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Swap deal for RiceI think half the pl will be after him. Clubs like Everton, Southampton, West Ham etc will all be looking for a striker. My prediction if West Ham stays up they will bid for him
Swap deal for RiceI think half the pl will be after him. Clubs like Everton, Southampton, West Ham etc will all be looking for a striker. My prediction if West Ham stays up they will bid for him
Let's follow what you said to its logical conclusion. Balogun is so talented that we could get a significant fee for him, right? So what you want us to do is sell him before we even see if that talent can improve our club but include a buyback option so that we have the pleasure of paying more for him than we received for him a couple of years down the line? How did that work out for Utd with Pogba? That's essentially what you're advocating for. You're suggesting that because of our prior history of getting poor fees from player sales we should look to rectify that by selling a talented player who could contribute to this club (that has already invested time and resources into developing him) now and then buy him back for more later? I'm sorry I don't mean to be rude or unpleasant but I don't understand what part of that makes sense to you when you lay it out. That's horrible business. He should be given every opportunity to succeed here before any sale is considered. At the very least he should have a PL loan if it really looks like he's going to struggle for minutes but under no circumstance should he be sold now unless he refuses to extend and wants a new challenge.More money to spend on more pressing areas is not wrong no? And besides, if I implied that I thought Arsenal needed the money, that was not my intention. Its just that when you look at Arsenal's history of selling players it is quite poor. And part of that is because they tank the value of players just sitting on the bench.
I think you misunderstand me when you think that I see Arsenal as some stepladder club needing to sell off talents. I am not. I am just advocating that there is nothing wrong with getting good money for players every now and then. Selling with a buyback clause is essentially letting other clubs take the responsibility of further development and you can always buy the player back no? Or another loan for that matter.
Sell a striker that can’t score for a guy who’s outscoring 3 of the top 5 forwards in world football?Arsenal Twitter are saying sell Jesus and play Balogun.
I'm just saying we shouldn't be complacent and assume that he's going to accept another loan & sign an extension over a big move and payday while he's hot.Half of Europe wouldn't spend the money to buy their granny a birthday present.
Wouldn't count on any English clubs getting big offers from foreign clubs anymore.
Let's see how it continues but an extension and a loan would probably be the best move. Another year for him to get first team football week in week out and see how Eddie and Jesus are going next season.
Look. Yes, I am saying Arsenal could get good money for him because he is doing well in Ligue 1 at the moment. He might get a chance and he might take it and do well at Arsenal. I don't know that. I am just saying that if he isn't part of Arteta's plans come next season, I see no reason for him to be third striker at Arsenal and maybe just maybe fight his way back in. Loan him out to another PL club? Sure why not.Let's follow what you said to its logical conclusion. Balogun is so talented that we could get a significant fee for him, right? So what you want us to do is sell him before we even see if that talent can improve our club but include a buyback option so that we have the pleasure of paying more for him than we received for him a couple of years down the line? How did that work out for Utd with Pogba? That's essentially what you're advocating for. You're suggesting that because of our prior history of getting poor fees from player sales we should look to rectify that by selling a talented player who could contribute to this club (that has already invested time and resources into developing him) now and then buy him back for more later? I'm sorry I don't mean to be rude or unpleasant but I don't understand what part of that makes sense to you when you lay it out. That's horrible business. He should be given every opportunity to succeed here before any sale is considered. At the very least he should have a PL loan if it really looks like he's going to struggle for minutes but under no circumstance should he be sold now unless he refuses to extend and wants a new challenge.
He is not gonna get minutes ahead of Jesus or Nketiah. He is not gonna get minutes based on what he done in France. The manager who watched him train everyday sent him on loan twice and was always behind nketiah before nketiah did anything in the PL. He is not suddenly come back and start games hereLet's follow what you said to its logical conclusion. Balogun is so talented that we could get a significant fee for him, right? So what you want us to do is sell him before we even see if that talent can improve our club but include a buyback option so that we have the pleasure of paying more for him than we received for him a couple of years down the line? How did that work out for Utd with Pogba? That's essentially what you're advocating for. You're suggesting that because of our prior history of getting poor fees from player sales we should look to rectify that by selling a talented player who could contribute to this club (that has already invested time and resources into developing him) now and then buy him back for more later? I'm sorry I don't mean to be rude or unpleasant but I don't understand what part of that makes sense to you when you lay it out. That's horrible business. He should be given every opportunity to succeed here before any sale is considered. At the very least he should have a PL loan if it really looks like he's going to struggle for minutes but under no circumstance should he be sold now unless he refuses to extend and wants a new challenge.
Its not being complacent. He's still young.I'm just saying we shouldn't be complacent and assume that he's going to accept another loan & sign an extension over a big move and payday while he's hot.
When you see the impression the likes of Lookman and Abraham are making in Italy, Balogun could easily tear it up there, or somewhere like Germany.
If we do qualify for the CL and are serious about challenging on all fronts, we should definitely be able to find room for him here.
Saliba wasn’t even registered for the Europa here then sent out on loan. Brought back and instantly replaced White who came off the back of a good season.He is not gonna get minutes ahead of Jesus or Nketiah. He is not gonna get minutes based on what he done in France. The manager who watched him train everyday sent him on loan twice and was always behind nketiah before nketiah did anything in the PL. He is not suddenly come back and start games here
Its not being complacent. He's still young.
You offer him a 1 year extension with a pay rise. You find him another solid loan maybe in the PL and then if he tears it up here you decide which one of Eddie or Jesus is surplus to requirements. Or Jesus moves wider and Eddie and Flo fight it out.
What you don't do is keep him in the squad if he isn't clearly better than those two at that moment and limit his game time to Carabao cup, and the odd 20 minute cameo.
That won't progress him.
Nothing in Balogun even in his youth days suggest he is bigger talent than nketiah. Their record in youth and England speaks for itselfSaliba wasn’t even registered for the Europa here then sent out on loan. Brought back and instantly replaced White who came off the back of a good season.
Saliba wasn’t even registered for the Europa here then sent out on loan. Brought back and instantly replaced White who came off the back of a good season.
Some kids hit a higher level quicker than others?Nothing in Balogun even in his youth days suggest he is bigger talent than nketiah. Their record in youth and England speaks for itself
Some kids hit a higher level quicker than others?
Balogun is currently out scoring Mbappe, Messi and Neymar while playing for a mid table side. That alone is seriously impressive.
Half this forum had Eddie written off and wanted him sold to West Ham not long ago?
Now they’re writing off Balogun.
The two CFs who’re being beaten by Ødegaard, Martinelli and Saka for goals right now? Jesus only injured a month ago and Xhaka has only 2 goals less than him. Right now they’re hardly prolific goal scorersFortunate circumstances though, wasn't it? Nobody thought he'd initially be starting ahead of White and it only came about because Tomiyasu was injured. Injuries will be the only way Balogun starts next season ahead of Jesus and Nketiah, especially if those two have lead us to a league title.
I do agree sometimes 20 games with Arsenal and learning what the coach wants etc can be better than 35 games on loan. But each case is different and I feel having had such success at this stage you'd want him to get the same opportunities but at a slightly higher level.Sometimes training with top players actually improves you more than going out and getting game time with an inferior team. Pep refused to loan Foden out because he wanted him training with guys like Silva ect.
Yes a guy we bid 100 million euros for….dumbassThe guy you are quoting had a boner because we tried to sign a guy thats older than Balogun from the ukrainian league.