Benjamin Šeško

[OnlyOne]

Really appreciate the kind words everybody.

-OO

 

[Rex Stone]

Genuinely don’t know if there’s anyone in the game with a hit rate like @OnlyOneTrophy

Should enjoy him while he’s posting here for free. Never your girl, just your turn vibes.

 

[Barry]

He’s often compared to Isak but Isak at the same age hit 17 in a la liga season then followed it up with a disappointing 6 or something like that.

Difference is Isak looked better and I’d rather gamble on the player who has shown that he can score 17 at least once vs the guy who is averaging 13 per season. Šeško has a higher floor yeah, but when we’re assessing young attackers the ceiling is way more important than the floor.

I actually really wanted Isak here after that 17 goal session when we were linked... Classy player, even then.

For context on your point above though. Sesko scored 14 goals in 1500 minutes of football with Leipzig... Isak got 17 in nearly 2400 minutes in that season. That's Incredible and he hasn't dropped off that much this season given that Openda's numbers have plummeted as well.

Ceiling wise, Sesko has been giving those little clues that he could explode. He just looks so raw at the moment... He's a gamble and stylistically a bit dull but I don't care about the style side so much.

 

[Sanchez11]

Genuinely don’t know if there’s anyone in the game with a hit rate like @OnlyOneTrophy

Should enjoy him while he’s posting here for free. Never your girl, just your turn vibes.

Didn't he love Zirkzee?

 

[KrissKringle]

Didn't he love Zirkzee?

Weghorst and Zirkzee? That's enough to get him canceled.

 

[Sanchez11]

Weghorst and Zirkzee? That's enough to get him canceled.

Yes

 

[OnlyOne]

Yes

@Rasmi was the one who put me onto him. Zirzkee is really just last years Ekitike.

 

[The_Playmaker]

What I’d say wrt missing chances and over/underperforming xG when it comes to Šeško is that it’s not really that he misses chances for me. It’s more about him taking a low volume of shots and from a quite far distance (+17m on average). I believe this is also where his overperformance of xG comes from. Any shot taken outside of the box that results in a goal is pretty much a net +1 in xG overperformance. Šeško hits the ball well from distance as we all know and if you score a few screamers like that all of a sudden you’re vastly over perform your xG.

Not trying to make it out like it’s a bad thing to be able to shoot like he does, but it’s worth understanding that him overperforming xG might actually not mean that he’s a particularly good finisher in all situations. His accuracy is actually quite bad if you look at his shot on goal through shots ratio and compare it with other potential cf targets like Gyok, Watkins and Ekitike.

There is context though. Comparing his heat map with the names you just mentioned has him considerably further away from goal Even on his highlights he picks up the ball deeper and Openda is the one in the box. Even Opendas production has dipped significantly.

A leipzig side who took less shots than United and West Ham also took less shots than Union Berlin who only scored 35 goals. Leipzig have been shocking.

Sesko definitely has room to develop, but I wouldn't say he doesnt have a shoot on site policy. Quite the opposite. I just think he gets less opportunities to shoot. Does he create shots as well as an Ekitike? Probably not. But look at how Jesus creates shots. Means **** all if he cant shoot.

 

[blrgooner]

Extremely difficult. It's one of those things that usually comes natural and can't be taught. 'Fox in the box, sniffing out a goal, nose for a goal' whatever you want to call is a rare gift. It's the reason why players with this gift have been the most expensive in football.

Take Hojlund this season for example. He is in the box plenty of times but usually seems to be in the wrong place all the time. Auba the opposite, how many times was he just at the right place for a tap in? It's not luck, the best goal scorers consistently manage to position themselves where the ball ends up.

Ohh I completely agree. Being a Fox in the Box is something thats not trainable.
I actually just don`t think any of the strikers we are linked with are necessarily "Fox in the Box" though. Gyok may be the closest but I keep looking at his clips and the goals he scored are still are not really due to that instinctive movements which those kind of players had IMO. I could be completely wrong here but most of his goals also seem to be through "instinctive shots" rather than "instinctive movements" and he always seemed to have time on the ball which I am not sure he will get in EPL( I am not saying he won`t work btw)
My point was that it is quite easy to make Sesko occupy the box in specific scenarios. I don`t see Sesko becoming a classic "Fox in the Box" kind of striker soon. My hope from Sesko is kind of becoming like Kane who also wasn`t really a classic fox in the box but still scored a lot of goals.
What he does seem to have instincts for is straight line sprints into the box which could be very useful in our system.

 

[A_G]

Genuinely don’t know if there’s anyone in the game with a hit rate like @OnlyOneTrophy

Should enjoy him while he’s posting here for free. Never your girl, just your turn vibes.

There will never be another.

 

[blrgooner]

Agree mostly. But I’d say that like Havertz and Merino currently, and because of our field tilt, it’s more likely he will on’t face the goal a lot when getting the ball. Rather the opposite. It’s not usual for Havertz to be the one breaking the press and winning the ball so he can move towards goal. It’s much more likely we win it on the wings or in midfield further down and then our cf becomes a link target with their back against goal.

Yeah true. But Merino for example averaged around 2.2 shots per 90 though he mostly has attacking midfielder instincts which was double his stats in Real( Obviousl because he was playing as a striker) .S ame with Kai who had around 2.5 Shots per game for us last year which is pretty much close to where he has been overall in his career,
Sesko seems to be to be much more of a player who stays within the width of the box atleast compared to both Kai and Merino to me. His shots per game of 2.5 last season was his worst and in previous years, he had 4.13, 3.51 and 2.76 respectively. So given his past, I think we could expect that in a team which overall spends a lot more time in attack than Leipzig, we could expect these stats to improve.

 

[OnlyOne]

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There will never be another.

I didn’t post this did I?

 

[Trilly]

I actually really wanted Isak here after that 17 goal session when we were linked... Classy player, even then.

For context on your point above though. Šeško scored 14 goals in 1500 minutes of football with Leipzig... Isak got 17 in nearly 2400 minutes in that season. That's Incredible and he hasn't dropped off that much this season given that Openda's numbers have plummeted as well.

Ceiling wise, Šeško has been giving those little clues that he could explode. He just looks so raw at the moment... He's a gamble and stylistically a bit dull but I don't care about the style side so much.

I’m aware of the goals per min ratio, I think @MikelHadADream had pointed this out to me previously. It did hint at an explosion that maybe hasn’t come because of his teams drop off/tactics the next season. Maybe.

I’m okay with a young player looking raw in his shot selection and decision making to an extent. For me the real concern is when your technique appears to be raw…and I’m not talking about weak foot technique or heading, I’m talking about their core technique like ball striking and first touch/dribbling. That’s not going to improve much (if at all) with age and Sesko be having some trampoline touched at times.

Contrast to Isak who has always looked refined and comfortable on the ball.

 

[Halcyon Daze]

Has @OnlyOneTrophy actually ever been wrong? Hard to think of any.

Might be getting out of your depth in this argument mate.

Martin Terrier and Evan Ferguson are balling.

 

[Heavy Duty Rom]

All of a sudden everyone is an expert. Everyone has clocked that Sesko played deeper to accommodate Openda. Almost as if some Arsenal content creator tactico has released scouting videos or something huh?

Watch games and clips for yourself.

I watched Sesko at Salzburg in the CL vs Liverpool, I watched him in the Euros, I watched bits last season and this, he drops deep, its a part of his game, it always has been.

On a final note, when Only One and The Playmaker are on the same side, you probably want to be on the other side....

 

[rotateta]

IF its true we are flirting with both players, it will look so stupid if we end up losing out on both.
Still think/hope Šeško is the plan, and Gyökeres just some noise to put pressure on Leipzig.

If we miss both then because we weren't willing to go beyond a certain budget, that doesn't make us look stupid, it makes us not look like mugs.

Apparently both are keen on joining, only two or three clubs who could potentially rival us and they consider joining ahead of us.

We will be fine, just hope however leipzig are negotiating without agent klopp in charge. Much rather sesko than gyok

 

[Heavy Duty Rom]

If we miss both then because we weren't willing to go beyond a certain budget, that doesn't make us look stupid, it makes us not look like mugs.

Apparently both are keen on joining, only two or three clubs who could potentially rival us and they consider joining ahead of us.

We will be fine, just hope however leipzig are negotiating without agent klopp in charge. Much rather Šeško than gyok

What it tells me is the club don't see them as difference makers. They aren't willing to pay whatever it takes.

 

[kraphtous]

Can‘t wait for this line up

Raya
Timber Saliba Gabriel Myles
Sesko Zubimendi Rice
Ødegaard
Saka Havertz​

 

[Rex Stone]

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There will never be another.

He’s transcended time and space.

He moves in dimensions now.

 

[Trilly]

All of a sudden everyone is an expert. Everyone has clocked that Šeško played deeper to accommodate Openda. Almost as if some Arsenal content creator tactico has released scouting videos or something huh?

Watch games and clips for yourself.

I watched Šeško at Salzburg in the CL vs Liverpool, I watched him in the Euros, I watched bits last season and this, he drops deep, its a part of his game, it always has been.

On a final note, when Only One and The Playmaker are on the same side, you probably want to be on the other side....

Playmaker trying to argue that missing loads of big chances is a good thing was a new learning experience for me today.

these guys clearly understand football to a level us normal guys just can’t comprehend.

Jokes aside I do think people are jumping on to this ‘plays deep’ thing. Whenever I’ve watched him (admittedly not a lot) I haven’t really seen him play noticeably deeper but even if he was, the main issues I saw were the inability to create separation and his terrible 1v1 finishing.