Discussion in 'Arsenal Talk' started by Aevius, Jan 29, 2016.
Watch us play.
i have already explained many many times why Ramsey is key.
it shouldn't be this hard to understand.
Arsenal: Rambo, we wanna tie you down. Let’s talk numbers. You’re an important part of this team.
Ramsey: I’m 27, this will be one of the last big contracts I sign. I feel something in the ball
park of £250k p/w would be reasonable..
Arsenal: We’re eager to extend your deal, but we feel £250k p/w is a bit excessive. Özil has just signed an expensive deal and we’re also trying to extend Jack Wilshere’s contract. Can we compromise?
Ramsey: No disrespect to Wilshere, I rate him highly, but can you honestly say he deserves parity with me? I’ve contribued more- I deserve more money.
i would argue that Ramsey is irreplasable and that if he becomes available he will attract interest from Real Madrid PSG Munich City and United.
Look at how Chelsea crumbled after Matic left.
our team breaths thanks to Ramsey.
Think we will just have to agree to disagree, I'm sure there will be interest from top clubs, but there are many better players out there than Ramsey.
If Ramsey wants a bigger contract than Jack then I think he's earned it.
Jack's a top player, but his injuries have stunted his development, and we seriously need to give players contracts based on their performance. Over the years Ramsey has been a more integral piece of our squad than Jack.
That doesn't mean Jack isn't a quality player or doesn't have more potential than Ramsey, but at 27 a contract is no longer about potential or your emotional attachment to the club.
Considering his injuries and the fact he was sent on loan last season, I think Jack should understand if he isn't one of the highest paid players at the club. And if he has a great season next year or the year after that, I doubt anyone will object to improving his contract.
Above all else, we have to make sure that both Jack and Ramsey stay.
He is very replaceable, he is in a position where there is an abundance of talent.
There is plenty of talk about Wilshere contract not moving but incentifying, yet Ramsey is asking 200+ ?
That's just ridiculous.
I am all for keeping him even though I'm his harshest critic, but it's as a squad player. If he's asking for this kind of pay rise or we get any offer above 35m you let him go.
He is consistently inconsistent.
Injured a lot
Those things are key and do not warrant 200+/week. There is a lot better out there for that price.
The ONLY problem with Ramsey is that he tends to be injured quite often.
He is a very very good player.
Did waiting with Alexis and Özil not give everyone enough of a headache?
Losing Aaron would be a big blow, can't really understand people wanting out our best all around CM.
I have and hes been doing as much wrong as Right Alot of Times'. I dont have time to look theough all your posts nor do i read everything on this forum. I dont understand your opinion cause i dont share it nor have i Seen your reasoning. Thats why i asked for it.
I really think it will be measured with Jack's contract.
They are both around same level.
Jack will sign for a certain fee first and Ramsey will be offered similar after.
There will be a limit, if he wants over then i think he will be sold. (don't think it'll be anywhere near 200k)
Özil as a captain? What are w people smoking? Özil is a follower and never a leader. Would be a very poor choice of a captain.
Ramsey doesn't deserve a better contract than Jack at present. The fact that Jack has produced more good peformances for us this season than Ramsey has managed to do in 4 seasons speaks volumes.
He's not even a CM. He's an AM who prefers being ahead of the ball than on it. We need a proper CM as our league position suggests. He's 100% replaceable. Nobody has been given more privileges at this club than him under Wenger.
Reading your posts really hurts my brain.
"They are both around same level" - while you constantly say Jack is way better and Ramsey should be sold if he demands money.
"There will be a limit, if he wants over then i think he will be sol" - oh really - like with every player in every club?
Tbf Wenger is completely right yet.
Ramsey there's no rush as he will either be sold or renew this summer. Jack can walk this summer.
You forgot option 3: Ramsey won’t renew, we won’t have the balls to sell him and he’ll stay at the club for the next season with all the uncertainty that brings.
Ramsey is very important to us and is one of our only goal threats outside of aubameyang, laca, mkhi. The guy has all the attributes you want in a cm, he's a nuisance with his late runs, can run 4 days, can tackle, has a decent through ball on him.
My only gripe with Ramsey is his lack of discipline, the guy will abandon the midfield at times to get a goal 4 himself which is annoying at times like against Everton he was great in 1st half then went AWOL in 2nd half I just don't understand what goes through his mind at times. We need to find a way to play him jack & Özil in the same team without affecting our balance as a team
Simply untrue. Wilshere looks like a breath of fresh air because he plays very differently and we haven't seen him in a while.
As for Ramsey contributions... FA cup games pop into mind right away for starters, but I certainly can't manage to scrounge through 4 years worth of PL games to find when he was marginally better.
And even if the performances were even or worse, the fact is that he has been available more often so that has to be accounted for.