Arsenal Finances

Discussion in 'Arsenal Talk' started by TheLoneFalcon, Sep 22, 2014.

  1. Flying Okapis

    Flying Okapis Well-Known Member

    I thought this also, I don't think anyone outside the club has any idea what we can and are willing to spend, people make educated guesses ie Swiss Ramble but they also flip flop and backtrack pretty damn quick.

    The issue I have with Swiss Ramble is its taken as gospel by everyone just because of who he is, right or wrong I dont know and he knows more than I do :lol:
     
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  2. Iceman10

    Iceman10 Well-Known Member

    It was AST. They have an incentive to create a drama and whinge every summer.

    https://arsenal-mania.com/forum/threads/arsenal-finances.27847/page-51#post-4873857
     
  3. bingobob

    bingobob Fan of Technicians Who Show Great Character

    The full 35m is added to the books even if the fee is spread, that's my understanding anyway.
     
  4. DanDare

    DanDare Emoji Merchant

    Don't think this was posted



    This article suggests it's an accounting issue and our season ticket delay (CL Vs EL) until after EL final means season ticket revenue isn't included

     
  5. OneAW!

    OneAW! Active Member

    We have always inflated our wage spend by adding image rights to wages which other clubs don't. Its to make it seem like we spend more than we do. So I wouldn't be surprised if the board would use other dodgy tricks to mislead the fanbase with regards to our actual financials.
     
  6. tap-in

    tap-in Nothing Wrong With Me

  7. Makingtrax

    Makingtrax Arséne Wenger once said "I will miss you"

    Wenger kept this club afloat during the difficult years of the stadium build. He hasn't been gone two years yet and were sliding downhill badly.
     
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  8. tap-in

    tap-in Nothing Wrong With Me

    Wenger finished 6th and failed to get CL, it may have been the first time for years but it was the beginning of the slide. On a positive note, Kroenke wont want to hold onto a business that is making a loss. We may have increased revenue ahead with kit sponsor etc but we are going to take another hit if we fail to get EL. We have to up our game or he sells.
     
  9. Makingtrax

    Makingtrax Arséne Wenger once said "I will miss you"

    Wenger only dropped out of the top 4 with the full weight of the fans against him. That's what caused the slide.

    There's never been a manager or team that's sustained top 4 football with the sort of campaign against them that our fans organised after the 15/16 season.
     
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  10. DanDare

    DanDare Emoji Merchant

    Think we'll be selling some assets and recruiting cheaper options this summer. Nothing new for us.

    Sadly we've not got Wenger to help us. Hopefully we can make some good choices.
     
  11. Gooner416

    Gooner416 Well-Known Member



    Absolute disgrace if true.
     
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  12. Maybe

    Maybe Well-Known Member

    It was Wenger and Gazidis who set this club to be out of the top 4 for the next 5 years. Horrible transfers and contract problems created a mess that we are still trying to fix 3 years later and it will take us a year or two more to finish it.
    Wenger was lucky enough to always have one extra quality player who would keep him in the top 4 for the last decade, and once he lost Cazorla there was nobody to save him. All of his late transfer were failures which were tied to the club for 5 years.
    It's absolutely mad that you are putting this **** on fans
     
  13. 14Henry

    14Henry Well-Known Member

    We have to remember that Wenger finished 4th when the top 4 was exclusive.

    Now the smaller clubs have more money and are no longer feeder clubs to the big boys things have changed.

    You only have to look at the gaps between 4th and 5th all those years back. Nothing like that now. Smaller clubs have gotten more competitive and Arsenal has gotten less competitive.

    You could list 20 signings that the likes of Wolves and Leciester made that improved them. Those were players we were overlooking. Why? Because we thought we were above them.
     
  14. GDeep™

    GDeep™ Wrong, But Rarely

    Most of the Wolves signings are due to their ownership structure allowing Mendes to flood his players in. While Leicester is mainly down to top scouting.

    What has really stagnated us in recent has been poor buying and selling.
     
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  15. 14Henry

    14Henry Well-Known Member

    Yeah but wolves have been able to offer those player a platform to say. Look this club is on an upward trajectory. Go enjoy 2 or 3 years and move on after. For a young player 20/21/22 to be going to a club that is on the up with less pressure and guaranteed playing time its attractive.

    Leciester scouting seems 2nd to none.

    There are players out there and we need to be scouting the market that your mid table teams are scouting.

    What's the point pretending to be interested in Grealish/Maddison/Upamencano. Those players are waiting to make a big step up. Like Champions league. Not to be going to a team in 9th that really is showing no signs of rising to the top all the opposite.
     
  16. Makingtrax

    Makingtrax Arséne Wenger once said "I will miss you"

    Buying and selling is an art, as important as any manager. Liverpool and Leicester are leading the way. We're bottom of the class.
     
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  17. GDeep™

    GDeep™ Wrong, But Rarely

    Wenger was great at it.
     
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  18. Makingtrax

    Makingtrax Arséne Wenger once said "I will miss you"

    How was the top 4 exclusive? Between 2004 and 2013 we were bottom half of the table spenders. And 2013 2018 we climbed to 5th most expensive squad.

    The top 3 United, City and Chelsea were exclusive, they spent way more than any of other teams. How we kept in there company is down to Arsène. It's laughable but a testimony to his greatness that fans expected him to actually beat them to the title.
     
  19. 14Henry

    14Henry Well-Known Member

    In his first 10 years yes. In his last 10-12 no.
     
  20. 14Henry

    14Henry Well-Known Member

    Sp**s weren't challengers for top 4. Teams like Wolves and Leciester were nowhere to be seen. A team just promoted fighting for it. No chance.

    Now the premier league top 4-7 is more open than it ever has been.
     

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