Andrea Berta Take Us To The Title

[Aubamabludclat94]

I called this at the start of the summer with Berta. As someone who does negotiating as a career, often negotiating with people who earn like half a million a year at times (big egos, top of their field) I was concerned that his approach will rub people the wrong way. You’re dealing with egos, you’re dealing with difficult agents, stubborn presidents, and players who want to feel wanted. I had a theory Berta pissed off the Sporting president last summer and had things been done differently, we wouldn’t have gotten a fat Gyokeres without a pre season.

Then you look at Monga and how much we dithered there. The warning signs were there.

There’s theories that really Rogers was there for the taking and could have been secured earlier. But again we dithered around, let the Andersen fee increase their demands, don’t raise the offer, pissed off the club, probably made the player feel unwanted to the point that when Chelsea came in it sounded like he was totally all in for them and wasn’t exactly gonna wait around for us.

Arsenal vision podcast the other day reminded listeners that they had an A. Madrid specialist on when we first acquired Berta and he mentioned that the president (or someone similar) did most of the negotiations there and it wasn’t the main focus of Berta. That doesn’t surprise me in the slightest.

The article by the athletic essentially alluded to as much. His methods weren’t very popular with some of the high ranking individuals in the other organizations. It is what it is, he could pull off a mastertroke in the winter and he looks like a genius for not spending money on the rest of the trash out there

 

[Rasmi]

The article by the athletic essentially alluded to as much. His methods weren’t very popular with some of the high ranking individuals in the other organizations. It is what it is, he could pull off a mastertroke in the winter and he looks like a genius for not spending money on the rest of the trash out there

His method works on a small club with not a lot of money. But they make zero sense for Arsenal. I also find them classless with talking to several players in same position and agreeing deals with them convincing them you want them only to choose one. He’s brought here to bring elite players in. Not wheel and deal

 

[boonthegoon]

Transfers are one part of Arteta's job. Transfers are the primary part of Berta's job. Surprising some people think Arteta has to take more of the blame for this window.

 

[OnlyOne]

Sounds like Arteta is very satisfied and Im not surprised. He asked for ambition and we showed it, did we pull it off? No. But the intention was there and sometimes that’s all you can ask for.

 

[Tir Na Nog]

Cant wait till we cash in xAmbition in a tight title deciding game.

 

[MikelHadADream]

Sensational posting from @Dj_sds - @Red London @sdotzdot. Absolutely agree with everything said.

 

[Mrs Bergkamp]

Berta might not be here next summer as there's too much noise about this window. If the Quintero twins and Bart work out, we might be thanking him after we sack him.

 

[Xln]

Wonder if Berta’s wife is going to rip Arteta on social media the way Jason Ayto’s did after he left

Wait what did she say? I can't find it

 

[field442]

Quite funny people think Berta will be let go of. We just won the league and are favourites again mainly because of the strength of our squad. We had our biggest total sales since 2018 and biggest ever individual sale.

We don't tend to just hire and fire people in important positions at the drop of the hat. Raul got let go of because he was dodgy. Edu left for another job. Mislintat decided to leave because the club hierarchy changed. They aren't going to get rid of Berta because he couldn't get a couple of improbable signings over the line.

 

[Club1st]

Quite funny people think Berta will be let go of. We just won the league and are favourites again mainly because of the strength of our squad. We had our biggest total sales since 2018 and biggest ever individual sale.

We don't tend to just hire and fire people in important positions at the drop of the hat. Raul got let go of because he was dodgy. Edu left for another job. Mislintat decided to leave because the club hierarchy changed. They aren't going to get rid of Berta because he couldn't get a couple of improbable signings over the line.

I'd agree but the way we revamped the medical department has me thinking the strategic review of the summer transfer window will lead to more quesitons than satisfaction.

 

[A_G]

Wait what did she say? I can't find it

She deleted her account. It was something about how Arteta and the club didn’t let her husband work properly.

 

[DirtBox]

You just know this guy has a suitcase full of hooky DVDs and Roloxes

 

[boonthegoon]

A little too late.

 

[MartiSaka]

Cost us the first goal today but was ok after that.

 

[Mraven]

A little too late.

It’s never too late to upgrade on Gyokeres

 

[A_G]

A little too late.

Classic Berta

 

[Blood on the Tracks]

Take it for what it's worth as it's coming from an Atletico podcaster so I don't know if he has an axe to grind against Berta but he said Berta's primary skill was as a talent identifier for them.

Someone else did much of the negotiations there.

@Rex Caudillo is this accurate?

 

[teamsoutheast]

Think Mik wanted some more attackers - he has lost 4 and brought one from Belgium in. He will be frustrated. Don't blame the club for Vini, worth the gamble and I think it was a genuine effort. But the main problem was our dilly dallying around for Rogers early on, who was Mik's favoured target and who the club (and Rogers himself) thought they had sown up.

But we didn't "dilly-dally", Aston Villa moved the goal posts and changed the valuation based on Man City paying over £100m for Anderson and inflating the transfer market. We weren't willing to go that high for him, simple. At some point, clubs have to take a stand and be sensible financially.

 

[teamsoutheast]

I really don't understand what everyone is moaning about. We showed fantastic ambition in going for truly top class talent and they were also serioously considering joining us. Is this not what everyone wanted????

Is this not where we wanted the club to be??? What happened to all the talk about "raising your standards" and when we actually go and try and sign top class talent, our own fans get scared

We made some very good decisions in the market by signing Konsa and Bruno who are both top players in their relative positions. We signed a gem in Tzolis who does not look out of place and is a well deserved starter based on his form in pre-season. He got a nice assist against one of our main rivals in a high pressure game.

It would have been nice to get a top class LW but they really are scarce at the moment and we actually did try to go for the best on the market. We don't need squad fillers, we need talent that will provide competition.

All this Berta needs to be sacked talk is absolutely insane. Ridiculous stuff....

 

[ArsenesCoatMaker]

Take it for what it's worth as it's coming from an Atletico podcaster so I don't know if he has an axe to grind against Berta but he said Berta's primary skill was as a talent identifier for them.

Someone else did much of the negotiations there.

@Rex Caudillo is this accurate?

He uses agents initially to gauge interest and also sometimes to negotiate the fee with the club. With Alvarez he directly contacted the club and very likely agreed a deal in principle. He's meant to be a firm believer in not overspending, but in the past has overspent at Atletico when the manager/owner sanctioned it, the Joao Felix flop being most notable