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Not A Big Believer In Diversity
I'd never do that to you Trills.I can imagine Rich being the villain in one of the Fast & Furious movies.
Vin Diesel and them man teaming up to stop his plan to destroy every calculator on earth.
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I'd never do that to you Trills.I can imagine Rich being the villain in one of the Fast & Furious movies.
Vin Diesel and them man teaming up to stop his plan to destroy every calculator on earth.
Literally sent you a link that answers all your questions and numerous posters have tried to explain to you..do you have a problem with the stat or do you have a problem with the stat exposing Mikel?
Well Iāve given the benefit of the doubt and offered a full explanation so letās seeObviously he does not understand what stats are per se.
How does xg work in case of rebounds? For example, auba pen vs villa. Does it add for both the pen and the rebound he got? If it does, then so many rebounds will be incorrectly adding on to the xg showing the team created an extra chance.
*Posts a simple xG chart*A-M when I post a simple xG chart:
I donāt want you to get frustrated if I donāt agree with you after you explain it
That is the problem it is not a minor difference saying a shot at edge of the box is worth 5 percent or 10, plus not every shot from same location from different players is equally dangerous. By the way there are huge swings between the numbers of the various sites. It is at best an opinion generated by accepting their underlying assumptions which are over simplifications based on a player X shooting from point Y. If Ronaldo is shooting edge of the box is there more expectation than letās say Elneny?Basically those four different sites all use a different set of probabilities. Website 1 might say you have a 10% chance of scoring from the edge of the box, website 2 might say 5% and the last two might both say 7%. Thatās why each site is different.
As for where the numbers come from, they arenāt made up. Theyāre from taking every shot ever taken (since records began) looking at where the shot was taken from and how many of those shots were a goal. So website 1 looked at 1000 shots taken from that location, saw that 100 went in and decided that you have a 10% chance of scoring if a player takes a shot from there.
The reason each site is different is because they calculate their numbers differently, but theyāre usually similar anyway. If they were just making stuff up the numbers wouldnāt align across all the different websites like they do.
Hope that clears things up.
You build beautiful straw men the numbers you keep bandying about are not an indication of very much or worth much. Do you believe we were lucky to beat Sp**s that is what one of these ****** analyzed the game as? Quality of chance has a lot of subjective elements"I'll act open minded and listen to what you have to say but if it doesn't fit my worldview/agenda I'll just deny it, even if it's 1+1=2."
In real life, 1+1 can be 3."1+1=2."
the numbers you keep bandying about are not an indication of very much or worth much.
Yoooo Iām crying*Posts a simple xG chart*
AM old farts:
There are answers to every question you just asked me on the link I shared with you earlier.That is the problem it is not a minor difference saying a shot at edge of the box is worth 5 percent or 10, plus not every shot from same location from different players is equally dangerous. By the way there are huge swings between the numbers of the various sites. It is at best an opinion generated by accepting their underlying assumptions which are over simplifications based on a player X shooting from point Y. If Ronaldo is shooting edge of the box is there more expectation than letās say Elneny?
Tbf, Em*ry was on 18 (15.98 xPTS) pts after 13 matches. Arsenal is currently on 20 (15.54) after 11 matches. So that kind of explains why people do that...The thing is no one did this for Emery when he had City and Chelsea back to back to start the season as well.
The debate over analytics actually started with this rather than xG:Tbf, Em*ry was on 18 (15.98 xPTS) pts after 13 matches. Arsenal is currently on 20 (15.54) after 11 matches. So that kind of explains why people do that...
Can I ask what the chart you posted was that sparked the current argument? I looked for it in your posts but couldn't find it!
Not surprising, this graph. We are really quite poor systematically in both of these facets. Something Arteta really needs to improve upon in the remaining 27 league matches this season if I am to feel he deserves another season.The debate over analytics actually started with this rather than xG:
The debate over analytics actually started with this rather than xG:
The thing I don't get with people's great grievances with these stats also is that they almost always are just telling us common sense things.The debate over analytics actually started with this rather than xG: