pigge
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Player:Martinelli
Nice, trying to insult me when you lost the argument.
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Alexandre Lacazette: Laca the Net
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Player:Martinelli
Mark Tobias
Mr. Agreeable
No I am not getting offended by the term, I am asking what it is. Can you not read?Wait, you're getting offended by the term?
He's scored against City, Tottenham, United, Chelsea, Liverpool now. That's all of the top 6 except us
That is clutch.
Lidl_Reed
Wants a new name
Okay, clutch is him scoring and performing in every game against the top 6.
Mark Tobias
Mr. Agreeable
What ever helps you sleep at night buddy.
Mark Tobias
Mr. Agreeable
Where does this term come from? Excuse my ignorance but have never heard this being used before.
Lidl_Reed
Wants a new name
I have no idea, I only know the term because people my age use it a lot
pigge
#Pigge #Equality
Player:Martinelli
Aubameyang should ofcourse score the sitters and have been below his standard this season so far, still scoring 75% more goals than laca though. Auba har several world class seasons in a row before this one though.
You were comparing him to Giroud though, not Aubameyang.
The fact is that when Lacazette started out last season, the team played a 3421 and the 2 behind him were changing literally every game. Can't expect him to develop an understanding with his teammates when the manager is chopping and changing from week to week. Once Aubameyang came, the Alexis situation had been resolved and the team was a bit more settled. Lacazette clearly benefitted too, considering how much better he looked when he returned from his injury.
Lidl_Reed
Wants a new name
Lacazette has really improved at Arsenal. I'm not sure how many of you saw him at Lyon before he came here, but he was a poacher more than a pure striker then. His hold up play was good, but not great, a lot of his goals were penalties, and his contributions in terms of attacking build up were miles away from what we see now.
Furious
Emery Gone, Telly Back On
So what if Lacazette was scoring 30-40 before he came here? What do you expect, both him and Auba to score 30-40 goals here as well? They're not Messi and Suarez, and the rest of our team isn't at the level of Barcelona.
You cannot expect both to get the ridiculous numbers here as well. At Dortmund and Lyon they were the both the main men, here they have to share the duty. Laca scoring important goals against the big teams while Auba puts up exceptional numbers. Pretty great mix.
If Auba doesn't score, he offers very little, while Laca still offers great link up play.
It's pretty self-explanatory. As for your Giroud comparison, throw that in the bin and pretend you never said it.
Sniper Mik
Not a Closet Sp**s Fan
Since becoming a regular player for Lyon, he averaged around 21 goals per season. Without the injury he suffered he probably would have scored 20 last season. Similar rate this season as well.
Furious
Emery Gone, Telly Back On
He was a kid back then and wasn't a striker. Mainly used as a winger until the 13-14 season.
He averaged more than that after that season, like 25+?
Think 20 goals per season here is a good ratio for Laca. Providing he continues his good overall play, and Auba is the main goalscorer.
Mark Tobias
Mr. Agreeable
@pigge this is why I question your definition of World Class.
For me a world class player offers more than just goals. There are times when you lead the game and you don't need goals but to absorb an onslaught from the opposition. A modern striker can adapt his game to be more involved in the midfield where required. Something Auba isn't as capable of.
Sniper Mik
Not a Closet Sp**s Fan
I agree. He is being used in a different role here. More of a provider than he was at Lyon because of Aubemeyang. 20 goals + 10-12 assists would be a brilliant return.
Mark Tobias
Mr. Agreeable
There you go.
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Player:Martinelli
People are twisting my words. Me bringing up Giroud was not to compare him and laca as players. It was an example to show that just because a player gets subbed doesnt mean he can't score goals. If giroud can do it, surely we should at least expect the same of laca. Nothing more, i thought it was obvious. My mistake though.
I never said, nor do i think that lacazette is not a very valuable player that makes us better. He clearly makes us a better team.
I said, for him to be a worldclass player for me, he needs to score more goals. Then everyone said that a striker does not need to score goals if he is good at link up play to be worldclass. And i don't agree with that.
I think you need to put up a decent amount of goals. And i said around 20 goals would make it okay, like i stated earlier.
As for a player offering more than goals to be world class, i disagree. If you are scoring enough goals you can be a worldclass player for me.
I never said, nor do i think that lacazette is not a very valuable player that makes us better. He clearly makes us a better team.
I said, for him to be a worldclass player for me, he needs to score more goals. Then everyone said that a striker does not need to score goals if he is good at link up play to be worldclass. And i don't agree with that.
I think you need to put up a decent amount of goals. And i said around 20 goals would make it okay, like i stated earlier.
As for a player offering more than goals to be world class, i disagree. If you are scoring enough goals you can be a worldclass player for me.
RacingPhoton
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Accept your second statement. A player who scores a lots of goals(around 25 in a season) is world class. No argument.
But the first statement needs refinement. That is what myself and many of the other members are arguing about. Just because the numbers are not huge, it doesn't mean he is not world-class. If you are comparing with Giroud, please find the opponent teams and the circumstances in which Giroud scored goals and Laca scored goals. Giroud, whenever he played he played as a lone striker. Laca mostly played with Auba. Even though Auba was said to be playing on the wing, he was always there to receive the ball in the box at a much better position. Most of the times, it always made sense for Laca to pass the ball to Auba rather than go for the shot himself. That doesn't mean that Laca is not capable of crunching the numbers. He can. He raked those numbers in Lyon. Here, he just adapted his game for his team-mates. That makes him world-class.
And please stop comparing him with Giroud - The man who wasted time celebrating his equalizer against ****ing Bournemouth because he practiced the scorpion kick celebration the previous night.
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I see a lot of similarities with Lacazette and Giroud. Great players!
say yes
forum master baiter
Lukaku benched, Morata sold.
Blimey.
Blimey.
Lidl_Reed
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Laca doesn't go on 15 match droughts in title winning seasons letting Leicester win the title after Welbeck won it for us
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