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Aaron Ramsey: BianconAaron

Do You Consider Aaron Ramsey An Arsenal Legend?


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Vinci

The Sultan of Unai

Country: Netherlands
It's not that hard. 400K gross, tax rate in Italy for high incomes is 43%, so 228K a week net basic salary.

And because it's a free transfer I'm sure there's a lot of different performance related bonuses as well, big signing fee, etc.
 

blaze_of_glory

Moderator
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Country: Canada

"The term mezzala, in contemporary Italian, indicates a position in a three-man midfield. Thus, in a 4-3-3, the central spot in the midfield will usually be occupied by a playmaker (regista), flanked by two mezzale. If the simplicity of the definition feels anti-climactic, that's because it should: a mezzala is simply any midfielder playing on one of the two sides in a three-man midfield. It may alternatively be used to describe any central midfielder whose role is not specialised (someone flanking the playmaker in a four-man midfield, for instance)"

So basically how he's played for much of his time here. Cheers Italy.
 

Ricardinho

La Liga Correspondent
He's our highest scoring midfielder ever. And missed over an entire season through injury (maybe this is a knock against him, but also means your numbers don't mean much).

Whenever people start talking about goals/assists in a single competition rather than overall, you just know they're trying to spin something.

Its a great achievement but at the same time I think we need to factor in just how many more games we play through a season compared to years gone by. Constantly in Europe with a minimum 6 games each year during rambos spell here.

Does anyone know what % of games he has featured in during his time here? probably a tough one to work out to be fair.
 

squallman

Still Pining for Wenger
In 11 years here, Ramsey scored 38 league goals. That's an average of about 3-4 goals a season. He also 46 assists in that time, an average of about 4 a season.

You have to take off the nostalgia glasses and realise that in the cold light of day, Ramsey's demands didn't represent a good return of investment.

This is beyond disingenuous.

Ramsey came here as an 18 year old kid and was used mainly as a sub in the early days. He then got his leg broken, missed a year of action and took a year to rehab which included loans at Nottingham Forest and Cardiff City.

He's basically had around 7-8 years of being a first team player for us.

Did I also mention that when he first came he was a CM? Despite his goal scoring exploits, he isn't a creative midfielder in the mould of an Özil or Zidane. So expecting a high number of assists from him isn't fair.

He also got his leg snapped in two during a crucial stage of development by a Stoke neanderthal. The fact that he managed to come back to this level at all is a testament to his character and footballing ability. Especially when you consider how he was on course to be so much more.
 

razörist

Soft With The Ladies, Hard With The Mes

Country: Morocco
Great, I’m crying. Everything I know and love related to this club is gone or almost gone. The invincibles. Arsène. Arsène’s young gunners. Our playstyle. Only Mesut left, and he’s gone soon too. Tough times. Hope we get a good kit next season because Puma is making me hate that too.
 

Batman

Head of the Wayne foundation for benching Nketiah

Country: USA

Player:Saliba
Saying Ramsey and Özil don’t have chemistry makes me question if one is actually watching when they play together. Better duo than @Batman and @Robin
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progman07

Established Member
Seriously, in Ramsey's 11 years here, how much of it to you think he was fit and in form?

He had that 6 month purple patch a few years ago. A couple of good months last season. Maybe a couple before that?

I reckon about 2 years of those 11 were Ramsey in form and match fit. The rest he was either injured, or recovering from injury, trying to get match sharpness.
I don't believe anyone would judge him on this, but Bergkamp's league goals onwards from the 99/00 season:
6, 3, 9, 4, 4, 8, 2

League goals are a very small part of the story. For Ramsey's faults, he has scored many important and big goals for us.
 

dashsnow17

Doesn’t Rate Any Of Our Attackers
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Firstly this is just a really interesting interview, secondly how f*cking depressing is it that in a couple of sentences this guy has figured out Ramsey better than we ever did in 11 years. I mean it’s obvious he should be the roamer in a 3 man mid, we’ve known that for ages, it’s just absurd that we’ve basically never seen it.
 

dashsnow17

Doesn’t Rate Any Of Our Attackers
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In this respect I’m more glad about the deal, at least he’s going somewhere that know what he’s about and will deploy him properly.
 

Escy

Member
I'm a Cardiff City fan and have watched a lot of Arsenal since Ramsey moved. In my opinion Ramsey has never truly been accepted by a section of the Arsenal fans as witnessed on this forum. It's frankly embarrassing, he's been given a rough ride and not appreciated fully, he's had spells where his form dipped, coming back from injury and being played in the wrong position (on the wing) and he's been getting booed by his own fans. That's out of order as far as i'm concerned.

The first 4 or so years half of you lot considered him Jack Wilshere's understudy when it was clear he was the better player. The English bias in the media helped fuel that thinking. If Ramsey was English he'd have been held in much higher regard. He's the best British central midfielder around and has been for the last 5+ years (and now he has the contract to prove it). He performs in big games for club and country, always gives 100% and never hides when things aren't going his way.

Arsène Wenger clearly liked Ramsey but I feel he didn't help him playing him out wide so much to accommodate Özil. For me, Ramsey is a better player than Özil and he proved it during Euro 2016. The problem is, Özil came in on big money and was a big name signing so Ramsey got pushed wide, regardless of how well Özil actually played.

I'm glad he's moved onto a bigger and better club that's actually going to challenge for league titles. I think it's a perfect move for him and he'll flourish in that side.
 

YeahBee

Terrible hot takes

Firstly this is just a really interesting interview, secondly how f*cking depressing is it that in a couple of sentences this guy has figured out Ramsey better than we ever did in 11 years. I mean it’s obvious he should be the roamer in a 3 man mid, we’ve known that for ages, it’s just absurd that we’ve basically never seen it.

Amen

Been saying that for ages

Even back when jack was playing
 

Mrs Bergkamp

Double Dusted
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Firstly this is just a really interesting interview, secondly how f*cking depressing is it that in a couple of sentences this guy has figured out Ramsey better than we ever did in 11 years. I mean it’s obvious he should be the roamer in a 3 man mid, we’ve known that for ages, it’s just absurd that we’ve basically never seen it.
It was pretty obvious tbf but we never bought the players to make that system work choosing instead to wait on captain Jack to get fit. Also, Ramsey has evolved as a player and with Torreira signing this year, this season should have been the one to repair the broken midfield.
 

blaze_of_glory

Moderator
Moderator

Country: Canada

Firstly this is just a really interesting interview, secondly how f*cking depressing is it that in a couple of sentences this guy has figured out Ramsey better than we ever did in 11 years. I mean it’s obvious he should be the roamer in a 3 man mid, we’ve known that for ages, it’s just absurd that we’ve basically never seen it.
Based on what I’ve read about that position, I don’t really see how it’s much different than how he played here for us as a CM under Wenger.
 

Mark Tobias

Mr. Agreeable
The English bias in the media helped fuel that thinking. If Ramsey was English he'd have been held in much higher regard. He's the best British central midfielder around and has been for the last 5+ years (and now he has the contract to prove it).

Lies. Because he isn't English? I know a lot of people with no affinity for England, because they don't live there, who have always disliked Ramsey..
He's the best British Central Midfielder? Dele Alli and Jordan Henderson both say hello.
Now I don't particularly rate either of them as miles ahead of Ramsey but what you do tend to get with them is consistency. Less so with Alli but he is only 22.
You're right, Rambo does perform as hard as he can and never hides. He is a work horse for sure. Problem is he is also guaranteed to be out for 25% of the season and then takes a few weeks to get back into it again.

There's also the fact that maybe Aaron WANTS to leave. Needs a new challenge and wants to experience a different side of the game.

I get your Cardiff bias but the Jack Wilshere hogwash was just that.. Hogwash. Jack is gone and it has been clear for some time that he was never going to make it here. You've based half your argument on the 'fact' that the fans are English and ergo have a bias. Which is the detrimental flaw in your argument because MANY fans, on this forum alone, are not from England and have never been to England and we still think Ramsey isn't good enough at times.
 

Ricardinho

La Liga Correspondent
Lies. Because he isn't English? I know a lot of people with no affinity for England, because they don't live there, who have always disliked Ramsey..
He's the best British Central Midfielder? Dele Alli and Jordan Henderson both say hello.
Now I don't particularly rate either of them as miles ahead of Ramsey but what you do tend to get with them is consistency. Less so with Alli but he is only 22.
You're right, Rambo does perform as hard as he can and never hides. He is a work horse for sure. Problem is he is also guaranteed to be out for 25% of the season and then takes a few weeks to get back into it again.

There's also the fact that maybe Aaron WANTS to leave. Needs a new challenge and wants to experience a different side of the game.

I get your Cardiff bias but the Jack Wilshere hogwash was just that.. Hogwash. Jack is gone and it has been clear for some time that he was never going to make it here. You've based half your argument on the 'fact' that the fans are English and ergo have a bias. Which is the detrimental flaw in your argument because MANY fans, on this forum alone, are not from England and have never been to England and we still think Ramsey isn't good enough at times.

Accuses us of bias while being biased himself. Not sure why you gave him the satisfaction of a reply :bounce:
away fans should be restricted from posting in this section
 
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