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Alexis Sanchez: Off to the Old Toilet

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Rimaal

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Let's see Zlatan win United the title this year if he's such a god. They're being walked over by a Chelsea squad that's cost less than 70% of Man U's. United will to need to fork out another 100 million on players next year in order to give Zlatan a team that will win the title.

Zlatan adds a lot to a team, but he is nothing without the team that backs him up.
And he got moved on from Barca because he threw ego tantrums.


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Also, notice how PSG are doing better this year in the CL without him.
 
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samshere

Why so serieuse?
You could be right, we just don't know. But vis a vis Coq's unseen powers, all those midfield options he had before the season started, Wilshere, Ramsey, Santi, Elneny, are all unavailable.

With hindsight, bet he wouldn't have loaned Wilshere.
No real hindsight is required to come to that conclusion. I could've told you that we'll suffer from our usual injury crisis and loaning Wilshere out was the wrong decision. In fact, I did mention that somewhere on Arsenal Mania itself at the time, if my memory serves me right.
 

samshere

Why so serieuse?
Wilshere would have cycled into a lamp post, ruling him out for 9 months.
Or he would've been fit for most of the season as he was at Bournemouth and helped us avoid the routine drubbings we seem to be getting by every team with a bit of a class.
 

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Wilshere, the same guy, who can't get a start at OT for Bournemouth?

It was Wilshere's decision to go out on loan, and it was the right decision. He wouldn't have added anything to what we're lacking right now, he's a liability defensively.
 

Rimaal

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Or he would've been fit for most of the season as he was at Bournemouth and helped us avoid the routine drubbings we seem to be getting by every team with a bit of a class.

Don't be silly. This is Arsenal. Of course he wouldn't have stayed fit.
 

rich 1990

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Or he would've been fit for most of the season as he was at Bournemouth and helped us avoid the routine drubbings we seem to be getting by every team with a bit of a class.
We ain't Bournemouth. He'd get injured, we'd find a way.

He also wouldn't make much difference. We've got good enough players here to be doing better.
 

rich 1990

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Let's see Zlatan win United the title this year if he's such a god. They're being walked over by a Chelsea squad that's cost less than 70 of Man U. United will to need to fork out another 100 million on players next year in order to give Zlatan a team that will win the title.

Zlatan adds a lot to a team, but he is nothing without the team that backs him up.
And he got moved on from Barca because he threw ego tantrums.
A fatal flaw in the squad cost argument is it doesn't factor in human stupidity. Paul Pogba is apparently worth 2 and 1/2 Alexis Sanchez's.
 

Rimaal

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A fatal flaw in the squad cost argument is it doesn't factor in human stupidity. Paul Pogba is apparently worth 2 and 1/2 Alexis Sanchez's.

The flaw is comparing Pogba to Sanchez. For one they play different position, for two Pogba is 6 years younger than Sanchez with 6 years worth of potential over him, and for 3, a player's worth is dictated by the leverage the selling club holds over the player in terms of contract, and what the purchasing team is willing to pay for him. Human stupidity is not a factor in cost, it is a factor in buying the right player for the wrong team.
 

rich 1990

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The flaw is comparing Pogba to Sanchez. For one they play different position, for two Pogba is 6 years younger than Sanchez with 6 years worth of potential over him, and for 3, a player's worth is dictated by the leverage the selling club holds over the player in terms of contract, and what the purchasing team is willing to pay for him. Human stupidity is not a factor in cost, it is a factor in buying the right player for the wrong team.
I take your point about different positions but in no world is Pogba worth 89 million. You can compare him to other midfielders and it still doesn't add up.
 

STYLEZ

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Wilshere, the same guy, who can't get a start at OT for Bournemouth?

It was Wilshere's decision to go out on loan, and it was the right decision. He wouldn't have added anything to what we're lacking right now, he's a liability defensively.

His a liability full stop don't get this forum and Wilshere. The guy is not good enough
 

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Wilshere, the same guy, who can't get a start at OT for Bournemouth?

It was Wilshere's decision to go out on loan, and it was the right decision. He wouldn't have added anything to what we're lacking right now, he's a liability defensively.
All that's very true.

If Wenger had been clairvoyant, he might have put in a recall clause on the off chance that the impossible might happen and Elneny, Xhaka, Ramsey, and Santi would all somehow become unavailable. ;)
 

Rimaal

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I take your point about different positions but in no world is Pogba worth 89 million. You can compare him to other midfielders and it still doesn't add up.

That's the market. An iPhone Plus 7 in no way is worth £800, but that's what it costs, and that's what people pay for it. An Hermes Birkin is in no way worth from £10,000 to £100,000 but that's the price, and that's what people are willing to pay for it. The market defines the price, it really has very little to do with true worth (which with regards to human resources is a very subjective thing any way).
 
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