Pop Tart
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If he cannot score tonight I see no way back from him and he must be dropped. We need goals, hard work will only get you so far.. we need to be more ruthless in front of goal and with players who are not performing.
Camus if you really can't see how top speed is almost meaningless in a sport where it is all about the first 5 yards then we can't help you.
Misinterpretations of stats like that have made them a laughing stock for years which is unfortunate.
The stats are not at fault, it is people not being able to bring them into context.
Just because you have objective numbers doesn't mean you're applying them correctly.
It is clear from watching the many matches Lacazette plays that he never runs away from defenders. He doesn't make runs in behind nor do his team mates play balls in behind in expectation of him doing so.
It's nice that you've got a top speed number but that's all it is: a number. Numbers and statistics are not totems of fact but have to be interpreted in context.
Hadn't even looked at the data you provided until now... knew it was bollocks.
Laca's speed measured is in a training speed test... whilst your other rubbish source doesn't even state how they measured the Liverpool players' speed? Sounds like it's data from actual matches, where you rarely if ever hit absolute top speed.
"dEmOsTrAbLe FaCtS" use your eyes dude. If Laca was any quick, he'd score goals like Salah and Mane by running in behind or running with the ball at high speed.
It probably was, my bad.Oh yes that’s what I mean of course..Thought it was obvious sorry
Don't think it's fair to set the bar of: if he doesn't score tonight then he's done here.
Let's be honest, he's not going to score tonight. He's stinking out the joint
Don't think it's fair to set the bar of: if he doesn't score tonight then he's done here.
Let's be honest, he's not going to score tonight. He's stinking out the joint
I think he’ll eventually play better than he is now, but I don’t see that spark happening in a big game.Goal from him would be a much needed welcome! We need it more than ever! Laca need it more than ever!
Only one misinterpreting stats is you and others.
Speed/Pace/Velocity= Distance covered per unit of time
Top Speed= The highest rate of distance covered per unit of time
Acceleration= Rate of change of Speed/Pace/Velocity with respect to time
I'm full aware of the differences. But as this study shows (bar outliers) the relative difference between a slower player and a faster player in terms of both acceleration and speed over a long distance is relatively the same. Which is exactly why professional top level clubs measure such data in an official capacity like we've down. I know you're having a hard time reconciling the data with your incorrect perceptions but hand waving them away as "almost meaningless" just demonstrates either ignorance or disingenuity.
I've clearly explained above that I am applying them correctly. As also explained in another post ones respective speed is not a replacement for preferred play-style. Tim Cahill comes in at noticeably shorter than Adebayor and has more headed goals.
Are you actually going to engage in a substantive way or is it going to be just more hand waving away since you have nothing to refute the data?
The data is apparently "rubbish" and "bollocks" and yet this is your what? 5th reply to me? And you've not been able to provide a single shred of counter evidence to them. Odd that
As for claim about "player rarely if ever hitting top speed in games when compared to training"..United would disagree with on that
https://www.givemesport.com/1494333...united-players-max-speed-from-preseason-tests
https://www.manutd.com/en/news/detail/opta-data-highlights-the-fastest-player-at-man-utd-this-season
Rashford actually exceeded his training top speed 3 times in the opening 12 games already. More demonstrable facts since I know how much you love them when they prove you wrong
I'm getting a bit bored here. Your opinions are meaningless to me and I've already gone about addressing them with objective data. Either do the same or consider this discussion over from my end.
How many games without goal now @OnlyOne ?
Believe it or not I'm not gonna criticise his performance tonight but he did **** up one situation (he always manages it at least once a game) where he tried to pass it to Pepe instead of the simple ball outside to Martinelli who'd have been in acres of space and managed to find a Chelsea player. It's just typical of him at the moment. Even some of mates who support Liverpool have started copping on to how bad he is.
Believe it or not I'm not gonna criticise his performance tonight but he did **** up one situation (he always manages it at least once a game) where he tried to pass it to Pepe instead of the simple ball outside to Martinelli who'd have been in acres of space and managed to find a Chelsea player. It's just typical of him at the moment. Even some of mates who support Liverpool have started copping on to how bad he is.
He also headed the ball to no one just before Chelsea second goal!
Few poor dribbles resulting in loss of the ball.
But he worked hard. Guess that is what we mainly expect from our striker now!