Aaron Ramsey (Out)

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  1. dashsnow17

    dashsnow17 Well-Known Member

    We shouldn't be choosing between Ramsey and Wilshere in the first place. A top club would expect both of them to compete in the squad. Anyway if it is a choice between the two, in footballing terms it's hardly sensible to pick Wilshere over Ramsey. As of yet Wilshere is a player who produces moments of quality play but does not control games or change games with end product, while Ramsey does have the end product at least.

    Anyway, they should both stay. They shouldn't be nailed on starters, but they should be in the squad competing with each other under a new manager.
     
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  2. MaraDon

    MaraDon Wants you to learn about football

    i want to wake up.
    what a ****ing nightmare what the **** is happening in our club.
     
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  3. GDeep™

    GDeep™ Hipster

    Losing players consistently for under market value. Coutinho left for an inflated price. Can is the first I can remember in years who looks like he’ll leave for free.

    At Arsenal it’s nearly every season players are leaving for below their real value. Ramsey for 20M? His value should be more than 3 times that.
     
  4. carlito'sway

    carlito'sway Well-Known Member

    Can't see him starting for PSG over the likes of Veratti or Rabiot. I don't give much credence to the 20 M number price tag but having said that, I would not against selling Ramsey and replacing him with a solid, disciplined and creative CM. I would sell Xhaka as well and rebuild out CM. Those two are misfits and are simply not good enough.
     
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  5. kraphtous

    kraphtous Well-Known Member

    I‘m glad he‘s being sold but we should be getting more than that.

    I mean Oxlade-Chamberlain was £40m with a similar contract.
     
  6. GDeep™

    GDeep™ Hipster

    He’s not being sold though is he, he’s forcing our hand.
     
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  7. kraphtous

    kraphtous Well-Known Member

    He‘s getting sold though. If we desperately wanted to keep him we could, just as we did with Alexis and Özil.

    Alas.
     
  8. GDeep™

    GDeep™ Hipster

    He doesn’t want negotiations apparently, has had top 4 clubs in his ear for months.

    Ramsey wants no part here anymore, he has forced our hand.
     
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  9. GDeep™

    GDeep™ Hipster

    Think he’ll join Liverpool, they need a CM and Gerrard loves him.
     
  10. kraphtous

    kraphtous Well-Known Member

    Liverpool are signing Jorginho, they won‘t waste their time with Ramsey.
     
  11. GDeep™

    GDeep™ Hipster

    Chelsea then. Or even Utd.
     
  12. kraphtous

    kraphtous Well-Known Member

    Doubt it, Chelsea already have Drinkater and Barkley as the dumb british talent in midfield.

    United lol.

    Fear not, Ramsey will sign a new contract here before ending up at Everton in a few years. It‘s just how we roll.
     
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  13. Brown Gooner

    Brown Gooner DoN'T ceNsOR maH FreE SpEecH

    The sad state of Arsenal F.C. (Arsenal Finances and Commerce).
    Instead of having great squad depth we look to balance our budget by selling players to bring in new ones. Its as if someone forgot to tell the club that this isn’t 2006-09 and the Emirates has been paid off for. There is no need to sell your top players and instead winning stuff will make up for buying new guys.

    Arsenal take one step forward but two steps back (Auba in was accompanied by Giroud and Sanchez out, and we lost a lot of goals between those two)

    Davinson Sanchez has Real/Barca written all over him. Yes the contract till 2023 could be an issue but I can see him going near 2020-21.

    That was a great buy from Spurs and even better tying him down to a six year deal. Arsenal should have hijacked that deal.

    As for Ramsey’s prospects in the PL. I can see Liverpool and Chelsea getting him and possibly using him well. United under Jose probably won’t want him.
     
  14. Aevius

    Aevius World Cup Prediction Champion Moderator

    Brighton are trashing us, there are no excuses
     
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  15. Stannis

    Stannis Well-Known Member

    Liverpool are doing what we should have being doing

    If anything we have swapped positions with them and

    At the time I really wanted us to go for Klopp and I have no doubt he would have picked us if we offered. The trajectories of the club since are obvious

    Wenger really has to leave this season, it’s incredibly depressing

    And make no doubt about, if fit Ramsey will be amazing under a new coach. People can be quite and shy yet still love the club. Just because jack is a loudmouth doesn’t mean he loves the club more or less. Actions determine that.

    People seem to forget that before this season jack barely posted anything arsenal related and related any mention of arsenal in his social media bios both before and after his loan.
     
  16. Slartibartfast

    Slartibartfast Well-Known Member

    Yes, you can. Whatever you think of the manager, the players are the ones who are out there making mistakes, failing to mark on set pieces and simply not being good enough. If there's a new manager, he should be able to sort through and replace any and as many players as he deems not good enough or not committed enough. How can you possibly watch what's going on in the first half against Brighton and not be fed up with the players? The truth is, Arsenal has probably been overachieving for a long time considering a lower level of talent than the ones who spoiled everyone a decade ago and more. But this year they're not. They're just simply not good enough.
     
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  17. samshere

    samshere Why so serieuse?

    Where are you getting 20m from? Daily Mail? If he leaves it'll be for around 50m. Ox left for 40m which was fair value, I think. Sanchez is the only player that left below value in recent history and that was because we couldn't meet his wage demands.
    I doubt if we're picking anyone, we're just letting things align themselves off their own accord. Thats how I see it, its a passive style of management which waits for external factors to help shape the team. I don't agree with this, I'm just pointing out the weak-kneed nature of our business and I feel this will be another example of that.
     
  18. Juan Matas Beard

    Juan Matas Beard Friendly Mancunian facial hair

    Why not tbh, we're in need of numbers in midfield. Carrick joining our coaching staff, Fellaini leaving. We are down to our bare bones with McTominay albeit playing well as one of our main starters.

    Also where are you getting Liverpool are signing Jorginho from, there are a number of clubs in for him including Man United, Liverpool and Man City.
     
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  19. Vinci

    Vinci The Sultan of Unai

    Think Ramsey is too much like Pogba for you, he's best in a free role and not suited to distributing play from deep. You need an heir to Carrick more than anything.
     
  20. Juan Matas Beard

    Juan Matas Beard Friendly Mancunian facial hair

    That's fair.
     
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