Benjamin Šeško or Victor Gyokeres

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Batman

Hard on crime, soft on Stan

Country: USA

Player:Nwaneri
Come on Todd lad blow your load 🙏
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TakeChillPill

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I see your point but surely not worse than Zinchenko. Zinchenko has poor positioning, 1on1 defending, strength, and recovery pace.

Théo at worst has poor positioning and maybe not the best 1on1 defending. But his recovery pace and strength certainly covers that and his positioning more than Zinchenko.

Zinchenko is a weak midget with no pace and defensive awareness.
Basically he's not a LB.
 

SA Gunner

The butcher from Cape Town
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Country: South Africa
Hey @SA Gunner the source is irrelevant to the accounts and also you need to not get confused between installments and amortisation. They are similar but different for finance professionals/FFP.

Amortisation is essentially the same as depreciation but one is for intangible assets and the other is for tangible assets eg. car, laptop, machinery etc. But concepts work the same.

For amortisation you split the transfer fee over the contract length at signing (or maximum of 5 years if contract is longer). So for Sesko assume £55m fee - if 5 yr contract, the amortisation = 55/5 = £11m per year in the accounts if he signs on a 4 year contract its 55/4 = £13.75m amortisation per year in the accounts.

Installments are just the agreed payment terms between the clubs e.g. kroenke's tell Leipzig we'll pay in 3 installments e.g. £20m Y1, £20m Y2 & £15m Y3. If leipzig dont agree they'll just have to pay the release clause in one lump sum which will be £55m in Y1. But none of this effects the accounts or FFP, it just affects cashflow i.e. do i have to pay £20m now and rest later or £55m all now. But no affect on FFP measures.

Thanks mate, appreciate the clarity

I do understand the concepts of amortisation and instalments, and was using my example as a way of explaining how I thought the representation of the financial deal could be structured in line with FFP compliance.

It was too simple and off the mark however, and I’ve seen that now.
 

sakalacaxhaka

Active Member
Ok I didn't know that.
Is there a lot of point giving them?
The main reason Chelsea did it was to spread the fee.
So we could do it.
Tbh I think it sends out the wrong msg.
I can see the appeal for a player who may sit on the bench & not perform but would any serious pro want to be tied up for so long? 5 + 1 is surely long enough.
the reason for giving them is purely to entice the player into more of a safety of earnings (if they got injured etc.. they are still set for those wages for 8 years) big big risk for the club, but when you're in chelsea's shoes and you have nothing else to offer (poorly run club, no real european football, brand badly damaged and the big risk of points deductions) you have to resort to extreme measures to get the deals

I do not see us going down this route in the current regime, if a player is tempted to join another club for money over career then they are exactly the wrong type of player to join us, if everyone starts doing it then it's a different conversation, right now I can't see it changing
 

El Realista

The Mexican Rasmi

Country: Mexico

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the reason for giving them is purely to entice the player into more of a safety of earnings (if they got injured etc.. they are still set for those wages for 8 years) big big risk for the club, but when you're in chelsea's shoes and you have nothing else to offer (poorly run club, no real european football, brand badly damaged and the big risk of points deductions) you have to resort to extreme measures to get the deals

I do not see us going down this route in the current regime, if a player is tempted to join another club for money over career then they are exactly the wrong type of player to join us, if everyone starts doing it then it's a different conversation, right now I can't see it changing
Exactly, we shouldn't go that route and the best example is Mudric. Lots of red flags and actually Chelsea and player's love for money and faPme saved us.

Every player that have the option to choose between us and them at this moment if goes there is because of money or having 11 starting position secured or both.
 

Goonger

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Country: Scotland
Yes but sometimes agents just push players to another club just like the Mudryk saga.

I'd say it was more the club pushing Mudryk than the agent. The club job was to get the highest fee an the most favourable terms in terms of transfer fee and add ons, and Chelsea's offer was better than ours, and they pulled out all the stops promising friendly games etc.

Knowing Boehly he'd have offered weapons and men for the Ukrainian army and to broker peace terms with Putin.
 

The_Playmaker

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Without a release clause it enters but you paid this much for Hojlund territory. 55 million pounds is probably true market value.
 

Rex Caudillo

Viva la Starmer-ball

Country: Wales

Player:Nwaneri
But if teams trigger the RC then he needs to make a decision asap. He can't take longer than the RC expires if his team ask him to decide because they want to sell aren't it? Other way he would be facking them only because he doesn't want to decide.

Oh wait giant chancer Plettenberg has it wrong? Surely not.
 

sub_sub

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Agreed both playing time and money could sway him to Chelsea / Utd. Definitely not a given that he opts for us.
 
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