Flamini was past his best by then. That's in addition to Rosicknote and Arteta who you cannot rely on. Not mention Wilshere, who had already missed most of the previous season and got injured again in pre-season.
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Arsenal's True Spending Position: There is no top 6
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truth_hurts
but Holding’s hair transplant was painless
Jury is out on Pepe, but our recent transfer business has actually been good.
We just need to hope that we strike gold on at least a couple of Saliba, Guendouzi, Saka, Nelson, Martinelli, ESR or Nketiah.
We just need to hope that we strike gold on at least a couple of Saliba, Guendouzi, Saka, Nelson, Martinelli, ESR or Nketiah.
truth_hurts
but Holding’s hair transplant was painless
Well there is. Barring the Leicester anomaly, only 6 teams have regular frequented the top 4 over the past 5 - 10 years or just missed out.
These 6 clubs have benefitted from European money as a result.
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Country: England
Player:Saliba
What I'm saying is that has clearly changed. Everton and Leicester are climbing the ladder, Everton even overtaking Sp**s for spending, and with good managers, early indications are that there is a top 8 race.
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Country: England
Player:Saliba
That's why he was back up.
GoonerJay24
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Arteta was injured that season but before he was highly reliable and underrated
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truth_hurts
but Holding’s hair transplant was painless
There may well be, but last year is the only time in my memory that we have finished below 6th in The Premier League and I can't remember the last time Everton finished above us.
I expect us to stay ahead of both as long as we can continue to attract players like Aubameyang and Partey.
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Country: England
Player:Saliba
That's only because we had Wenger, 2005-2014 we should have been a lot lower according to our spend.
truth_hurts
but Holding’s hair transplant was painless
I do get your point, but I feel we must have a top 6 most expensive squad. We also spent well in the period that you are referring to: 11m for Cech, 15m for Santiago, 12m for Giroud and 30m was incredible business.
Before this season, Everton spent 120m on Iwobi, Walcott and Siggurdson.
Net spend doesn't always correlate to how strong your squad is.
Manberg
Predator
No premier league trophy since 2004 has been a failure of Wenger. We had a talented squad which kept underachieving. Net spend tells me nothing. The players you sell are the players you have to want to sell. Money that was spent was mixed. Some good signings but a lot of duds in between which should have been avoided. Too many repeated failures.
£72m on Pepe was a failure of Raul.
£72m on Pepe was a failure of Raul.
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Country: England
Player:Saliba
Every team makes some good buys, every team makes some poor buys, every team has one maybe two home grown boys that have come through the academy . . it all comes out in the wash.
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- #32
Country: England
Player:Saliba
This thread isn't about Wenger or net spend mate, it's about the club's overall investment over several years to arrive at a squad.
We are where we are . . a fair way behind City, United, Chelsea and Liverpool and in a mid spending bunch containing Sp**s, Everton, and Leicester. A top 8. Or mid 4 depending how you want to view it.
Manberg
Predator
Your chart simply tells me that we are one of the highest spending clubs in Europe, and we've been outperformed by clubs spending a lot less than us.
Country: Scotland
Law of diminishing returns.
Net spend is still important.
If Arsenal spend 50m on one player and sell nobody but Liverpool sell a 50m player and spend 100m their squad costs more but net spend is the same. Are Liverpool better off because they sold or are Arsenal better off because they retained a 50m player?
There are so many variables to boil it down just to one.
Net spend is still important.
If Arsenal spend 50m on one player and sell nobody but Liverpool sell a 50m player and spend 100m their squad costs more but net spend is the same. Are Liverpool better off because they sold or are Arsenal better off because they retained a 50m player?
There are so many variables to boil it down just to one.
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Country: England
Player:Saliba
Yes, 5th in the EPL. And looking at the history of the EPL and what clubs have done in the past in that ball park of spending, what are you expecting us to acheive?
Manberg
Predator
More spending than Bayern Munich, not nearly as competitive or successful
https://www.transfermarkt.com/vergl...-arsenal-afc/vereinsvergleich/statistik/27_11
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- #37
Country: England
Player:Saliba
What? This is about the straight cost of all 25 players in the squad. You couldn't get a fairer comparison.
You can only get a more expensive squad by one of 4 methods, the owner forks out of his own pocket, the club uses some of its revenues from gates, TV etc, it borrows, or it does some clever dealing by buying cheaper players and selling them at a profit. The above chart shows the results of all those investments in the entire team lumped in one figure.
Net spend in any one year only concerns a few players and involves players actually leaving the squad.
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Country: England
Player:Saliba
Bayern Munich aren't in our league. The German league is run very differently. And you didn't answer my question.
Manberg
Predator
We can buy players from Germany too. Why can we not compare our spending to clubs from other leagues? How do they get to spend far less yet be more competitive? I don't mean competitive in their domestic leagues I mean a more competitive side (better side with better players ) in a head to head match.
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Country: England
Player:Saliba
They dominate German football and have their pick of the best young talent. We're over paying for the players coming to the UK, it's a whole different set up.
