Benjamin The White 📝

[AbouCuéllar]

Nah it was definitely White

Wasn't he one of the doubts for today?

It wasn't.

Go watch a replay, I tried to do a screenshot but can't insert it for whatever reason, but no, it wasn't White, he's behind Saliba as the ball is played and a half second before that he's farther behind him and Saliba is even deeper than him.

 

[chessygoal]

Okay took another look at them, fk me that was painful.

Second goal looks so bad on Lokonga drifting over to the wing and not getting back then. Maybe Zinny shouldve been covering better as well. Both Saliba and White keep him onside, Saliba was at fault there though, he tried to cut out the ball, if he just runs there and he can cut it out before it gets to Rashford.

Dubz

The third was both Saliba and White again keeping the player onside, although about a foot away from the centre line... Saliba is pushed way over and Xhaka is beside him with Gabriel pushed over and up the wing... Xhaka being further back. The third goal can in no way be on White unless he track 2 runners about 20 feet apart. Its a clusterf*ck in which Id say he was the only one who was doing what he should've been doing.

Dubz

Edit maybe white shouldve forgot about playing offside on third but fk me if that wasnt every players fualt except the front 3

Bad defending all around, it's not faire to blame one guy, they played it really bad as a unit, including Ramsdale, for the 3 goals.
But it's a teachable moment for this back 5, they will hopefully learn from it. Saliba is still a young CB, he got it wrong today but hopefully he'll learn from it.

 

[Macho]

It wasn't.

Go watch a replay, I tried to do a screenshot but can't insert it for whatever reason, but no, it wasn't White, he's behind Saliba as the ball is played and a half second before that he's farther behind him and Saliba is even deeper than him.

He played them onside I don't really know what you want from this. Wasn't all his fault anyways it's irrelevant he's the least of you guy's worries.

 

[AbouCuéllar]

He played them onside I don't really know what you want from this. Wasn't all his fault anyways it's irrelevant he's the least of you guy's worries.

Seems weird to me you're arguing a question of absolute fact, honestly.


Compare against the line on the pitch. We're talking about a matter of fact, and it was Saliba. As stated, if you rewind a half second or a second more as Bruno is making the decision, White is even farther behind Saliba.

 

[Macho]

Seems weird to me you're arguing a question of absolute fact, honestly.


Compare against the line on the pitch. We're talking about a matter of fact, and it was Saliba. As stated, if you rewind a half second or a second more as Bruno is making the decision, White is even farther behind Saliba.

It was all Saliba's fault and White did nothing wrong then? what do you want from me? I don't understand.

 

[AbouCuéllar]

It was all Saliba's fault and White did nothing wrong then? what do you want from me? I don't understand.

Just not misrepresent facts. You stated twice that White was the one keeping him on. It's not true. That goal has two or three potential issues-- Sambi, Zinchenko, Saliba. White doesn't come into the discussion there. On the third yeah. That's all.

 

[Macho]

Just not misrepresent facts. You stated twice that White was the one keeping him on. It's not true. That goal has two or three potential issues-- Sambi, Zinchenko, Saliba. White doesn't come into the discussion there. On the third yeah. That's all.

He clearly did though

I also said it’s not all his fault, but whatever helps you deal.

 

[AbouCuéllar]

Nah it was definitely White

Wasn't he one of the doubts for today?

Seems weird to me you're arguing a question of absolute fact, honestly.


Compare against the line on the pitch. We're talking about a matter of fact, and it was Saliba. As stated, if you rewind a half second or a second more as Bruno is making the decision, White is even farther behind Saliba.

He clearly did though

I also said it’s not all his fault, but whatever helps you deal.

You're a strange one, mate.

 

[Macho]

You're a strange one, mate.

Look man,



If White is level with Saliba, the 3rd goal doesn't happen and as for the 2nd Monstar Gunnar said it himself:

Both Saliba and White keep him onside,

Dubz

Hence my sarcasm "it's Saliba's fault". It was everybodies fault and White played them onside atleast twice, not on his own for the second but it's not even important as loads of things led to it.

I am not the strange one here.

 

[Batman]

He's playing out of position and doing the best he can. I don't think it's fair to blame him. Arteta is asking players to do things they are not best suited to. 3 or 4 counters yesterday fizzled out because Xhaka's feet just aren't fast enough to receive the ball in transition and keep it moving the way a Partey, Ode and Zinchenkno can. That's on Arteta for putting him in positions for his weaknesses to be an issue, same with Ben White. I have zero fault with the effort of any of our players so far this season. They've all been brilliant in that respect, some of the manager's demands have just been unrealistic and unhelpful.

 

[DJ_Markstar]

Did he? It looked Saliba did for both to me.

Just watched it back the second goal was Saliba as the deepest and White for the third. On the second goal White actually gets back in time and it unfortunately deflects over Ramsdale's foot, nothing either could do really.

Honestly tho this isn't the fault of individual defenders imo.

 

[BergMan]

I don’t get why White’s getting criticised here I thought he did well. Did Sancho do anything in the game? I didn’t notice he was playing.

 

[grange]

Ben White ranked 9th so far

 

[Entropics]

Wonder if the progressive passing stats was always topped by defenders. Might explain the decline of quality in the sport in recent times.

 

[grange]

Wonder if the progressive passing stats was always topped by defenders. Might explain the decline of quality in the sport in recent times.

Not sure but here is his list with GKs and defenders removed

 

[Macho]

Wonder if the progressive passing stats was always topped by defenders.

Well, yeah they kinda have no choice means absolutely f*ck all really

I remember Holding looking decent in this department. That's not to say White hasn't been playing well until United. Him, Dalot and Andersen have impressed me.

 

[OnlyOne]

Easily our most consistent player since he joined. Been brilliant this season playing out of position as well.

 

[Deleted member 102404]

Seems weird to me you're arguing a question of absolute fact, honestly.


Compare against the line on the pitch. We're talking about a matter of fact, and it was Saliba. As stated, if you rewind a half second or a second more as Bruno is making the decision, White is even farther behind Saliba.

Great post. I thought that too but didn’t have a screenshot. He almost got there too to prevent a goal. The defensive culprits on the day were Gabriel, Saliba and Zinchenko. White is not as liked for some reason so he’s the target.
He was excellent on the day as he has been all season.

The main problem with that goal was not even the midfield. Saliba turned like an oil tanker. As was pointed out by Keown he actually turned one way, then the other instead of sprinting back. Made it really easy for Rashford.
This is a decision making issue that happens with inexperienced players. Needs to learn.

 

[Yousif Arsenal]

People don't give him enough credit on how he preforming as RB. He basically putting 7/10 performance since season started.

Really great to see found the solution because with White Gabriel and Saliba i was sure one of them getting benched

 

[drippin]

People don't give him enough credit on how he preforming as RB. He basically putting 7/10 performance since season started.

Really great to see found the solution because with White Gabriel and Saliba i was sure one of them getting benched

You should have listened to me when people were laughing when I said that this was planned, because Tomiyasu and White can both be great inverted RB's, to have a path for Saliba after the Marseille loan.

One of the reasons why White was worth 50 million pounds.