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Am I misunderstanding the word agenda? I thought it was just a things to be discussed? Like football player and their pros and cons being discussed on football forum?
I don't know what you mean, have a feeling Auba will score and then Laca off the bench will get one too. 0-2 victory.
Agenda means male or female.Am I misunderstanding the word agenda? I thought it was just a things to be discussed? Like football player and their pros and cons being discussed on football forum?
Agenda means male or female.
Can't accuse me of prejudice as i identify as a tree.Only 2?
Agenda means male or female.
By the way are we just gonna ignore that with Lacazette it isn't even just about the goals and no just focusing on the games he started doesn't wash with me, it is possible to score off the bench. But regardless, he's terrible as an outlet. He's not a great player for transitions. He can't be a target man. I think his link up play is hugely overrated at at times he hogs onto the ball and makes a lot of poor decisions anyways. So in these away games where he isn't scoring he usually isn't even offering the team much anyways. Also in the 3-2 defeat to Chelsea he came off the bench, did his usual hogging onto the ball because he doesn't have the pace or strength to do anything worthwhile, ends up losing possession and Chelsea score the winner. But because he didn't start I guess we should just ignore this and pretend it never happened.
He's a £55 million striker, should we not expect him to offer anything coming off the bench? Giroud used to always get goals as a sub. Even still 4 goals in 12 starts is still quite mediocre. Auba has matched that in 5 starts this season, that's under half of the starts Laca had in away games last season. Not only that but Auba is providing constant movement and constant threat in behind which is vital for away games. Imaging how much more difficult it is for the opposition defence knowing Auba is ready to pounce than with Laca as the main CF. In one instance the CB's can't really push up or play a high line because they'll get caught out, in the other they don't have to worry too much as Laca usually does his best work in and around the box, even more so when the team he's playing for is dominating the opposition and pinning them back. In away games it's quite rare that we'll be as dominant, even less so with the style we're playing nowadays. You need a striker like Auba more than someone like Laca. 4 goals in 5 starts this season is evidence enough. Laca is a great back up striker/support striker in a 2. He'll never be a great lone striker. People just have to accept this.
The last couple of pages there's been a lot of semantics and a lot of straw clutching with him. There's a reason Mourinho gave such a damning verdict of him a couple of years ago. This is a man who's worked with Drogba as his CF, with Costa, Milito, Higuain, Benzema, Lukaku. I think he knows what makes a good CF. There's a reason why despite knowing about him for years when we could have got him a lot cheaper, Wenger never signed him before we did and we all know the last few years there's been some disputes about what was a Wenger signing and what wasn't. Why didn't we go for him the year before after the Vardy bid failed? And there's a reason why he's very rarely called up for France. Certainly not in the serious games. While everyone's favourite whipping boy Giroud is first choice.
Hadn't seen that post mate. It really is a good one. Should kill most of the arguments of the Laca agenda band.A few weeks ago I posted the post below in this thread. I was hoping it would atleast move the debate further along. Obviously I was wrong and we are back to debating why Laca only scored 4 away goals last season.
Mourinho didn't actually criticise Lacazette though, it was an "unamed source" in the press which could've been anyone at the club. They did the same thing the year before when they told Sky that they didn't go for Vardy because they thought Rashford was better.
Also let’s not forget Mourinho sanctioned a move for Lukaku who scored a grand total of one more league goal than Lacazette the last two seasons despite costing almost twice as much.
Fwiw I don’t think he’s a top player and probably wasn’t worth 50M but he’s still really good in a lot of aspects.
He’s far from the problem in this team, I think he opens up a lot of space for Auba and although he’s a bit inconsistent on his day he can boss a game.
53 million euros is not that much in current market for a proven striker?
Atletico transfer ban affecting your evaluation? How is Morata working out at 56 million euros?
1st season in LaLiga point per 156 minutes, current season point per 351 minutes (according to Transfermarkt).
I mean Morata is even worse and has no place being called a top striker. We’ve struggled for goals massively this year and he’s a big part of the reason.
In terms of the best strikers I’d say Laca isn’t at that level either.
Morata has the problem that he hasn't proved himself anywhere basically as a starter.
Yeah, I understand. How do you view Firmino? Is he at that level?
From what I have seen in stats it seems Lacazette is very close to him. Only the defensive side I'm not sure about. Would be great is someone had comparison of that from last season. Laca has work-rate too.
I don’t think Firmino is a striker, he’s essentially a number 10 in Liverpool’s system while Salah and Mane are pushed up almost as wide strikers.
Laca falls well short of Firmino creatively for me.