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Champions League Final 2018: Real Madrid vs Liverpool FC - Saturday May 26th - Kick off -19:45

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KrissKringle

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Remember when David James was called Calamity James? I think we found his successor in Calamity Karius. Has a nice ring to it, if I do say so myself.
 

dashsnow17

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He is not an all time great defender in the sense of being a defensive master (or incredibly good defensively...Varane is simply better than him already) but like someone pointed out, he is incredibly intelligent and has a ridiculous trophy cabinet that no defender can ever match.

It's a strange state of affairs when Ramos is unquestionably one of the greatest, most successful footballers and captains of all time, and yet people still don't really rate him as a defender. Fwiw I think he's a much better defender than people assume, but still a bit of an enigma.
 

El Granit-Coq

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Varane better? What? No way.

Ramos is the greatest defender of all time.
He may have the accolades, but as a defensive player, he isn't the greatest ever. There are defenders who are a lot of current defenders who are better than him but haven't won nearly as much.

It's the same with Pique, people rate him highly due to his accolades but he isn't a great defender.
 

dashsnow17

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I actually don't know where this hate is coming from. Real Madrid have been running things for years, the only difference is they've been on a streak of winning things recently.

Barcelona is the club I can't stand. Despise them to bits.

Nobody really likes Madrid obviously, but it's not like they pretend or try to be likeable. They are what they are and they're good at it. Barca on the other hand, f*ck me. They claim the moral high ground when in fact they're just as bad as any other superclub.
 

El Granit-Coq

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It's a strange state of affairs when Ramos is unquestionably one of the greatest, most successful footballers and captains of all time, and yet people still don't really rate him as a defender. Fwiw I think he's a much better defender than people assume, but still a bit of an enigma.
He isn't even the greatest captains of all time, that phrase makes no sense. Wouldn't rank in most people top 10 captains if you really sat down to think. He has an amazing career and the trophies to back it up, as a defender, he is better than average but still not the best in Europe.

@Furious Yes... Varane as a defender is much better than Ramos. I'm not going to have a debate over this. This isn't one of those where we can exchange opinions, I simply see Varane as a better defender than Ramos.
 

Rimaal

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I'm guessing you can read this, google translate seems to be the same as that guys tweet. So it looks like Salah will make it :D

But it also mentions the ligaments, so maybe it does mean sprain here.

I dunno.
 

MrLuke

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He gave an Interview after the match. This is certainly gonna be weird and huge void all of sudden seeing a guy who you grew up watching is no more there.

This Video was released today pre-final by Teocri - Absolutely amazing

You might never see C.Ronaldo in RM shirt again
 
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Lakersgooner24

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It's a strange state of affairs when Ramos is unquestionably one of the greatest, most successful footballers and captains of all time, and yet people still don't really rate him as a defender. Fwiw I think he's a much better defender than people assume, but still a bit of an enigma.
He’s a better captain than he is a defender. He’s come up big in key moments numerous times. But doesn’t he also hold some record for most red cards? Great defenders don’t get sent off half the time.
 
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