could buy Aouar+Bissouma+Locatelli and have a perfect setup for 433 that Klopp would dream of having whilst Arteta said in the interview he would like to go 433 as well.

Suddenly, with this different setup, a set of midfielders of Partey, Willock (now much more exciting), Bissouma, Lokonga, Aouar, ESR, Locatelli looks freaking amazing.

I'd surely rather go that route.
For a 433, this set of players is pretty close to the ideal.
Don't even need Locatelli for this season. Would probably even be too crowded.

LCM - Aouar/ESR
DM - Bissouma/Lokonga
RCM - Partey/Willock

That's enough cover for only 1 game per week and haas enough of options to tailor to more physical games, against teams that sit back, etc.
 

GoonerJeeves

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This could be important if he stays or goes.
Would think this is just rehash of previous news. Everything points to him staying there till January, unless Ancelotti tells him that he is not in his plans, and there is nothing to suggest that.

I think it could change if he doesn't play much this autumn, but I do not see him moving this window.
 

Yousif Arsenal

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Would think this is just rehash of previous news. Everything points to him staying there till January, unless Ancelotti tells him that he is not in his plans, and there is nothing to suggest that.

I think it could change if he doesn't play much this autumn, but I do not see him moving this window.
Yes if Ancelotti decide he'll give him change Ødegaard will stay. He still didn't even get enough chances at real madrid since moving
 

Iwobeast

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I was actually thinking him finally having the trust of a manager, getting guaranteed minutes and just being able to enjoy playing football again, would be enough to convince him to force a move to London.

I don't like this type of guy who is constantly going back to his friendzone club, a smart player should choose to stay away from Madrid, this way he will never reach his potential.
 

GoonerJeeves

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I still think Ødegaard would be better off at Arsenal, but i doubt there will be any movement here this summer.
 

Iwobeast

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Spanish media already ripping into Ødegaard


"Ødegaard is the eternal promise. Surrounded by homegrown players, he should have said: here I am. What is there to do? Like at Arsenal, do they all play for him? Martin, you are in Madrid. Wake up, @Macho . (....) But what worries me the most is the attitude of Jovic and Ødegaard. Hopefully those who return, especially Bale, do not go along that line."
 
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