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Arteta’s Transfer Targets: Summer 2024

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drippin

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Like your list Drippin, and it’s hard to argue with any of it, it’s very similar to what I’d do.

Only thing I’d say is I don’t think that Arsenal will spend over €100m on another 2 defenders this summer mind you. I think they might buy another versatile defender in the €40m range, and for that reason I think Diomande might be too expensive, and I’m not sure Frimpong as an Arteta type full back, so I’m not sure who we’d target here.

Other than that i think the list as well as being your wish list is actually quite realistic as well.
Not sure what the other options for defenders are that have been rumoured. Inacio from Sporting was rumoured and he has a 70 million euros release clause. Maybe he is the "Timber" for the inverted LB role, he is left-footed. But Kiwior is starting to look like Arsenal level player so a LCB is not needed. Arteta played Saliba as LCB this season so there's that too.

Frimpong has been in the rumours for quite a long time I think. I wouldn't put it past Arteta for wanting different kind of options, for different opposition and different game situations. Frimpong is short, but the whole squad is pretty tall at this point so it's not a big deal. He is such a bargain that I wanted to include him as defensive depth is needed. He is a unique player with his speed, maybe only Davies and Hakimi are similar.

The problem with the defenders is that both Zinchenko and Tomiyasu are very injury-prone. So that area requires strengthening. But maybe one is deemed enough, with Timber back. Also with a better midfield so Rice can play CB in extreme emergency.
 

benjamin86

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Doginelli resorted to bench appearances vs tired legs as things should stand. :signing: Imagine we had Merse or Overmars in that space Nelli has, they didn't need all these conditions to thrive like Nelli is because the aforementioned two had great technical ability base and could run and move their body at the same time, Nelli cannot run with the ball and change positions, as you see've many times, he has to stop with the ball then change positions, lacks that swiftness in his waists.
Merson wouldn't be a premiership player today.
 

Sapient Hawk

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I made my "annual" transfer/squad planning post. I like to do it so I get more solid thinking, and estimation what is possible. This reinforced my thinking that Arsenal shouldn't buy Osimhen for example, who likely costs 100-120 million pounds as the release clause isn't totally public I think?

Gyokeres might be more affordable, more durable, and the "in-between" option though for Zirkzee and Osimhen, but the league isn't that good. I haven't included him here as he also seems to expensive for my thinking, but we'll see about the funds available. The enticing thing about Gyokeres is his durability like Toney's, he is two years younger than him, and has great experience from Championship and England already. I do think I would rather Gyokeres than Zirkzee, as a more experienced striker would be important for instant effect for challenging.

If you want to buy a player without triggering the clause, they usually cost more than the clause is. Same thinking is used below, where I have put 10 million euros more to the estimated fee for players who have a release clause. Not with Diomande though, as he is inexperienced and they make a huge profit in a short time frame, and he is from a worse league.

My thinking here is that when you look at the players needed, and available next summer, there are amazing deals possible. All of Frimpong, Zubimendi, Williams and Zirkzee are worth or will likely develop to a more expensive players than their price. Let's say they will easily be like 20 million euros more worth, so that makes it 80 million euros saved, and possibly more. The maximum worth that Osimhen will likely be is 150 million euros. So that's like let's say 20-30million euros saved, but he is like double more expensive. And he has also the risk of becoming injury-prone in EPL with his history, so the risk is bigger in that sense.

Arsenal has Havertz, Jesus and Trossard for false 9 and it has worked pretty well. I'd rather want Arsenal to complete the squad so injuries won't affect trophy challenges as much, than use too much money on a striker. But it all depends on the funds. It's better to buy Zirkzee & Frimpong/Williams in my opinion for the money that Osimhen would cost. These are great deals which Arsenal should take advantage of. Osimhen's wage would also be maybe equal, or more, to those two players combined.

The interesting thing is that after sales, and not even counting ESR and Patino possible sales, the spend would be like 160-190 million euros. I think that's doable with UCL money and other revenue additions, after January window with no spend.

This squad would have 24 players, with 7 HG players. Then you could keep ESR or Patino, to have a complete 25 player squad with 8 HG players. And sell the other. The new players might have less wages than the players who leave, as Elneny and Cedric also leave. I'm not 100% sure about the wages or estimations, but about so.

I like the look of this line-up! Frimpong is an amazing deal, and would be nice to have more depth in defence, and a different kind of option to use.

New players: GK 10-30 million euros, 70k

Diomande 80 million euros, 80k

Frimpong 50 million euros, 100k

Zubimendi 70 million euros, 150k

Williams 60 million euros, 150k

Zirkzee/Toney/Sesko 50-70 million euros, 150k/250k

TOTAL: 320-340 million euros, 700k-800k per week


Selling: Ramsdale 50 million euros, 100k

Nketiah 40 million euros, 100k

Partey 15 million euros, 200k

Sambi 15 million euros, 70k

Nelson 15 million euros, 80k

Tavares 10 million euros, 70k

Tierney 5 million euros, 100k

TOTAL: 150 million euros, 720k per week

ESR? Patino?


Leaving: Elneny, 70k

Cedric, 70k

Total: 140k


Squad: GK: Raya, GK, Hein?

LB: Timber, Zinchenko

RB: White, Frimpong, Tomiyasu

LCB: Gabriel, Kiwior

RCB: Saliba, Diomande

DMF: Zubimendi, Jorginho

LCM: Rice, Trossard

RCM: Ødegaard, Vieira

LW: Martinelli, Williams

RW: Saka, Jesus

ST: Zirkzee/Toney/Sesko, Havertz


HG: Raya, Hein?, White, Saliba, Rice, Martinelli, Saka, ESR?, Patino?

Not sure which tag this piece of fiction should appropriately be placed under.
 

drippin

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Not sure which tag this piece of fiction should appropriately be placed under.
What do you disagree with?

Like I said, it's just to make my thoughts clearer of what might be possible to do in the next window.
 

Sapient Hawk

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What do you disagree with?

Like I said, it's just to make my thoughts clearer of what might be possible to do in the next window.

Didn't disagree with any of your incomings or outgoings.

The only thing I found to be unrealistic was the financial outlay spent on that impressive list of incomings.

Nor will we recoup anything remotely close to what you propose for our outgoing players.
 

drippin

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Didn't disagree with any of your incomings or outgoings.

The only thing I found to be unrealistic was the financial outlay spent on that impressive list of incomings.

Nor will we recoup anything remotely close to what you propose for our outgoing players.
Sure. It's in part my wishlist. You can drop someone like Frimpong, or switch Diomande to a cheaper defender if the funds don't allow it.

After a January with no incomings, and UCL money and new sponsors etc., I just put my extreme hopes for a transfer window up.

One of the reasons was that people start to think Osimhen and his wages might not be very realistic with all the other needs.

Btw. I think Rasmi said that my suggested squad is big. Well this season Arsenal has 25 players...
 

Fallout

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Truthfully I'm not super excited by any of the striker prospects this summer

What if instead we bought a top left winger and experimented with Martinelli to striker? To a certain degree Martinelli at LW has become a bit stale and he does have some interesting striker attributes

Unlikely scenario for sure but I'd be more interested in that than buying some over-expensive striker who is either unproven at our level or too old to be a worthwhile investment
 

Tir Na Nog

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None of these names get me too excited. Think of the three names Orny mentioned Ferguson has the bigger upside but will cost quite a lot and maybe at this stage in his development isn't someone who's guaranteed to get the goals. Zirkzee has a 1 in 4 scoring rate. Gyokeres has 31 goals and 11 assits but could he replicate that in the prem? It all seems a risk signing players based on what they do in Portugal.

Obviously Osimhen is the one but probably a difficult deal to do. He'd be instantly a match winner and a game changer with the guarantee of goals.
 

drippin

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Truthfully I'm not super excited by any of the striker prospects this summer

What if instead we bought a top left winger and experimented with Martinelli to striker? To a certain degree Martinelli at LW has become a bit stale and he does have some interesting striker attributes

Unlikely scenario for sure but I'd be more interested in that than buying some over-expensive striker who is either unproven at our level or too old to be a worthwhile investment
All the strikers that are rumoured are target players. Havertz will take Nketiah's place because of it.

Said since last summer that I think Arteta wants two target men in the attack in his squad. Martinelli isn’t one. And there is still Trossard who Arteta has played there over Martinelli.

What you suggest sounds to me like you would be fine going with Jesus, Havertz and Trossard as false 9's if you get a top winger instead of Williams for cheap.
 

Fallout

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All the strikers that are rumoured are target players. Havertz will take Nketiah's place because of it.

Said since last summer that I think Arteta wants two target men in the attack in his squad. Martinelli isn’t one. And there is still Trossard who Arteta has played there over Martinelli.

What you suggest sounds to me like you would be fine going with Jesus, Havertz and Trossard as false 9's if you get a top winger instead of Williams for cheap.
Havertz for games where we need a target man

Trossard for games where we need a connector / false 9

Martinelli for games where we need pace / let's just see what he can become there

I would move Jesus to LW and buy another LW as well

Best thing of all in that scenario is we have a ton of very versatile players so can chop and change as we like
 

Tir Na Nog

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I do think we should definitely sign that profile tho even if it's just to give us another option, I'm definitely not in the camp that we shouldn't sign any. At the very least it gives you an alternative and given the amount of crosses we put in it'd be nice to see someone capable of benefitting from them.

The only time it might become a problem if we signed a Zirkzee or a Gyokeres for a sizeable fee, they completely flop and then Jesus continues with his injury problems. Maybe Trossard becomes disgruntled with lack of chances too. But that's a lot of ifs, buts and maybes. I think we probably should just gamble on one.
 

SA Gunner

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Sesko is probably the best financial option for me and I’d do a deal for him. Similar to Havertz though so I’d understand if we do a deal for Zirkzee instead, which gives us the aerial presence in addition to the technicality on the ball.

Nico Williams, and a cut priced deal for Mudryk would also do.

I think we must back up and give serious competition to our key players. So for me do a deal for FDJ, Diomande and Onana.

FdJ, Onana, Diomande, Williams, Sesko/Zirkzee, Mudryk and we are golden.
 

drippin

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I do think we should definitely sign that profile tho even if it's just to give us another option, I'm definitely not in the camp that we shouldn't sign any. At the very least it gives you an alternative and given the amount of crosses we put in it'd be nice to see someone capable of benefitting from them.

The only time it might become a problem if we signed a Zirkzee or a Gyokeres for a sizeable fee, they completely flop and then Jesus continues with his injury problems. Maybe Trossard becomes disgruntled with lack of chances too. But that's a lot of ifs, buts and maybes. I think we probably should just gamble on one.
Zirkzee and Sesko are quite cheap options in current markets. They are so young for strikers, that even if they flop I think they will be worth a gamble for some club.

That's the good thing about buying young very talented players. Part of why Real is willing to take a risk buying Endrick types for huge money compared to experience.

Even if Sesko flops, he will be like 23-24 years old when sold. It's nothing for a striker. Chelsea also was able to recover a big part of the money they spent on Havertz because of it.
 

jones

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Yeah but the only established players available are Toney(not a good fit for me), Osimhen(almost certainly joining Chelsea) or Vlahovic (seems settled in Italy)

That leave Gyokeres, Sesko, Openda, Zirkzee, Ferguson and Gimenez.

I like Sesko but he’s still a little raw needs more time to cook. Zirkzee doesn’t seem like a goalscorer to me. Ferguson needs to work on his all-round game and Brighton would ask silly money.

It’s between Gyokeres, Gimenez are Openda. We might have no choice but to gamble on one and pay a few million more over the odds.
Openda is great but is this just a wishlist post or did we get linked with him? Leipzig paid over 40m for him last summer he'll cost north of 100m probably.
 

UpTheGunnerz

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Wtf why do people merchant about Mudryk now

I mean the boy has got my sympathies for the atrocities going on in his country but he is beyond washedustedfinished. He haven’t got the brain to cut it in the prem
 
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