Adieu Gaspar

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With the amount of money we've spent since Arteta came in (800m) challenging for the title is a bare minimum expectation. And he's bottled twice in a row probably 3 times including this season with City having major injuries in the last 2 seasons. Nothing much to shout about. Wenger was able to be competitive without spending such extravagant amount of money. Teta already spent close to what Wenger did in his over 20 years at the club in 5 years. And what've we got to show in the last 5 years? One FA Cup and that was with the squad Emery left behind. We've won absolutely nothing since he's dismantled that squad. 1 fcking cup in 5 years. Even Ten Hag had a better return. And now we're worse off this season compared to the last. What phase are we supposed to be in now?

A couple of bad results & you are panicking.
Wenger managed in different times as soon as abramovich & the nation states moved in we couldn't compete for the title.
For the majority that time we only competed for domestic Cups.

If you are happy with just competing for domestic cups fair enough. In that regard Ten Hag is better than Arteta lol.
We have competed seriously with a nation state managed by Pep for the last 2 seasons.
I would much sooner be there than winning an Fa Cup & finishing 8th.
It's harder than ever now. 8 big clubs challenging for top places.
Corrupt City are the best Prem side ever.

You talk about Arteta spending money & challenging for the title is a minimum requirement.

Chelsea & Man U who have outspent us both missed out on top 4 last season.

By your standards they should be competing for the league ahead of us & we should be 4th at best .

 

[db10_therza]

A couple of bad results & you are panicking.
Wenger managed in different times as soon as abramovich & the nation states moved in we couldn't compete for the title.
For the majority that time we only competed for domestic Cups.

If you are happy with just competing for domestic cups fair enough. In that regard Ten Hag is better than Arteta lol.
We have competed seriously with a nation state managed by Pep for the last 2 seasons.
I would much sooner be there than winning an Fa Cup & finishing 8th.
It's harder than ever now. 8 big clubs challenging for top places.
Corrupt City are the best Prem side ever.

You talk about Arteta spending money & challenging for the title is a minimum requirement.

Chelsea & Man U who have outspent us both missed out on top 4 last season.

By your standards they should be competing for the league ahead of us & we should be 4th at best .

Are you seriously debating with someone called GDeepFanBoy right now?

 

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Are you seriously debating with someone called GDeepFanBoy right now?

I thought it may have been the genuine GDeep Biggin himself up

 

[Diesel]

Any shouts on replacement

 

[Yousif Arsenal]

So if I'm not wrong his guy Kia has lot of influence in edu going to work with this Greek owner?

I read in guardian article says Kia met with the Greek owner in Portugal not long ago regarding edu taking role in his club empire also Greek owner want to buy club in Portugal.

 

[TriniGunner]

With the amount of money we've spent since Arteta came in (800m) challenging for the title is a bare minimum expectation. And he's bottled twice in a row probably 3 times including this season with City having major injuries in the last 2 seasons. Nothing much to shout about. Wenger was able to be competitive without spending such extravagant amount of money. Teta already spent close to what Wenger did in his over 20 years at the club in 5 years. And what've we got to show in the last 5 years? One FA Cup and that was with the squad Emery left behind. We've won absolutely nothing since he's dismantled that squad. 1 fcking cup in 5 years. Even Ten Hag had a better return. And now we're worse off this season compared to the last. What phase are we supposed to be in now?

The spending isn't the same as it was under Wenger. Inflation and the rising costs of everything has made it seem like everyone is spending a lot of money, when it fact, the price of players has gone through the roof over the past 15 years.

 

[lomekian]

I don't want to sound patronising but I don't think you understand football finances, which is fair because it isn't something people really come across.

We've matched Citys spend over the last 5 years because they haven't spent as much recently. On the whole, we haven't actually spent that much for a big club.

Net spend is also completely irrelevant to clubs. Transfer fees spent get spread out over 5 years in club accounts and transfer fees from sold players get paid in full on the books. Hence why City utilising the academy for "pure profit" puts them in such a healthy situation along with their revenue.

I'm under the impression, for example, if west ham demand £60M up front for Rice then KSE have stepped in as they can pump in £100M of their own money to use. But regardless of that the books will still show Rice as costing £21M a year.

For someone not wanting to sound patronising, you do a very good job of it! What you say above has no bearing on the point I am making. I'm not saying we are skint, I'm saying that due to the lack of likely pure profit sales on the horizon, we cannot long term compete financially with City's potential (and Utd and a few others) in the market, and thus should IN ADDITION to buying ready made first team players, should aspire to look for market inefficiencies to bring in the best talent earlier in their development cycle. (for example, how much would Saliba have cost if we had waited 2 more years?)

For the record, I have written articles about Arsenal's finances that have been picked up and re-distributed by national and international mainstream media outlets. I have interviewed football finance experts for my old podcast, and have also witten blogs about Arsenal's finances. Despite my very different life now, I studied financial matters and had respsonsibility for financial record keeping for multiple projects and organisations. I fully understand how football finances work.

 

[Sebastes]

So if I'm not wrong his guy Kia has lot of influence in edu going to work with this Greek owner?

I read in guardian article says Kia met with the Greek owner in Portugal not long ago regarding edu taking role in his club empire also Greek owner want to buy club in Portugal.

He already owns Rio Ave, no? Think he’s looking to buy a fourth club in some other country in Europe

 

[ASAP Berg]

Forest have been hunting in the Brazilian market and got some good steaks recently in Danilo and Murillo so I can see why they want Edu on the BBQ.

No big loss, we need someone to help identify and execute moves for great attacking talents.

 

[GDeepfanboy]

The spending isn't the same as it was under Wenger. Inflation and the rising costs of everything has made it seem like everyone is spending a lot of money, when it fact, the price of players has gone through the roof over the past 15 years.

A couple of bad results & you are panicking.
Wenger managed in different times as soon as abramovich & the nation states moved in we couldn't compete for the title.
For the majority that time we only competed for domestic Cups.

If you are happy with just competing for domestic cups fair enough. In that regard Ten Hag is better than Arteta lol.
We have competed seriously with a nation state managed by Pep for the last 2 seasons.
I would much sooner be there than winning an Fa Cup & finishing 8th.
It's harder than ever now. 8 big clubs challenging for top places.
Corrupt City are the best Prem side ever.

You talk about Arteta spending money & challenging for the title is a minimum requirement.

Chelsea & Man U who have outspent us both missed out on top 4 last season.

By your standards they should be competing for the league ahead of us & we should be 4th at best .

So just because United and Chelski are bad spenders and performing below expectations we should stoop down to their level and pat ourselves on the back for not being as bad as them? Talk about being a big club and being ambitious ey?

And are you forgetting how dominant United were in the 90s? They were unmatched in the league and had great spending power until Wenger came into the picture and gave them a run for their money. And he certainly did not nearly get the club relegated when he first took over and got rewarded another 800m to spend for his poor performance to win 1 trophy in 5 years. He spent wisely and got players like Henry and Vieira for cheap and did not spend bucket loads on ****ters like Havertz and GJ. And look at how fast Emery turned around Villa's fortune turning them from relegation battlers to European contenders within a season. He certainly did not need any BS "process" and PR excuses like Arteta.

 

[scytheavatar]

Pretty ridiculous for us to diminish Edu's responsibilities and then offer him a pay hike when he's on his way out.......... this suggests the club is more clueless and rudderless than people want to admit.

 

[Yousif Arsenal]

He already owns Rio Ave, no? Think he’s looking to buy a fourth club in some other country in Europe

Likely Monza the Italian club

 

[Riou]

Called GDeepfanboy, but with a Say Yes avi...

 

[Goonger]

So just because United and Chelski are bad spenders and performing below expectations we should stoop down to their level and pat ourselves on the back for not being as bad as them? Talk about being a big club and being ambitious ey?

And are you forgetting how dominant United were in the 90s? They were unmatched in the league and had great spending power until Wenger came into the picture and gave them a run for their money. And he certainly did not nearly get the club relegated when he first took over and got rewarded another 800m to spend for his poor performance to win 1 trophy in 5 years. He spent wisely and got players like Henry and Vieira for cheap and did not spend bucket loads on ****ters like Havertz and GJ. And look at how fast Emery turned around Villa's fortune turning them from relegation battlers to European contenders within a season. He certainly did not need any BS "process" and PR excuses like Arteta.

You are a bit all over the place. You point out that spending £800M you should be fighting for a title bare minimum, is that not what we've been doing? No-one is saying we aspire to be in Chelsea and Utd's position (they actually aspire to be in ours), but they are evidence that it's not just about spending lots of money, you need to spend it with a plan, with the right players and the right manager. They are evidence that it's quite easy to get it wrong. Of course we want to do better, of course we want to win trophies, and ultimately Arteta will continue to be assessed and judged on that, but we are closer along that path than most, so surely that's a good thing?

 

[Yousif Arsenal]

Any shouts on replacement

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1849501420560826540

likely this guy will take edu role for time being until club decide who they gonna hire. i'm sure arsenal job gonna be exciting for many well known directors.

 

[2 White Thighs]

I accidentally turned on my webcam - I beat the **** out of my webcam cos it looked at me funny.

I accidentally turned on my webcam - The webcam dropped its lense and started moving seductively towards 2 white thighs.

Which one?

Let's just say my webcam has a weakness for pale upper legs

 

[GDeepfanboy]

You are a bit all over the place. You point out that spending £800M you should be fighting for a title bare minimum, is that not what we've been doing? No-one is saying we aspire to be in Chelsea and Utd's position (they actually aspire to be in ours), but they are evidence that it's not just about spending lots of money, you need to spend it with a plan, with the right players and the right manager. They are evidence that it's quite easy to get it wrong. Of course we want to do better, of course we want to win trophies, and ultimately Arteta will continue to be assessed and judged on that, but we are closer along that path than most, so surely that's a good thing?

Looking at how we've bottled the last 2 seasons despite having very good luck with injuries and now about to do so this season again with injuries finally hitting us you seriously think we are getting anywhere forward with Arteta in charge? We're already going backwards at this stage of the season compared to the last. 7 points behind Liverpool and 5 points behind City already and it's not even Christmas yet ffs. Also we're behind Forest and level with Villa lol.

After 5 seasons and over 200 games if you're still failing to see Arteta's not the one to bring us to the next level with his poor transfer recruitments and terrible in-game management as well as terrible negative football being played then you're simply simping for the sake of it. He is a mediocre manager simple as that. If Wenger was given the same amount of money and resources that Teta is afforded he would've won the title at least twice already.

We could've gotten Conte or other better alternatives when Emery got sacked but instead got a manager who has zero top flight management simply because of our owners who has zero knowledge of the game and whom are easily hoodwinked by some lame power point presentations rather than real credentials. We're now Social Media FC that is more about lame PRs and good vibes rather than being serious about hunting for honors. If Arteta was at a serious footballing club like RM he would've been sacked 5 times over by now already with the amount of money spent and time given. But who cares as long about trophies as long as our Instagram followers keep increasing right ?

 

[HattoriHanzo]

Looking at how we've bottled the last 2 seasons despite having very good luck with injuries and now about to do so this season again with injuries finally hitting us you seriously think we are getting anywhere forward with Arteta in charge? We're already going backwards at this stage of the season compared to the last. 7 points behind Liverpool and 5 points behind City already and it's not even Christmas yet ffs. Also we're behind Forest and level with Villa lol.

After 5 seasons and over 200 games if you're still failing to see Arteta's not the one to bring us to the next level with his poor transfer recruitments and terrible in-game management as well as terrible negative football being played then you're simply simping for the sake of it. He is a mediocre manager simple as that. If Wenger was given the same amount of money and resources that Teta is afforded he would've won the title at least twice already.

We could've gotten Conte or other better alternatives when Emery got sacked but instead got a manager who has zero top flight management simply because of our owners who has zero knowledge of the game and whom are easily hoodwinked by some lame power point presentations rather than real credentials. We're now Social Media FC that is more about lame PRs and good vibes rather than being serious about hunting for honors. If Arteta was at a serious footballing club like RM he would've been sacked 5 times over by now already with the amount of money spent and time given. But who cares as long about trophies as long as our Instagram followers keep increasing right ?

We didn't have very good luck with injuries.
In season 2022/23 we lost both Saliba and Tomiyasu in March and then collapsed.
It was better last season, but we were without Partey and Timber basically the whole season.

You must be joking about Conte.
He would have left scorched earth behind him.

 

[scytheavatar]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1849501420560826540

likely this guy will take edu role for time being until club decide who they gonna hire. i'm sure arsenal job gonna be exciting for many well known directors.

He is a lawyer, not a football guy. He is there to negotiate contracts rather than to decide stuff like if it makes sense to pay 100 million for Gyokeres.

 

[Yousif Arsenal]

He is a lawyer, not a football guy. He is there to negotiate contracts rather than to decide stuff like if it makes sense to pay 100 million for Gyokeres.

there alot of people working behind the scene about transfers not one person.