Mesut Özil: 2019/20 Performances

[GoonerBoy19]

That's the modern day number 10....... the classic playmaking number 10 is an outdated tactic that is no longer viable in the age of gegenpressing. Willock is far from a finished product but he is very young and can be molded into being the Ramsey replacement we need. Özil is no longer young and we can't mold him at all. So while Willock obviously isn't on Özil's level in terms of value on the pitch it makes sense to invest playing time in Willock rather than Özil, cause Willock can easily make the Guendouzi level improvements to eventually surpass Özil.

It's a myth that you have to always gegenpress in modern football. You might need it against certain teams but creativity will always be the key specially against teams who park the bus. We lack in that area unless Guendo/Ceballos starts to perform consistently.

 

[Big Poppa]

Think you're over complicating it a tad. Emery has come in and perceived the team needs to be harder working and he is hell bent on that. The fact he is sacrificing our attacking potential for graft only proves one thing. He is not a very good manager.

Serious question. Why do you think hard work comes at the expense of attacking potential?

You won’t see any strikeforce work harder than Liverpool’s or City’s without the ball and they’ve blown PL era scoring records into oblivion.

Do you not think the speed at which they recover the ball might have something to do with that?

 

[GoonerBoy19]

Serious question. Why do you think hard work comes at the expense of attacking potential?

You won’t see any strikeforce work harder than Liverpool’s or City’s without the ball and they’ve blown PL era scoring records into oblivion.

Do you not think the speed at which they recover the ball might have something to do with that?

Liverpool yes but City is a blend of both. KDB,Silva and Foden are world class players. Foden is almost a 19 year old Wilshere and will replace Silva later this year.

Pep knows how to use them and have a balanced squad. Özil was always a luxury, even for Germany his best performances came when others supported him. If coach have decided not to build team around him then fair enough, he should move away.But saying that Willock and some random 21 yr old are better than him is pure nonsense.

 

[krackpot]

That's the modern day number 10....... the classic playmaking number 10 is an outdated tactic that is no longer viable in the age of gegenpressing. Willock is far from a finished product but he is very young and can be molded into being the Ramsey replacement we need. Özil is no longer young and we can't mold him at all. So while Willock obviously isn't on Özil's level in terms of value on the pitch it makes sense to invest playing time in Willock rather than Özil, cause Willock can easily make the Guendouzi level improvements to eventually surpass Özil.

No artistic expression
No time on the ball
Just keep running and you will be fine

James, Mata, Özil finding it impossible to get any games...Sometimes you wonder if you're watching Rugby with a few rule tweaks.

We should slowly merge the two sports because that is where we are heading, unless FIFA does something.

 

[Big Poppa]

It's a myth that you have to always gegenpress in modern football. You might need it against certain teams but creativity will always be the key specially against teams who park the bus. We lack in that area unless Guendo/Ceballos starts to perform consistently.

Teams that have the most effective use of width and high intensity generally create the most chances, particularly against sides that park the bus.

It’s a big reason why Barcelona without Messi struggle creatively, especially away from home, despite a plethora of playmakers who are at least as good as Özil.

Liverpool were less creative after selling Coutinho but created better chances because they forced more mistakes and played more expansive football.

Is Wijnaldum a better footballer than Coutinho? No. But he allows Robertson and Mané to attack opponents at will in the areas they are most vulnerable.

You will see our creativity explode when KT and Bellerin start regularly.

 

[GoonerBoy19]

Teams that have the most effective use of width and high intensity generally create the most chances, particularly against sides that park the bus.

It’s a big reason why Barcelona without Messi struggle creatively, especially away from home, despite a plethora of playmakers who are at least as good as Özil.

Liverpool were less creative after selling Coutinho but created better chances because they forced more mistakes and played more expansive football.

Is Wijnaldum a better footballer than Coutinho? No. But he allows Robertson and Mané to attack opponents at will in the areas they are most vulnerable.

You will see our creativity explode when KT and Bellerin start regularly.

I hope so, but i still believe we need an upgrade on Xhaka to make it work. Emery couldn't make this work with superior players in PSG and was defensively fragile in champions league.

 

[Big Poppa]

Liverpool yes but City is a blend of both. KDB,Silva and Foden are world class players. Foden is almost a 19 year old Wilshere and will replace Silva later this year.

Pep knows how to use them and have a balanced squad. Özil was always a luxury, even for Germany his best performances came when others supported him. If coach have decided not to build team around him then fair enough, he should move away.But saying that Willock and some random 21 yr old are better than him is pure nonsense.

I never saw anyone say that bar one poster who made an ill advised comment about Willock being closest fit to AMF.

KDB and Silva are world class but they also put in a tremendous shift off the ball. Bernardo is another case in point. I would not put Foden in that bracket yet but he’s undoubtedly exciting.

Point being (and it sounds like you agree here) is it’s not about cloggers vs artists. It’s a team dynamic that involves everyone being capable of a bit of both. De minimis is effort.

 

[Big Poppa]

I hope so, but i still believe we need an upgrade on Xhaka to make it work. Emery couldn't make this work with superior players in PSG and was defensively fragile in champions league.

I agree wholeheartedly.

 

[Oxeki]

Both are waste of space, might bid for 10m on 5 year installments. I hope we get a monster offer from China, even Arnautovic got 22m ffs.

Özil won't go to China IMO. MLS is more likely.

Besides, if any team comes to take him off our hands for free, I'll drive him there myself.

With his salary, no club will be mad enough to pay a transfer. Our best hope of shifting him is if we demand no transfer fee or if he reduces his wage demands

 

[GDeep™]

The streets will never forget the u21 Germany performances, his Real move and him being the conductor in the greatest era of the German national team. His transfer to Arsenal, the most exciting in the history of the club.

One of the most iconic players in the history of the game.

 

[Jae]

Serious question. Why do you think hard work comes at the expense of attacking potential?

You won’t see any strikeforce work harder than Liverpool’s or City’s without the ball and they’ve blown PL era scoring records into oblivion.

Do you not think the speed at which they recover the ball might have something to do with that?

Sshhhh - Doesn't fit the narrative mate.

 

[yorch44]

That's the modern day number 10....... the classic playmaking number 10 is an outdated tactic that is no longer viable in the age of gegenpressing. Willock is far from a finished product but he is very young and can be molded into being the Ramsey replacement we need. Özil is no longer young and we can't mold him at all. So while Willock obviously isn't on Özil's level in terms of value on the pitch it makes sense to invest playing time in Willock rather than Özil, cause Willock can easily make the Guendouzi level improvements to eventually surpass Özil.

Meeeeh I don’t buy that “new No 10” BS... if you don’t want to play one then play 442 like atlético do.

Willock is clearly more suited playing from behind... there is a world of difference between playing where a CM does and do it where a 10 do... it is like that false 9 trend we saw a few years ago.

You put the players where they are more suited... best year Ramsey played was as b2b alongside Arteta... then he started that BS of him wanting to score every game and thinking he is N10... once he did that his game dropped a lot.

It is like you say today Viera is N10 because that’s modern football even when is clearly the player is not suited as 10

 

[Jae]

You put the players where they are more suited.

Which is why Özil has been riding the bench for the majority of the season buddy

 

[yorch44]

Which is why Özil has been riding the bench for the majority of the season buddy

Are you needed in attention? Or that’s your mental capacity?

 

[CaseUteinberger]

The streets will never forget the u21 Germany performances, his Real move and him being the conductor in the greatest era of the German national team. His transfer to Arsenal, the most exciting in the history of the club.

One of the most iconic players in the history of the game.

“the conductor of the greatest era of the German national team” - What a load of BS! You mustn’t have seen much of Germany’s games in e.g. the WC 2014. They won despite Özil on the team, not thanks to him. This fawning over Özil is just bloody ridiculous. Get a grip!

 

[krackpot]

“the conductor of the greatest era of the German national team” - What a load of BS! You mustn’t have seen much of Germany’s games in e.g. the WC 2014. They won despite Özil on the team, not thanks to him. This fawning over Özil is just bloody ridiculous. Get a grip!

He was top scorer during the qualifying. Basically dragged them into the world cup

 

[Mark Tobias]

Which is why Özil has been riding the bench for the majority of the season buddy

Hardly explains the Xhaka captaincy though

 

[Toby]

“the conductor of the greatest era of the German national team” - What a load of BS! You mustn’t have seen much of Germany’s games in e.g. the WC 2014. They won despite Özil on the team, not thanks to him. This fawning over Özil is just bloody ridiculous. Get a grip!

Tbh honest he was more integral to the 2010 WC team and I think that was his best tournament performance, really brilliant, but he was still class in 2014 and saying Germany won despite his is a massive stretch. If anything Germany won despite Löw.

 

[Mark Tobias]

If anything Germany won despite Löw.

So true and just about everyone was on that at the time. Amazing how short people's memory can be.

 

[Oh_Snap]

Tbh honest he was more integral to the 2010 WC team and I think that was his best tournament performance, really brilliant, but he was still class in 2014 and saying Germany won despite his is a massive stretch. If anything Germany won despite Löw.

Germany wouldnt go past Round of 16 against an insanly strong Algeria if it wasnt for him and Neuer. Felt so sorry for Algeria.

Imagine being against Özil with a Günther Netzer Avi.