Mesut Özil: Time to Move Ön?

[Tosker]

You ok hun?

If you're sick of it, maybe stop coming in his thread?

perhaps he comes here expecting something new - it is all a bit Groundhog Day, isn't it

I wish there was a way of separating news from opinion

 

[Jasard]

perhaps he comes here expecting something new - it is all a bit Groundhog Day, isn't it

I wish there was a way of separating news from opinion

If only it was limited to this forum or even this thread.

To be honest he'd probably not really a **** but he is taking this club for a ride now.

 

[say yes]

Much as I don’t care who Özil has dinner with, the notion that he’s somehow being forced or pressured into these meetings with Erdogan out of fear is laughable. Their relationship clearly goes well beyond professional niceties.

Mesut likes and respects Erdogan. Why can’t people just accept that rather than pretending that his family are being held ransom ffs

 

[hydrofluoric acid]

Yeah between playing Fortnite and being friend with Erdogan I'm not sure Arsenal should keep the player anymore. Sell.

 

[BigPoppaPump]

Theres no problem being friends with Erdogan, Western Propoganda has people thinking everyone not opening their bumholes for the US and their lackeys are evil.

You never hear about how Assad and Putin basically defeated ISIS while Americans were busy bombing civilians and selling weapons to both sides and fanning the flames of war in that nation.

 

[Jury]

Much as I don’t care who Özil has dinner with, the notion that he’s somehow being forced or pressured into these meetings with Erdogan out of fear is laughable. Their relationship clearly goes well beyond professional niceties.

Mesut likes and respects Erdogan. Why can’t people just accept that rather than pretending that his family are being held ransom ffs

Painting him as some sort of coward in the process as well... But it's ok because it excuses him. Never mind the disservice. Just rolls off the finger tips in this thread

I couldn't give a damn who he has dinner with. Seems to mean more to his protectors.

 

[progman07]

Yeah between playing Fortnite and being friend with Erdogan I'm not sure Arsenal should keep the player anymore. Sell.

Very sad state of an Arsenal player, especially earning as much as he does.

 

[Tosker]

Very sad state of an Arsenal player, especially earning as much as he does.

he does other stuff as well

 

[Jury]

Nobody ever said he was a ****. He's a very privileged man who has lots of time and money on his hands to do wonderful things for the much less fortunate. What a life.

 

[ThlRama]

Theres no problem being friends with Erdogan, Western Propoganda has people thinking everyone not opening their bumholes for the US and their lackeys are evil.

You never hear about how Assad and Putin basically defeated ISIS while Americans were busy bombing troops and selling weapons to both sides and fanning the flames of war in that nation.

Great post, good to see.

 

[BigPoppaPump]

Great post, good to see.

I was supposed to say ‘bombing civilians’ instead of ‘bombing troops’.

 

[say yes]

We probably shouldn’t get drawn into world politics in the Özil thread but, in the interest of balance, that’s not a “great post” at all.

Comparing the actions of the West in Syria to Assad/Putin is deranged. Assad is a war-criminal who (backed by Putin) has presided over a humanitarian crisis in which it is estimated that over 400,000 people have been killed and millions displaced. They’ve bombed schools and hospitals indiscriminately, used chemical weapons repeatedly contrary to international law, and tortured and murdered tens of thousands of dissidents. He’s an evil ****.

The Russian bombing campaign - which has targeted the Syrian rebels much more than it has ISIS - has killed far more (around six times) as many civilians as the western coalition combined.

 

[Mark Tobias]

Theres no problem being friends with Erdogan, Western Propoganda has people thinking everyone not opening their bumholes for the US and their lackeys are evil.

You never hear about how Assad and Putin basically defeated ISIS while Americans were busy bombing civilians and selling weapons to both sides and fanning the flames of war in that nation.

Loved this post! So much of truth!

 

[Oh_Snap]

Poor, misunderstood Erdolf. You can't make this stuff up.

Withdraws the vote in Istanbul because it's not going his way
Locks away Journalists (google Deniz Yücel) because they're "spying"
Sends Imams via DITIB to Europe to spread Salafism
If you're turkish and living outside turkey and critize him on social Media ... have fun going to turkey (aka straight to Jail)
Spitting on Atatürks legacy (removing secularization step by step)

https://www.dw.com/en/german-footballer-deniz-naki-shot-at-on-highway/a-42061157

All made up by evil western media.

 

[UpTheGunnerz]

We sold him yet?

 

[BigPoppaPump]

We probably shouldn’t get drawn into world politics in the Özil thread but, in the interest of balance, that’s not a “great post” at all.

Comparing the actions of the West in Syria to Assad/Putin is deranged. Assad is a war-criminal who (backed by Putin) has presided over a humanitarian crisis in which it is estimated that over 400,000 people have been killed and millions displaced. They’ve bombed schools and hospitals indiscriminately, used chemical weapons repeatedly contrary to international law, and tortured and murdered tens of thousands of dissidents. He’s an evil ****.

The Russian bombing campaign - which has targeted the Syrian rebels much more than it has ISIS - has killed far more (around six times) as many civilians as the western coalition combined.

I'm more making a point about how the media portrays these things and how people buy into narratives. It's obvious Assad and Putin are war criminals but isis/isil were made to look like the big threat in that region.

Either way the Özil thread isn't the place to be talking about the Syrian Civil war. We're tryna send him to Serie A not Syria.

 

[Red London]

You never hear about how Assad and Putin basically defeated ISIS while Americans were busy bombing civilians and selling weapons to both sides and fanning the flames of war in that nation.

I'm more making a point about how the media portrays these things and how people buy into narratives. It's obvious Assad and Putin are war criminals but isis/isil were made to look like the big threat in that region.

You kind of sold your own narrative there though, that Russia and Assad were doing 'good' in defeating ISIS while USA are the only criminals.

Funny how easy it is to do isnt it

I do agree that certain countries will have their own perspectives on things but at the end of the day the media is going to report on atrocities done by other countries before themselves, gotta just follow the least possibly biased sources of news.

 

[blaze_of_glory]

Keep it about Özil guys, or this is gonna get locked.

 

[BigPoppaPump]

You kind of sold your own narrative there though, that Russia and Assad were doing 'good' in defeating ISIS while USA are the only criminals.

Funny how easy it is to do isnt it

I do agree that certain countries will have their own perspectives on things but at the end of the day the media is going to report on atrocities done by other countries before themselves, gotta just follow the least possibly biased sources of news.

Yeah I was showing how easy it is to do, and I agree with you.

Now let's stop before we get sent to our rooms.

 

[Jackie_Treehorn]

he does other stuff as well

Kid’s in full kit ready to play! Respect.