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✍️ OFFICIAL Aaron Ramsdale (Out)

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Paperino

It’s Timo Time

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Something worth considering with him going on loan.
Raya turns 29 in September. Is the plan to keep Ramsdale, send him on loan to see if he matures (sorts his concentration issues, etc) and takes back the number 1 shirt next season from a 30 year old Raya?

Ramsdale is 26. He will never become significantly better than he is now.
 

Rasmi

Prophet of Doom

Country: England
Something worth considering with him going on loan.
Raya turns 29 in September. Is the plan to keep Ramsdale, send him on loan to see if he matures (sorts his concentration issues, etc) and takes back the number 1 shirt next season from a 30 year old Raya?
Is 30 old for a keeper? Rays has 4-5 years left on his prime
 

Pepesuave

Active Member
A loan move where he gets significant playing time is probably the best move for the club. He is still at a "young" age for a goalkeeper so should command a decent transfer fee next summer if he plays to his normal standards.
Edu needs to ensure that there is a recall option in January if he does not start at least 70% of their games
 

Red London

Anti-Simp Culture
Something worth considering with him going on loan.
Raya turns 29 in September. Is the plan to keep Ramsdale, send him on loan to see if he matures (sorts his concentration issues, etc) and takes back the number 1 shirt next season from a 30 year old Raya?
Haha but in his message he says that GK ages are different (and I tend to agree). Raya being 30 is like an outfield player being like 26. That’s not really an issue.

Also in regards to Ramsdale, I think arteta has made his decision on him. Unless he suddenly becomes a master with the ball at his feet at Nottingham Forrest, he’s finished here.
 

TriniGunner

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Ramsdale is 26. He will never become significantly better than he is now.
As a goalkeeping coach I disagree 100%. Most of us mature around late 20's, early 30's. The position takes many years of developing your own style, your own strengths and improving your weaknesses. Added to that, playing with different defensive systems can either improve or worsen a lot of your abilities. Ramsdale is a good shot stopper but obviously Arteta wants a keeper that's more comfortable with the ball at his feet under pressure.
 

Paperino

It’s Timo Time

Country: Sweden
As a goalkeeping coach I disagree 100%. Most of us mature around late 20's, early 30's. The position takes many years of developing your own style, your own strengths and improving your weaknesses. Added to that, playing with different defensive systems can either improve or worsen a lot of your abilities. Ramsdale is a good shot stopper but obviously Arteta wants a keeper that's more comfortable with the ball at his feet under pressure.

Dont think there are any modern examples of goalkeepers that became significantly better after reaching 26.
 

Gn1212

ITK Police 👮
Haha but in his message he says that GK ages are different (and I tend to agree). Raya being 30 is like an outfield player being like 26. That’s not really an issue.

Also in regards to Ramsdale, I think arteta has made his decision on him. Unless he suddenly becomes a master with the ball at his feet at Nottingham Forrest, he’s finished here.
I think it's important to mention that Ramsdale is actually pretty good with his feet. We've seen him ping some pinpoint balls that led to dangerous attacks before.

Aaron's problem is he can be too erratic which sometimes leads to him panicking that isn't just affecting his distro but also his positioning and overall decision making.
Ederson can be erratic too but that rarely results in hin panicking. He's always relaxed.

I do agree that Arteta has made a decision on him. He's been asked about Rambo's character this season and he highlighted that's just who he is and he shouldn't try to be someone he's not.
 

Gn1212

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Dont think there are any modern examples of goalkeepers that became significantly better after reaching 26.
This new generation of goalkeepers is pretty fresh so obviously you wouldn't find ones.

There are goalies who figured things out and became some of the best in their position closer to their thirties. Bounou, Navas and Martinez are some recent examples.

I can see what you're saying being an accurate projection though because of the position becoming more complex now.
 

TriniGunner

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Dont think there are any modern examples of goalkeepers that became significantly better after reaching 26.
Courtois, Allison, Oblak and even Pickford got better as they got older. Trust me on this one, we get better with age as long as we're playing.
 

Tnegs

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26 years old, England international, PFA team of the year 2 seasons ago and the best we are looking at is a loan deal to Forest?

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SupersoakerArsene

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So why don't sell Ramsdale & buy Guillaume Restes? He is 19 and already better. If he is 30 he will be the first goalkeeper to concede under 5 goals in the league!
 

Malky

Established Member
Ramsdale is 26. He will never become significantly better than he is now.
No one said he needs to become significantly better, it’s more about him maturing. He’s not going to do that sitting on the bench, he needs game time and stop with his passion merchant nonsense.
 
26 years old, England international, PFA team of the year 2 seasons ago and the best we are looking at is a loan deal to Forest?

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He’s the ultimate confidence keeper. His displays last year weren’t exactly that of a top keeper so not exactly a surprise no one wants to pay top dollar.

He needs regular game time so a loan isn’t a bad idea
 

Batman

Hard on crime, soft on Stan

Country: USA

Player:Saliba
26 years old, England international, PFA team of the year 2 seasons ago and the best we are looking at is a loan deal to Forest?

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Unfortunately for us, other teams have a memory better than Biden's and haven't forgotten all of his high profile errors or that he was stupid enough to say in an interview that he's incapable of concentrating for 90 minutes.
 
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