Alexis Sanchez

[outlawz]

Nasri lacked penetration and was way too ineffective. He was all show and little substance. Saka is the polar opposite who is all substance with little panache.

If you look at all the AM/WFs we had under Wenger. Nasri is probably bottom three for me. His final season was quality, though.

 

[db10_therza]

Saka takes pens and closes his eyes and blasts the ball hoping to get a deflection, this is apples and oranges.

I’m walking away from this conversation. You’re better than this.

 

[Macho]

I’m walking away from this conversation. You’re better than this.

I was being serious too, Saka is one of the driest fowards around and the way he gets begged just does my nut. Tired of it.

 

[Dokaka]

Nasri lacked penetration and was way too ineffective. He was all show and little substance. Saka is the polar opposite who is all substance with little panache.

If you look at all the AM/WFs we had under Wenger. Nasri is probably bottom three for me. His final season was quality, though.

Yeah one of the main criticisms I remember reading on here back then was Nasri always passing backwards etc. Very clean and tidy on the ball but very rarely created anything. Conservative passer, weirdly ineffective dribbler considering his technical ability.

Very similar to Grealish really, but worse if comparing both at their best.

 

[db10_therza]

btw I literally just noticed we’re having a Saka vs Nasri debate on the Sanchez thread

This may be my doing…

 

[Riou]

Nasri was quality, but similar level to Ljungberg for me.

Not there for me with the Pires' and Silva's, who they played the Robin to their Batman in their respective teams.

 

[Let's play Aubamawang]

Auba was a WC finisher.

Robben, Ribery, Bale, Hazard etc were WC from that era, I’ll put Sanchez a level below.

You say Sanchez wasn't world class, but he carried the team far more than Auba did and he also did the same for Chile.

While he wasn't the most clinical player, he could be relied on when it mattered and he scored a lot of memorable goals.

 

[ArsenesCoatMaker]

wtf are you looking at in his career that is screaming world class?!? He had 4 goals and 8 assists in the PL in three years in Man City ffs

Saka would get crucified if he returned that in one season let alone 3.

Wut he had way more than that with 5 goals and 9 assists in the PL in year 1 for instance. 8 goals and 11 assists in the PL and CL in his 3rd season. Instrumental in those 2 league wins too

Edit I've just realised you cherry picked his final 3 seasons when he made a total of 22 starts and even then ignoring an extra goal and assist in the CL. 4 goals and 8 assists off 22 starts is hardly poor neither is 5 goals and 9 assists off the 27 starts he had in that period

 

[db10_therza]

Wut he had way more than that with 5 goals and 9 assists in the PL in year 1 for instance. 8 goals and 11 assists in the PL and CL in his 3rd season. Instrumental in those 2 league wins too

Edit I've just realised you cherry picked his final 3 seasons when he made a total of 22 starts and even then ignoring an extra goal and assist in the CL. 4 goals and 8 assists off 22 starts is hardly poor neither is 5 goals and 9 assists off the 27 starts he had in that period

Yeah my bad it was late and the site i looked at for stats was showing the last 3 years for some reason.

Having looked at them more thoroughly though my point stands.

The argument here isn’t that “he was bad” - I’ve very very clearly stated that he was a good player. The argument is whether he was world class or not. Best season at city was 5 goals 9 assists (again PL only) and that was in a team that scored 93 goals.

Good player. Not world class. Not for me anyway you guys can call him whatever you want.

 

[Riou]

You say Sanchez wasn't world class, but he carried the team far more than Auba did and he also did the same for Chile.

While he wasn't the most clinical player, he could be relied on when it mattered and he scored a lot of memorable goals.

I love how if we were winning comfortably in a match and got a late penalty, Sanchez would probably miss it.

But if we were drawing, you just knew he's scoring a last minute Paneka ffs

 

[Sulosky]

Nasri was quality, but similar level to Ljungberg for me.

Yeah I can see that..

 

[ArsenesCoatMaker]

Yeah my bad it was late and the site i looked at for stats was showing the last 3 years for some reason.

Having looked at them more thoroughly though my point stands.

The argument here isn’t that “he was bad” - I’ve very very clearly stated that he was a good player. The argument is whether he was world class or not. Best season at city was 5 goals 9 assists (again PL only) and that was in a team that scored 93 goals.

Good player. Not world class. Not for me anyway you guys can call him whatever you want.

Yea probably not truly world class. He looked like it in 10/11 though and I think he would have had a higher peak as our number 10 if he stayed when Cesc left. I think we all had PTSD when we lost Cesc, Nasri and RVP in the space of 2 seasons.

Goals/assists aside I thought Nasri had some Iniesta lite type control of games with his build up play

 

[db10_therza]

Yea probably not truly world class. He looked like it in 10/11 though and I think he would have had a higher peak as our number 10 if he stayed when Cesc left. I think we all had PTSD when we lost Cesc, Nasri and RVP in the space of 2 seasons.

Goals/assists aside I thought Nasri had some Iniesta lite type control of games with his build up play

Yeah this is where I stand really. The only real world class Wenger emirates era players for me are Cesc, RvP, Sanchez, Özil and Auba. Nasri is just a tier below these guys.