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Aaron Ramsey: BianconAaron

Do You Consider Aaron Ramsey An Arsenal Legend?


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Aevi

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Crystal Westbrooks. Thank me later! :lol:

My previous avatar was Babestation legend Dani O'Neal, who is a Gooner!
Liked the other one better, had an Arsenal jersey as well!

Damn it, getting derailed again...

Whats all this talk about ramsey on the right wing, hes not exactly stellar over there..
Our best run this season was with Theo at striker and Ramsey at "RW" (quotation because it was arguably not his role). Argument doesn't hold. Not that I actually love him there, it's possible Theo at striker was what made us that good.
 

MutableEarth

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Whats all this talk about ramsey on the right wing, hes not exactly stellar over there..

He provided the midfield balance that Wenger likes. I mentioned in the other thread about Ramsey that he almost acts as a spare man wherever he is. Think how Ray Parlour was used from 98-onwards. Back then, Wenger would tilt his 4-4-2 into a 4-3-3 with Overmars pushing further up alongside Bergkamp and Anelka while Parlour dropped into midfield in the early phases of play, and then make his runs from deep.

Ramsey functions slightly differently in that he's given an almost free role when we have possession and pops up pretty much everywhere to help keep possession and his energy on the right hand side helps support Bellerin on the right.

Liked the other one better, had an Arsenal jersey as well!

Damn it, getting derailed again...


Our best run this season was with Theo at striker and Ramsey at "RW" (quotation because it was arguably not his role). Argument doesn't hold. Not that I actually love him there, it's possible Theo at striker was what made us that good.

Possibly - Walcott's movement made it easier for space to be exploited, even if he himself wasn't performing that well, which he actually hasn't performed to his best yet this season. Man United at home was the nadir but that had much to do with the tactical change Wenger made that gave him and Alexis more room further forward and Ramsey (again) tucked in from the right hand side during the defensive phase.

This is her without the Arsenal jersey :lol:
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@MutableEarth seems like such a wholesome, gentle soul, then his avatar goes fully skanky-ass porn slosher. :confused:

I get that a lot funnily enough :lol: - let's just say my taste in women is decidedly not very wholesome!
 

Aevi

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Spoiler: Just for you lol
The Arsenal jersey was what did it for me, I'm not really a fan of the exaggerated bits.

Baaaaack on topic ( :lol: ), what is strange about his game is that he plays overall neither poorly nor greatly, rather being a mix of both. Hopefully, as we have been saying, this is only due to a lack of confidence or else he doesn't cut it. Needs to take consistency levels with Monreal, who clearly has something ticking in his head.

I once saw an interview on Toni Kroos post-World Cup, and the reporter mentioned his almost game-ending error of heading the ball backwards and to Higuain, who luckily scuffed it. Kroos said he wasn't to affected by it at all, and that he didn't think about it, because in the end football is just a game and all ended well. Ramsey needs a similar attitude/outlook in which he relieves himself of pressure by not overthinking in what he needs to accomplish at every given moment, and just letting his instincts take over. To a certain extent anyways, or else he'll just be sitting in the box :lol:
 
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Trilly

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Been a mixed season IMO for Ramsey. Sometimes I look at him and think he just tries to too hard to do too much and ends up undoing his good work. He'll do a great touch then a sh*t pass, or he'll take too long to make a decision or make the decision to quickly. I think he needs to calm down and focus sometimes when he's on the pitch. Keep it basic and play to his strengths. He's a good passer, decent technical level, great stamina, an adequate tackler and above all, he's ambitious. That, to me, stands him in good stead, and his amition and character will always make him an indispensable squad member in my eyes.

At this moment in time, he's falling back a little bit on his own ambitious play in an attempt to force his way into good form and he just needs to calm down a bit and just play his game. Just like Ox needs to calm down.
How the hell is anyone supposed to read your posts with that avatar?!

Jesus Christ.
 

celestis

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Hang on , he was having a good season to me playing on the right . He was also gettting plenty of scoring chances just not putting them away .
 

WhatAFC

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Hang on , he was having a good season to me playing on the right . He was also gettting plenty of scoring chances just not putting them away .
He's always been like that other than the 13/14 season.

12/13: 40% shooting accuracy
13/14: 71%
14/15: 36%
15/16: 53%

He will always get the chances he just needs to score a couple in a row and regain his composure in front of goal.
 

say yes

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He's clearly out of form but I don't think he's doing that badly in the centre. Just we all know he can do a lot better.
 

celestis

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He's always been like that other than the 13/14 season.

12/13: 40% shooting accuracy
13/14: 71%
14/15: 36%
15/16: 53%

He will always get the chances he just needs to score a couple in a row and regain his composure in front of goal.

Scored a lot of goals from the flanks for us before the leg break though . Pretty efficient for club and country .
 

Stoneh

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I think were pining the blame on Flamini too much for Aarons major weakness, dicipline. They suppose to work together and at Liverpool , Stoke and Chelsea we had no midfield.
Flamini is terrible, we know that but hes not an excuse for Ramsey giving ball away or worse.. not being there.

The above 3 games, we needed steel and both these two were running ragged rather than sit and keep in position to break oppositions attacks. As it happened the opposition bypassed our midfield as it wasnt there.

Look at Chelseas goal.. Flamini runs infront of Gab and Kos, he shouldnt be there. Im sure he caused some confusion in defence for the goal.

Saying Ramsey hes better alongside Coq doesnt make him stay in position. Hes a good player but not as a DM or CM pairing.
 

GOONER1991

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Think that people have gone overboard on Ramsey, I don't think he's been bad at all recently. I've said before, the midfield is clearly unbalanced due to Flamini in the midfield, who is literally just another body on the pitch. Flamini offers nothing but backwards, 5 yard passes.

Cazorla and Ramsey are two different kinds of player. Ramsey's movement is sublime and he consistently looks for the ball between lines. Unfortunately, Flamini cannot provide that pass. Consider our midfield has Özil and Ramsey - two players with sublime movement, but they need someone who can find them in those positions. Arteta could at his peak, but Flamini is barely a footballer these days.

I would agree, it's sink or swim time for Ramsey this season. Coquelin is back, and while his passing ability is unproven, it's undoubtedly levels above Flamini's. Coquelin's first touch is also sublime, which enables him to open space for himself. Very interested to see what Ramsey can produce.

While I am a huge advocate of Ramsey in midfield, particularly over Cazorla, the lack of midfield control recently has bothered me. I need to see Ramsey with an adequate partner.

NB: Lad needs to stop with the unnecessary touches though. I complain about Cazorla doing it and I have to with Ramsey.
 

eye4goal

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In transitions especially his positioning is too risky. A couple of times(while 11 v 11) he gave it to Theo and then Özil(in our half) and then sprinted to the final 3rd leaving them surrounded by 3-4 Chelsea players and subsequently losing it. I think the past couple of months have shown that Cazorla is as influential as Özil, only from a deeper position.
 

natural

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Ramsey's form is shi*ty, but I'm sure he will bounce back and start scoring goals for fun again, just give him a chance.
 

Tir Na Nog

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It's weird there was nothing wrong with his midfield game partnered with Flamini or Arteta in the 13/14 season. I do think people are going a tad overboard on Ramsey, I mean vs Stoke for example he looked to be the player really trying to take the game by the scruff of the neck. While against Liverpool he provided a constant threat getting a goal and an assist. While the Chelsea performance......we all know what happened there.

We're yet to really see him too much alongside Coquelin, so we'll have to see a judge that for itself, however it's clear Coquelin won't need as much help as Flamini does. Coquelin's very good at covering a lot of ground and I also think his passing is severely underrated too. We'll see how they fair together.

I don't think we should discourage Ramsey going forward either, it's one of the strongest parts of his game and it's a reason why we've been so successful in various games in recent years. When they're trying to mark Özil, Ramseys runs are extremely important.
 
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