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Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang: From Thriller To Bad, Should He Just Beat It?

Macho

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RVP for all his brilliance still needed service. All we do is cross the ball so I struggle to see how he would score goals in this system.

Only players doing anything in this systems are those like Neymar and Messi, guys who can create for themselves consistently and others, one man attacks. Even CR7 would struggle in this team off of the glorious 2 big chances we create per game.
People don’t like our forwards for whatever reason but there is 100% more than enough available at the club to score atleast one goal per 90 mins in open play between them. I think it’s been 4 hours and counting (since Sheffield Utd).

This is pretty much relegation form attacking wise and it’s not even the players fault, as some have done it under other managers and none of them are even getting the ball.
 

Riou

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Country: Northern Ireland

Player:Gabriel
If it was a straight swap, gain Van Persie but lose Auba, we would do a little better but probably not much (assuming Robin doesn't get his usual injury!) we would still have some holes in our attack for me...if Saka-Van Persie-Pepe could click though maybe, unsure it would though.

But Van Persie up top, with Auba on the left would be something...as Van Persie was excellent at dropping deep and dragging the defender away, leaving space for Walcott to run into...and Auba would love that coming in from the wing, plus Pierre is a smarter player than Theo so he would score buckets.
 

Hleb's Sirush

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He was used in the same position last season and playing out of his skin to get that big new contract.

Now that his objective has been achieved his motivation and hunger has dropped considerably.

Last season he was still getting some decent chances. Not nearly enough but at least something he could work with. He also over performed his xG by a big margin, something which you can't rely on.

When we want to criticise Auba we have to understand what kind of player he is. You are basically criticising him for not playing well when he is basically asked to carry out a role that is so far removed from what he is elite at. If Auba is getting of shots and we are creating chances for him and he is still not scoring then we can blame him.

He has nearly 200 career goals, how many of those do you think he picked the ball up, dribble past a few player or scored from a long range? Not many. Of the 98 Bundesliga goals he got for Dortmund 97 were inside the box. He is the definition of a fox in the box. The penalty area is his hunting ground, he needs to operate close to it to be effective.

Knowing all of that we somehow have managed to design a system where it seems we minimise the amount of time he spends in there and also made it very hard for him to get any shots off. You know that if after 8 games a CB (Maguire) has more chances/shots than Auba something is fundamentally wrong with the tactics and it's time to change that system.
 

OSBK

Established Member
RVP for all his brilliance still needed service. All we do is cross the ball so I struggle to see how he would score goals in this system.

Only players doing anything in this systems are those like Neymar and Messi, guys who can create for themselves consistently and others, one man attacks. Even CR7 would struggle in this team off of the glorious 2 big chances we create per game.

Well i slightly disagree. RvP wasnt purely reliant on good service, he was capable of creating oppurtunties himself. We would be a different animal with a prime RvP or CR7, those players are proactive players who would thrive in this team and league currently. Auba and laca are not, they are reactive and thrive in situations created specifically for their strengths.

Maybe its just a case of the other teams have figured out how to shut auba down.
 

Rasmi

Negative Nancy

Country: England
Well i slightly disagree. RvP wasnt purely reliant on good service, he was capable of creating oppurtunties himself. We would be a different animal with a prime RvP or CR7, those players are proactive players who would thrive in this team and league currently. Auba and laca are not, they are reactive and thrive in situations created specifically for their strengths.

Maybe its just a case of the other teams have figured out how to shut auba down.
Nah both needed service. Rvp had great first touch and passing, but it’s not like he could beat anyone for pace. In his best season our whole attack was geared towards feeding him
 

Macho

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Rvp isn’t doing anything in this team. He’d create the odd goal for himself here and there just like Auba has done in previous seasons but it’s not sustainable over 38 matches.

All version of Arsenal teams RvP was a part of were very creative teams.
When he was at Man U their game plan was geared to getting the ball to him as many times as possible.
 

Macho

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Taking a leaf out of @Football Manager book and posting this again, in case some of you missed this.


Are we doing this for Aubameyang? No.
He is currently part of a system, with chalk on his boots, tracking back - and floating in crosses to Laca, Eddie and Willian.

Is RvP thriving in this system? Of course not be honest.
 

OSBK

Established Member
Nah both needed service. Rvp had great first touch and passing, but it’s not like he could beat anyone for pace. In his best season our whole attack was geared towards feeding him

2011-2012 we had a forward line of gervinho, RvP and walcott. Alex song as our guy feeding him from midfield. Think your underrating just how good RvP was that season mate
 

Riou

In The Winchester, Waiting For This To Blow Over

Country: Northern Ireland

Player:Gabriel
Van Persie was amazing in 2011/2012, but that team (although not a great one) was built completely around him...Walcott was unbelievable fast then, having Theo in the team meant teams could never squeeze up on Robin (as while not being slow, he wasn't overly fast either) as they were always worried about the ball over the top.

Plus Song and Arteta was a solid midfield, and although Partey is definitely better than either of those 2, I would probably have the 11-12 midfield over any combo we could throw together with this current team.

We had the likes of Gervinho, Ox and Benayoun (while none of them played well for all of the season) had some really good games throughout that season...plus Rosicky rolling back the years in the last 3rd of that season was as important to us getting top 4.

Auba isn't working with much in this current team, tbf to him.
 

OSBK

Established Member
Taking a leaf out of @Football Manager book and posting this again, in case some of you missed this.


Are we doing this for Aubameyang? No.
He is currently part of a system, with chalk on his boots, tracking back - and floating in crosses to Laca, Eddie and Willian.

Is RvP thriving in this system? Of course not be honest.

Tbf there is just a class difference between scholes, rooney, carrick and neny, willian, laca. But there is a world of difference between RvP and auba, like rio said in that video.. give RvP the ball he will win you the league
 

Macho

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Rvp was here for donkeys in some brilliant Arsenal teams and he never won us the league though.

This is what I mean about you guys overrating.
 

Manberg

Predator
Taking a leaf out of @Football Manager book and posting this again, in case some of you missed this.


Are we doing this for Aubameyang? No.
He is currently part of a system, with chalk on his boots, tracking back - and floating in crosses to Laca, Eddie and Willian.

Is RvP thriving in this system? Of course not be honest.

Yes. Our system is built around Auba. If it was RVP we’d be scoring goals for fun.
 

Gooner1988TK

Active Member
Whole page talking about a player we sold 8 years ago :facepalm:

looool all us Arsenal fans are always talking about the past and we have done so for nearly a decade or even more probably. The reason is we have nothing to look forward to so we self medicate the torment and suffering of being an Arsenal fan with nostalgia hahaha. We also don’t relate with or like 90% of our current squad.
 

Macho

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I’m not sure how you’d find VP relatable though.

In any case, replace the strikers with whoever you want from history, there’s still a problem in getting the ball to them and making chances, so I dunno.

I’m not sure how naive you have to be to genuinely believe one WC player upfront fixes everything.
 

L3T5 PL4Y

Flair Accuser
This team is quite a bit better than what RVP showed he could do in his final year but if Arteta got him to chase runners all game it would be a disaster. Pretty sure the teach would reach a different level if we let him and his supporting forwards do as they pleased however.

Neither Auba or Lacazette are going to rip teams a new one by themselves like RVP could but setting up properly they at least have the quality to make goals happen if they ain't chasing runners and trying to win the ball back near our own box.
 

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